How much leeway are parents supposed to have when it comes to raising their kids? I have only seen this subject debated when it comes to individual issues. Religion, medical procedures, home schooling, etc. But in the US at least, it seems that the general question is rarely talked about. However Biden just did.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/parent...ne-elses-child

Thus, it will be harder to avoid the issue.

Presently the situation seems to be that the government will sometimes not allow parents to subject them to, or disallow, stuff that the parents could choose or disallow for themselves. In other words, things legal for the parents may not be legal for their children. Turning down a transfusion for instance. But the parent's wishes have to be quite bad for that to kick in.. They are allowed to make moderately bad decisions for their children. For instance indoctrinating them into Scientology.

So where should the line be drawn?

I am still a little baffled at what he means?

That adults have some level of responsibility towards children not their own in society.

I always feel that way after reading DS.

This. It's a clumsier way of saying "no child left behind". Not sure how that got twisted to mean the government is imposing its will on parental rights.

To learn the true intent of the expression we'd have to ask the teacher who first said it, since Biden attributed the comment to her. The teacher's name is Rebekah Peterson. I found this recent article about her:

Peterson, the teacher of the year, spoke of how she works to lift up her students and how she hopes the profession can bring people together. At Tulsa's Union High School, she runs the blog “One Good Thing,” where she posts something good from her classroom every day, hoping to inspire her students to reflect on joy.

“In the end, maybe we’re all — all of us — just walking each other home,” she said in a speech that referenced her Swedish and Iranian heritage. She became a U.S. citizen when she was 20 and said her immigrant view helps her see the beauty in the nation.

Source: https://www.kten.com/story/48778772/...r-of-the-year#

Clearly she wants the government to push parents to the ground so she and her fellow left-wing indoctrinators can take over our childrens' lives. /s

Its a great line that Biden probably himself couldn't explain.

Lets not forget whom caved to the teachers unions during Covid

As well Biden doesn't seem to care about his sons child with a stripper or the kids in the inner city or the 85,000 migrant kids that are lost that crossed the border

How much freedom should kids have with their own bodies?

Please lets not start another Trans Thread

No Child Left Behind. It Takes A Village. All the same stuff. I think we can all agree that society has a responsibility to have conditions that lead children to become productive citizens. But, as always, the devil is in the details.

I think he's trying to say we are all somehow responsible for Hunter.

If we see someone suffering needlessly, we have a duty of care. Conversely, just because someone is your own child does not give you the right to mistreat them. My life could have turned out a lot better if someone had the courage to step in and prevent or at least report some of the stuff my parents did. So if I see something egregious, I will find a way to do something, and so should we all.

Yes, this. Heard another good one recently. 'The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.'

There should be no such thing as "parents' rights". Most parents are idiots, and a very large percentage don't act like they give a rat's ass about their children.

There is no reason anyone should be allowed to have control over another person for 18 years just because they convinced another person to f--- them and were too stupid to use birth control.

Biden is just making an utterly banal phrase that in society we all have some responsibility to children, which is of course true. You guys have vivid imaginations.

This reminded me of something I saw in my e-mail this morning from the local Nextdoor.




Until you start removing kids from the toxic home environments, this isn't a problem that can be solved by chance encounters with responsible adults in a drug store.

Biden's remarks were in the context of teachers taking responsibility, and that's all well and good, but the education system is failing both teachers and the students right now. Teachers know who a lot of these at-risk kids are, but not only are we taking no action, we're allowing a few poisonous apples to spoil the entire bushel by that inaction.

DS seems to be targeting situations like where parents will opt out of life-saving surgery and instead try to pray away the Leukemia or whatever, but those instances don't even register on the scale of dysfunction in society.

if biden cared he would give all parents enough money to properly take care of their kids. There's no excuse for the federal govt not to support american children in every way that they can. this includes free food, clothing, school supplies, therapy, health care, transportation costs. Does biden do that? no, so he doesnt care

That's all well and good, but a fair number of failing kids in failing school districts in the USA do get all of that for free, and yet here we are.

- Free food via EBT and school meal programs (Edited 'lunch' to 'meal' since breakfast and dinners are offered in various districts)
- Free housing via section 8
- School-supplied uniforms
- School-supplied learning materials and consumables
- Free healthcare, which includes mental health coverage
- Free bus access

It's almost as if this isn't just a money problem.

Step 1: block all attempts to help poor people
Step 2: blame dems for not helping poor people

The republican playbook, ladies and gentlemen

Ins0 mad about kids getting free meals is a classic bit.

Kids can get EBT?

Kids can get section 8?

Kids don’t want those uniforms, and what are they supposed to wear outside of school?

Never seen a school give kids consumables, always been the teacher or parents.

Which kids have free healthcare and dental and a therapist?

Free bus? I think the govt should pay for Ubers that take kids to school and or the library and extracurricular activities. Plus that bus isn’t paid for by the feds.


Do you actually want to help kids?

What was the point of your post btw

It sounds like I might have my first advocate for the Inso0 Publicly-Sponsored Boarding School Initiative.

Welcome aboard, soldier.

I believe in freedom, not indoctrination camps.

Well, freedom is what we have now.

Parents' freedom to neglect their children is how we've arrived to the point where DS felt the need to make a thread.

How do you propose to make sure 6 year old little Susie has access to all of these freebies if not through her parent(s)?

Social workers. Every child gets one and they are their advocate. You never had a social worker check up on you at school cause your parents were abusing you?

So, the system we already have in place, but sprinkle in some magical fairy dust to make it more effective. Got it.

I didn't realize you were an unserious person. My bad.

So extra money is magic fairy dust?