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Trump will nominate RBG's replacement. No matter what happens in the upcoming election. Anyone thinking otherwise has not been paying enough attention.

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09-18-2020 , 09:21 PM

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MrWookie

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

This is quite the quagmire. Both sides are going to look like hypocrites.

Oh, please, what is the Dem hypocrisy on this issue?

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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT

Don’t think he has 51 votes tho. Murk and Mitt are hard NOs.

He has Pence.

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09-18-2020 , 09:30 PM

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Oh, please, what is the Dem hypocrisy on this issue?

Presumably something like "Dems were mad when the GOP obstructed Garland but now they're going to obstruct Trump's nominee". That sounds like some winning IHIV-level logic.

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09-18-2020 , 09:37 PM

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What a gut punch.

McConnell’s going to turbo confirm some absolute hack and Dems will court pack if they sweep. ****’s going to get ugly.

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09-18-2020 , 09:43 PM

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Ted Cruz in 2016: "We intend to exercise the constitutional power granted the Senate under Article II, Section 2 to ensure the American people are not deprived of the opportunity to engage in a full and robust debate over the type of jurist they wish to decide some of the most critical issues of our time. Not since 1932 has the Senate confirmed in a presidential election year a Supreme Court nominee to a vacancy arising in that year."

Ted Cruz in 2020: "**** you"

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09-18-2020 , 09:43 PM

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Lol Americans “elected” a Republican senate majority in 2018 because republicans had it locked up before the election started based on which seats were up.

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09-18-2020 , 09:45 PM

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I'm not at all convinced that it'll be possible to shove a nominee through even if the individual Senators are willing.

The threat of violence against back bench Repbulicans will be immediate and real. I was just banned for 1000 years from the echo chamber for telling them to calm down and sleep on it. If you don't think there's some Antifa group out there right now plotting ways of intimidating Senators, you just haven't been paying attention.

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09-18-2020 , 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EADGBE

What a gut punch.

McConnell’s going to turbo confirm some absolute hack and Dems will court pack if they sweep. ****’s going to get ugly.

lol at dems court packing

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09-18-2020 , 10:05 PM

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you got banned from unstuck therefore you think antifa is going to assassinate Senators. do you realize how crazy you sound?

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09-18-2020 , 10:13 PM

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LOL intimidating senators. There are probably hundreds of people sending Collins and Murkowski nasty letters and calls every single day for the past 3 years and it’s done jack and ****.

Angry mobs can yell and spit at Rand Paul all day. The only pressure is losing their seat.

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09-18-2020 , 10:15 PM

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Someone suggested something similar, before Goofy deleted the post and then said, "yeah, I'm going to go ahead and delete this before you get yourself on a watch list."

It's not much of a leap between innocent shopkeep and evil republican senator. How many of the former have had all sorts of violence inflicted upon them and their property in the past couple months?

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09-18-2020 , 10:25 PM

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I love the naivity of people who actually think that the GOP won't have voted a new judge through in a week or two.

The debate isn't about whether the GOP has principles. The debate is about whether 51 Republican senators think it is in their personal political interest to ram someone through before the election. That's a tougher question to answer.

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09-18-2020 , 10:58 PM

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Even if McConnell doesn't have the votes, he might think it is good politics to force Democrats to ding a nominee just before the election.

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09-18-2020 , 11:10 PM

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Republicans blocked Obama's nominee but are now eager to confirm their own nominee before the election. Does anyone still question the rotten souls of Republicans?

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09-19-2020 , 12:13 AM

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Why'd the martyrdom post get deleted?

This is going to be an interesting 45 days.

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09-19-2020 , 12:42 AM

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Republicans blocked Obama's nominee but are now eager to confirm their own nominee before the election. Does anyone still question the rotten souls of Republicans?

McConnell was in charge in 2016. Now Trump is calling the shots and he prefers the supreme court justices who aren't dead.

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09-19-2020 , 12:54 AM

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See almost no chance of a vote pre-election - but lame duck gets interesting.

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09-19-2020 , 01:25 AM

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Its pretty shameful that so many important issues will wind up being determined based on the results of random, technical, trivial happenings. Next time, make sure that founding fathers take and do well on the SAT.

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09-19-2020 , 01:44 AM

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It sucks for the left, but you can't have a short bench this November.

@David Sklansky This was not "random". Ginsburg knew she was up against her age going into a POTUS election, she decided to stay.

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09-19-2020 , 01:46 AM

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I don’t think it’s tough at all, unless DJT makes a monumentally stupid choice beyond his latest list, like maybe Roy Moore. We’re going to blink and have another Trump Justice on the bench. The republicans that don’t like the candidate are voting yes too.

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09-19-2020 , 01:49 AM

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I think it’s better for Trump that the seat is open. Don’t show up on election day and Biden will appoint Abortion Q. Dragqueen to the S.C.!!

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See almost no chance of a vote pre-election - but lame duck gets interesting.

I think Trump will nominate somebody before the election and the Senate vetting process will begin.

However, I think an actual vote will occur after the election.

Most analysts seem to think Trump was smart to release a Supreme Court list in 2016. It helped him get the socially conservative voters to turn out.

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09-19-2020 , 02:08 AM

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There's an interesting wrinkle in the Arizona Senate race between Martha McSally (R) and Mark Kelly (D).

McSally was selected to replace John McCain after his death. This election is being held to complete the reaminaing ~2 years of that term. So, if Kelly wins, he could join the Senate as early as November 30 according to the New York Times.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1307162528204681216

McSally calls on U.S. Senate to vote on a Trump Supreme Court nominee

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09-19-2020 , 02:20 AM

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This is on Harry Reid who changed the rules in 2013 and RBG for not stepping down earlier. I think she wanted Hillary to name her replacement.

Cocaine Mitch said it best "And you may regret it sooner than you think".

It's not ideal but as long as they follow the rules, they should nominate and confirm someone before the election. Eight SCJ is a recipe for disaster.