https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/co...tm_name=iossmf

just a few bad apples. thin blue line. blue lives matter. heroes work here.

This line of hey there are some black people who 'realize' the libs just 'put us right back on the plantation' is pretty much just a bunch of silliness. It kind of operates from the assumption that we created welfare benefits+programs and then just started handing it out to black people willy nilly like candy. And that's not close to reality. Why are the white people using the programs not characterized in slavery imagery? That it gets served up in those terms should be your first red flag Over the years--and especially back in the day even accessing the benefits/programs was mired with racism--from all directions. The actual truth is white America(again big picture/historically) very much wants the programs--they just don't want black people to have access to them too--so in a classic cut-your-nose-to-spite-your-face move 'we've' opted for fighting against the idea altogether because people would rather suffer than see black people get anything--and especially when 'we' have to pay for it.

Even the examples of 'abuse' of the system focus almost entirely on black people/minorities. I got a little news for ya--there are Tons of white people(and not even just strictly poor people) gaming the system but you'll -rarely- hear about that in all the noise

This notion that the Rs really want what's best for black people and all this welfare mumbo jumbo is ruining their lives is silly. On the ground--almost to a man the story in conservative suburbia/rural areas is actually--why do I have to pay taxes to support them?? Or some variant along those lines.

Hey I don't make the news I simply assess & report it. I've no emotional attachment here so tend to study both liberal & conservative views and considering pretty much everything seems race related in America I take on board arguments by both sides wrt such issues and this is an issue that black conservatives raise, for better or worse so again I don'rt make the news.

I never said anything about black people abusing the system I said black conservatives resent the welfare system for the stated reasons, not due to abuse. I mentioned abuse strictly regarding a minority of the low income status populace (which would be mainly white) from my own country. I view social welfare payments in a completely different manner than they might be viewed in America and you evidently haven't read my posts.

No it isn't news to me at all wrt white people bucking the system and again you evidently haven't read my posts as I fully stated this already.

It’s interesting that, as an unemotional freethinker, you’ve arrived at bog-standard AM radio views toward welfare.

It's interesting that you haven't read my posts either. I'm not emotional re America,why would I be? Doesn't effect me. Ergo I view both sides arguments based on flaws/merits and that includes the arguments of black liberals/conservatives seeing as everything's apparently racial so I'm interested in hearing the views of both camps. Again I don't make the news bro.

Imagine the arrogance to act like this thread has anything to do with Irish police.

Irish police on the street are by and large more community approach oriented, specialist units aside so it's a different setup and were not going through the same turmoil America currently is. Although I linked a detective killed in the line of duty outa personal respect, I really don't think the Irish police re relevant wrt this thread overall.

Re other issues it's not arrogance to view the arguments of both liberal and conservative Americans or to both sides of the liberal./conservative black American community during time of nationwide racial issues protests, as an outside observer. It's simply examining the respective positions of all concerned with an open mind. It's easier for me as a non American as I don't have the same vested interests as Americans who are understandably much more involved and invested.

But because it's happening in in their country then their opinions are more valid than non Americans. I want to study all American views based on merits and flaws.
By doing so one can gain a better understanding of the issues and the nuances and contexts which make such issues get to where they are now.

I don't think that's arrogance, it's simply assessing respective positions to get an overall picture.

Why would the police union want to destroy police misconduct records? You'd think if the 99% good cops wanted to get the 1% bad cops out, they'd want to easily identify the bad cops.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/...nduct-records/

This case centered on the police contract, which states most officer complaints would be destroyed after five years. But the city was not doing that, and argued the courts required that the records be kept.

“I believe it is a bad decision that not only has disastrous effect on not only our union but also every other union in this state specifically,” said John Catanzara, Jr., Chicago FOP President.

Catanzara reacted to the court’s decision Thursday, which backs the city of Chicago in determining that the city is not required to destroy misconduct records of police officers, despite a clause in the union contract that states most of those files are to be destroyed after five years.

“This part of the contract was in place for the better part of 4 decades, now they’re making a decision on current environment. Current public policy. That’s not the way contractual rights are supposed to work. They’re basically bending to the will of current sentiment,” Catanzara said.