is this from the law enforcement training and law school of tv legal dramas?

Ya you think if there is a cop reading this forum, they should just investigate you and see if you committed a crime at any point?

Hm slighted seems like a bad guy.... i heard he talked to a chinese person the other day.. We dont like china... lets read all of his private phone calls and share them with the other law enforcement agencies we know... maybe we can trap him lying about what he said on the call.. maybe slighted forgot what he said months ago on a random phone call

1) there is something called probable cause which is a standard which investigations are started
and 2) maybe people like flynn shouldn't be calling russian delegations that he personally knew or should have known would be tapped as he was in the intelligence field

if i had a phone call with an agent of a foreign government i would FULLY expect it to be recorded somewhere. in fact i would go so far as to say if you are a government official having a secret phone call with an agent of a foreign government and you dont think it would be recorded somewhere you aren't smart enough to be in your current position and you should be removed immediately.

General Flynn was the National Security Advisor to Trump. It was a completely standard phone call for him to have. That isn't probable cause for anything.

The people running this investigation say they had "0 evidence" of collusion. They don't say, we have evidence of collusion because General Flynn talked to an ambassador to Russia, because it was a standard phone call for him to have. No one even disputes that. Except for people who were lied to by MSNBC 3 years ago and don't want to realize the truth even now with General Flynn exonerated and sworn testimony being released of the people running the investigation, TELLING YOU< they lied to you on tv, when they had evidence.

We want more of the guys who expelled our spies and shut down their compounds here and definitely not the new guy who's letting our soldiers dance around in their vacated military bases. It' so obvious Also, in case you were wondering Hillary has a mysterious disease and eats live babies

its crazy how the america first crowd and the "muh freedoms!!" crowd who were totally cool with the surveillance state a few years ago are now OUTRAGED that the US government is keeping tabs on FOREIGN AGENTS that are in the United States.

You should be upset at Schiff, Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Comey. All the people who went on TV and lied to you, saying they had some evidence but it was classified, while the truth is when they swear under possible perjury penalties that there was "0 evidence" of collusion.

I was never okay with the surveillance state. Also this is libel saying General Flynn is a foreign agent. It is a flat out lie. 0 Evidence of it.

scrapping the second part because it's a bunch of opinion, its also a completely standard call to be recorded.

and feel free to correct me if im wrong, but Flynn met with putin in 2015 and the phone call was in december of 2016 before he was officially anything for the US government.

1 it's highly unlikely you understand what libel is in actual legal terms with regards to public figures

2. flynn called a foreign agent, Kislyak. which is what started this whole thing

So Flynn is just a dumbass?

i mean he is a guy who had a paid relationship with Russia Today, who then got recorded calling a russian agent as the future national security advisor on the exact same day the US announced sanctions against Russia. then denied the call happened, then the trump administration denied the call happened, then "forgot" what was said on the call, then lied to both the FBI and Congress in easily verifiable ways, then pleaded guilty TWICE to a crime he now says didnt happen.

if the shoe fits.

luckbox, you're a tinfoiler.

if you publicly took money from a foreign country would you be surprised that the US took an interest in you and looked into your activities?

same hypothetical, would you be surprised that a conversation you had with a foreign agent of the same government you had previously taken money from ended up being recorded?

I wouldn't be. I just also assume that Flynn knew all of that and isn't a dumbass--and that's where the tinfoil comes in.
(Also truthfully the tinfoilers now are those who need special headgear to leave their house and who look like scared deer at the convenience store).

Yep, when a high profile political player admits to a crime in front of a Russian heavy hitter like Krislyak, then he is indeed an idiot.

Russia (and the former CCCP) has relied on blackmail for intelligence operations for many, many decades.

It works because there is no shortage of idiots, even in high profile positions.

Could you post a link to the transcript of this call so we can see what the verifiable lies were? Thanks.

Is Flynn, Pence and Trump's words not enough in all saying (or admitting) he lied?

Could you post a link to an account of TRUMP and/or Pence stating that Flynn lied to FBI agents? Thanks.

Besides Flynn, there's also donnie Is there anyone alive who doesn't think 80s donnie would not have bumbled his way into getting jack-potted before he even realized what happened? He was a prime target. Having a thing for eastern euro chicks probably doesn't hurt.

he pleaded guilty to it twice. the term verifiable doesn't mean it has to be absolutely verifiable to you specifically.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

Flynn and his attorney disagree with you.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters...obbying-038734

Shots fired.

Obama eviscerated.

https://sidneypowell.com/media/open-...-barack-obama/

That is a whole lot of high priced whataboutism that contains no material facts.

Impressive stuff.

Its all bullshit. The justice system is so politicised its crazy and does no one any favours.

The idea that this is the "biggest scandal in US history" is just more partisan madness. You have:

- Hillary announcement
- Comey firing
- Russia investigation
- Flynn
- Biden

Its so partisan and the media plays up to it. Out of all of this, is it not most obvious that there are severe problems with your justice system and power relations at the top of the political ladder?