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05-08-2020 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
pretty wild stuff



https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...-russia-probe/
When we are talking rarely charged my understanding is that the last indictment was pre civil war and that there has never been a conviction.

A question for all the TRUMP haters stating he confessed so the fix is in obviously. How much money do you think you would need to fight a charge leveled by a special council like Mueller’s special council?
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05-08-2020 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Mr. Jones, did you murder your wife?

No, absolutely not!

But we have a video of you committing the crime. HD too.

This is entrapment!!
Mr Jones, we have no evidence to suspect you of any crime but did you murder your wife?

I can't remember!

Ok. That means you're lying. And if you don't plead guilty to lying we are going to go after your son and find something to frame him for as well.
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05-08-2020 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
When we are talking rarely charged my understanding is that the last indictment was pre civil war and that there has never been a conviction.

A question for all the TRUMP haters stating he confessed so the fix is in obviously. How much money do you think you would need to fight a charge leveled by a special council like Mueller’s special council?
Somebody should have told Flynn. He seemed to think it was a crime. (Hence the lying).
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05-08-2020 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
A question for all the TRUMP haters stating he confessed so the fix is in obviously. How much money do you think you would need to fight a charge leveled by a special council like Mueller’s special council?
You would extend this to how coercive and devastating the usa justice system is for the poorer and more vulnerable people?
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05-09-2020 , 03:40 AM
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05-09-2020 , 08:52 AM
Obama was pulling the strings to all of this, its obvious.

All you leftist Russian fanboy idiots are a disgrace to our great country
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05-09-2020 , 09:22 AM
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05-09-2020 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rooooktaker
Obama was pulling the strings to all of this, its obvious.



All you leftist Russian fanboy idiots are a disgrace to our great country
Probably should put Obama on trial
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05-09-2020 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
They did a bad job then. He didn't admit to perjury.
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05-09-2020 , 10:51 AM
Also a perjury trap means that they were coerced/tricked into lying about something completely unrelated to the stated reason for the interview/investigation. I'm going to go ahead and say that 99.9% of judges would consider questions about a discussion Flynn had with a Russian official specifically regarding sanctions imposed on Russia for interference in the election is materially relevant to an investigation into Russian interference in the election.

Nothing I have seen in the new releases regarding Flynn (basically all of the stuff in the Catherine Herridge tweets) has been even remotely close to entrapment or a perjury trap.
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05-09-2020 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Willd
Also a perjury trap means that they were coerced/tricked into lying about something completely unrelated to the stated reason for the interview/investigation. I'm going to go ahead and say that 99.9% of judges would consider questions about a discussion Flynn had with a Russian official specifically regarding sanctions imposed on Russia for interference in the election is materially relevant to an investigation into Russian interference in the election.

Nothing I have seen in the new releases regarding Flynn (basically all of the stuff in the Catherine Herridge tweets) has been even remotely close to entrapment or a perjury trap.


They knew there was no evidence of Russia Collusion. The whole thing was a "trap". It was more than a hoax. It was the Obama administration trying to take down an incoming president and his people.

Obama should be put on trial. It looks like he gave the green light to spy on an incoming president and his men.
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05-09-2020 , 11:39 AM
I very deliberately talked about the Russian interference and not collusion. The fact that Russia deliberately interfered is beyond any semblance of doubt and the specific call that Flynn lied about was recorded because US intelligence agencies were already monitoring the Russian ambassador, not because of any monitoring of the Trump transition team. There is no reasonable defence that Flynn lying about the call would not be a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001.

On the wider situation I think there is a lot more being made of the released transcripts than is justified but I have only had a chance to look at a small portion of it so far. I would be surprised if there was much substance to most of the claims but unlike the Flynn case, which I am very confident about, I haven't looked into things enough to make any specific arguments yet.
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05-09-2020 , 12:00 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/barr-s...easy-decision/

KerriKupecDOJ
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"You know, one thing people will see when they look at the documents is how Director Comey purposely went around the Justice Department and ignored [then] Deputy Attorney General Yates." - AG Barr to @CBS_Herridge
on the Flynn case

Russia interfered, sure. There was no collusion though and the people investigating flynn and his people knew that. The only reason they kept the investigation open was to try to trap the people, or use it to spy on them and get information.
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05-09-2020 , 12:02 PM
I don't think you guys get it. It doesn't matter if Flynn pleaded guilty if the investigation wasn't started on proper grounds. The investigation was started for political reasons. Third world country type stuff. Barr did the right thing and I hope it is the first act of many. Clapper, Brennan, Comey etc need to face trial.
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05-09-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rooooktaker
Obama was pulling the strings to all of this, its obvious.

All you leftist Russian fanboy idiots are a disgrace to our great country
oops Somebody missed a memo. Blood and Soil. Russia is our friend! lol
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05-09-2020 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
I don't think you guys get it. It doesn't matter if Flynn pleaded guilty if the investigation wasn't started on proper grounds. The investigation was started for political reasons. Third world country type stuff. Barr did the right thing and I hope it is the first act of many. Clapper, Brennan, Comey etc need to face trial.
i dont think you get how law works.

also it's significantly easier to just run roughshod over the legal system while dismissing things that should be crimes in a normal society than it is to try and bring your political rivals to trial over nonsense charges and made up conspiracies. so those Barr Qanon fantasies are probably gonna have to stay in your daydreams.
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05-09-2020 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
I don't think you guys get it. It doesn't matter if Flynn pleaded guilty if the investigation wasn't started on proper grounds. The investigation was started for political reasons. Third world country type stuff. Barr did the right thing and I hope it is the first act of many. Clapper, Brennan, Comey etc need to face trial.
We're talking about the same Barr who helped Bush clean up the Iran-Contra mess? I'm sure his intentions are pure this time around
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05-10-2020 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
i dont think you get how law works.

also it's significantly easier to just run roughshod over the legal system while dismissing things that should be crimes in a normal society than it is to try and bring your political rivals to trial over nonsense charges and made up conspiracies. so those Barr Qanon fantasies are probably gonna have to stay in your daydreams.
The ignorance is quite strong with this leftist
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05-10-2020 , 01:00 PM
Shhhhhh....

"I smell morons"
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05-12-2020 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Mr. Jones, did you murder your wife?

No, absolutely not!

But we have a video of you committing the crime. HD too.

This is entrapment!!

You do realize Flynn committed no crimes right? So your "example" was disgustingly inaccurate. Let me fix it for you.

Mr. Jones, we really appreciate your service to your country for the last 30 years, now where did you go for lunch with your wife on December 19th, which was 26 days ago?

Uh, I believe I took her to Earl's that night. I think.

Take him away, boys
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05-12-2020 , 01:10 AM
Max Cut et all, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. You are ok with sending fbi agents to interview a U.S. general with no criminal record and over 30 years of service to his country when their plans are to try to get him to lie so he winds up fired or in jail. And the subject they plan on getting him to lie about isn't even anything that's illegal lol.

In this world that you want to live in fbi agents wouldn't ever be allowed near the white house, the senate, or anywhere else public figures work/reside. The first thing any politician would say to any fbi agent they see is "get the **** away from me and if you have any questions call my ****ing lawyer".
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05-12-2020 , 01:16 AM
They ****ing asked his permission. He said sure. Then he lied to them. He's a ****ing General and knows what that means. Where's your sense of Patriotism watching that criminal Trump direct his ****ing corrupt AG to just drop the charges so he wouldn't have to take heat for a pardon? The shame is on you and the other anti-Americans cheering this **** on.

Where you clutching your flag pearls when that idiot Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about an affair?
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05-12-2020 , 02:33 AM
He said sure only after Andrew McCabe told him that they had some routine questions and that if he wanted white house council present then it would make everything a big hassle and so to leave the lawyers out of it. I think that little detail is important.
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05-12-2020 , 09:10 AM
How dare they not inform him they would be asking about his crimes. After all, he's a 30-year U.S. General working in the White House and deserves much more justice than normal Americans.
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05-12-2020 , 09:43 AM
Flynn pled guilty and was fired by Trump
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