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Originally Posted by Cuepee
On a completely other front washoe, your last point triggered for me one of my pet peeves.
If you watch old movies you often see people trying to climb out the roof of a compromised non working elevator in an attempt to save their own lives.
A few years back elevator companies decided that 'escape hatch' was not worth the expense to be built in to every elevator for the few times it was ever needed.
They rationalized that as 'more people were likely to get hurt trying to get out, then stay put' which I am sure has some truth but the cost savings were significant for them.
I hate that though. Now if you are stuck in an elevator you are at the mercy of someone coming to save you. You can do nothing to save yourself. You are at their complete mercy sealed in that box.
So for instance even if you were near the ground floor but the elevator doors would not open in 9/11 and they could not spend the time or focus to try and get you out of the elevator as there was easier people to evacuate, you would be stuck there until the towers collapsed on you.
As a person with mild claustrophobia, that is a big fear for me. Getting on an elevator is fine. Being stuck on one with no control, not so much.
The escape hatch was one of the best inventions, you could free yourself, at least you had some sort of way out of this death trap. Without it the whole movie die hard wouldnt have worked. Remember Jon Mclane crawling through the elevator shafts?
FWIW elevators are a pet peeve of mine too. That they got rid of the escape doors an outrage! I just checked my elevator and you are correct there is no excape hatch.
They rationalized it away, the same way they rationalized access to the world trade center's roof among many roofs away. This is an absolute outrage. That Idiocracy costs all people trapped above the 100th floor their lifes. Probably also the 200 people stuck in the elevators. (who died too) Both groups had no way to escape.
Wtf right? They took access to the roof away from those people. Why?
Because dealing with people who want to party on the rooftop is a pain in the ass for them. People jumping (commiting suicide) was also a pain in the butt for them. But does this mean they can just lock access to the roof, when there is fire or other danger? Imo, the clear answer is no.
You are blocking vital emergency routes if you do this. As it was explained you had 4-5 helicopter circeling the roof of the world trade center. People tried to get the roof but had no access. The doors were automatically shut because the system crashed.
At the same time you had 200 people stuck in the elevators, with no way out.
This is like an overprotective parent who is doing more harm than good.
I say open every roof of every building. You will have people party and hang out at the roof, so what? You have to deal with that. Have cameras and better security. But if you can build a 1400ft building you have to have multiple emergency exit options, especially the rooftops- And you cannot lock the doors to the roof, definetely not.
People were rescued from the roof at the world trade center a few years earlier when the bomb attack happened. 12-14 people were lifted off the roof. And after they locked the roof for emergency exits which costed many their lifes. Probably over 1300 people.