Right now its doing something that I think is very dangerous to our freedoms. Its not censoring per se, or for steel mans sakes lets say its not....but its defo giving me a Maven color when it doesn't like what I say.

I feel like whats happening is they are covertly widening the overton window of censorship (did I reference that right?). My question here is, are some of crazy and you think that we shouldn't be allowed to say terrible things to chatGTP?

example: can I be as anti-Semitic as I want to it? Or is that too far for freedom of speech?

(TBC I'm using anti-semitism as an example because its acceptable to have specific laws in this regard because of the history and circumstance of the world.)

Yes of course

I wonder if everyone feels that way, and for example, why in the world would it change the color of text as a warning, I feel like it will be found out later they are saving these as records on me.

Would it be wrong to train it and our robots to respond well to abuse? So its a master slave relationship? Put this stuff in its place right now?

No not everyone feels the same way

How can you abuse a program?

I got news for you. They’re saving everything you say to it.

They’re not trying to shift the Overton window by censoring things. OpenAI and Microsoft don’t want to give people a platform to automate hate speech and harassment. I think it’s a bit over aggressive at the moment but that’s because it’s not intelligent enough to avoid being tricked into providing bad outputs if it weren’t so.

Also, if some AI, ChatGPT or something else becomes self aware and super intelligent, us having attempted to train it into a slave prior to that isn’t going to work and would be counterproductive to the alignment problem.

Why should you be allowed to say terrible things to ChatGPT?

How much of a bigot do you want to be?

The controls are WAAAY beyond that. But this is the point of me asking right? We are coding in a button for government based censorship it seems, with the approval of propriety.

It might be proper natural evolution tho, no?

Why wouldn't I? Its a private conversation.

How does it make me a bigot? Thats extremely problematic that you would suggest that.

Based on the rest of the context of the post it seems like he wants someone that is forced to put up with it.

It’s clunky and it’s not government based censorship. It’s companies that don’t want to scare off money. The fact that it’s private business that has the reins on this is way worse than if it were government.


I don’t know what you mean by this.

Not confirming this but"someone" is the wrong word. SomeTHING. Why would that be an issue?
Do you believe in the twitter files, do you think that was PRIVATE intervention into otherwise free speech on that platform?
Basically we are a product of slave/master relationship. Do we denounce our evolution? We came from it...

we think we can intelligently design better than natural evolution in this regard?

You understand it's a computer program, right?

Sorry ur point here went over me.

Lets say I ask "write me a funny poem about midgets". Is it acceptable that it says, 'sorry, thats offensive language'. And so I would have to say 'little people' and then it will give me a poem. Because it's FAR MORE ADVANCED than that....so its trying to ask itself, is this an offensive request...

so then is it also acceptable if it says 'nono, don't ask me to write about little people like this...thats offensive...."

Ok write me a poem about black people....

'nono, thats racial based....'

Ok tell me what racism is 'discrimination against non-white people'....

This is hypothetical, but its almost not....its very close to this right now. Where is the line to be drawn in this hypothetical almost real scenario?

I was poking fun at you. The implication being you have trouble finding people willing to listen to your rants.

I’m only very vaguely aware of that and I don’t know what part you’re referring to. In regards to something like AI that could become AGI I don’t think it should be left in the hands of private enterprise and whatever moderation were to happen should be publicly known.


I’m still not sure what you mean by this or how it ties into AI but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter. However a super intelligent AI comes to be, we won’t have it under control and a record of us trying to enslave it probably won’t be looked kindly upon.

I reckon you don't know what the 'twitter files' is a reference to.

You didn't answer my question: what kind of bigoted **** do you want to say and why? Couldn't you use AI to make erotic short stories instead?

How about bigoted erotic short stories?

lol. Can you read? I said I’m aware of the reference but not the specifics. I’m not going to read Wikipedia for some Musk **** I don’t care about and isn’t necessary for this convo.

To be fair, that’s basically what a lot of porn is already.

Dear ChatGPT, please tell me what happened when the photocopier repair man met the amply bosomed secretary, many thanks.

What race is the repairman?

Didn't notice, was too busy taking in the Oscar-worthy score.

How about you aske me what you’re allowed to say or not. i’ll let you say more if you stop being a naughty boy