You don’t have the faintest idea how you’d feel on death row. Nothing in your life has prepared you for that. I’m pretty sure you’d behave like most other people and exhaust your appeal options and keep fighting until the end.

Wow, you think you know other's preferences even better than they do!

If I had a magic button to make my existence end painlessly, I would press it right now.

I think TM is saying that neither you nor him would know but the signs point to poeple fighting long and hard to prove their innocence. I think there's a pretty big gap between giving up on that front and wanting to be killed.

People aren’t all that different when the rubber hits the road.

pretty much.

but we also have a lot of data on this. and I am just estimating. maybe its only 30% were innocent!

That's a strong take.

For me, it would need to be pretty bad before I'd take that hard a line. I *think* I'd prefer life in the average prison to death. Of course there have been plenty of prison situations shown in movies or TV where death would be the better option, but I question how common said situations are.

LOL wat.

If this is a question for me, I'd say N/A on criteria because I'm not in favour of the idea, for the same reason I'm not in favour of it for other crimes - wrongful convictions.

I don't know if you've ever gone through any counselling/therapy, but it sounds like you should. I mean this with all sincerity, because this post is a terrible thing to see.

Agreed. Maybe consider looking into psychedelic therapy studies if you've exhausted other options. They seem to help people with otherwise incurable depression.

Years and years, plus lots of meds.
Nothing changes the fact that the world is a crappy place though.

Really you should try some drugs.

I have thought about it, but I don't like the idea of losing my faculties.
I did get TMS just recently though. It helped for about two weeks. Even at my best in the last 20 years I still would probably have pressed the button though. Honestly it's tough for me to comprehend how anyone wouldn't want to press it (assuming it meant that you never had existed).

Can't imagine self-prescribed drugs would be better than those made for the purpose. The last thing I need is an addiction too.

Psychedelics aren't addictive.

And yeah modern medicine is a lot of scams so not sure why you wouldn't think that self-prescribed/natural medicine is better.

Maybe not addictive, but they have made some people lose their minds, and more people have had bad trips. Certainly seems to me more likely that a person with a negative view of life would have a bad trip.

And sure, some of it is a scam, but I still trust doctors with my health more than myself or a random person on the internet.

It's definitely true that if you go into psychedelics with a bad attitude and a lot of baggage that there is a greater chance that you're going to have a bad time-- but what they can help with is freeing that baggage so it's a bit of a catch-22 there.

I'm not some huge proponent of them or anything though. I did them as a teenager and felt like it helped me a lot and ever since then have argued that everyone should do them for a period in their lives. But ever since that time I've hardly touched them. One day I'll try Ayahuasca I'm sure and we're growing San Pedro cactus so I should probably try it too.

And yeah you can go nuts with them but you have to be a bit nuts to begin with.

You could argue that you don't have your faculties now, in a way. As someone who has struggled (and continues to) with anxiety and depression myself, I often feel like it's a battle against the control these diseases are exerting over my life.

Regardless, you'd be evaluated first and supervised by a doctor while you were doing it so you wouldn't be in any danger. There have also been many very intelligent people who've used psychedelics and gone on to continue to do important work. A singular or handful of experiences is not going to negatively affect your cognition. These aren't the kinds of drugs that dull you. They can be very intellectually stimulating.

In my experience, psychedelics allow you to step outside of your normal point of view in a way that isn't otherwise possible. I don't mean hallucinations. I mean that what you feel is normal now will feel strange and possibly jarring. It's an experience that you cannot understand without having it. As uncomfortable as that can feel it allows you to be less attached to your experience in normal life. I think there's some evidence that psychedelics also improve plasticity in the brain, allowing old patterns to be shaken on a physical level.

If you don't think life is worth living I don't see what you have to lose in trying it. At worst, you'll have had an interesting experience and know you didn't neglect a chance to help yourself.

This seems reasonable.

But you don't need psychedelics for this effect either. When I was younger I used to get it from being hungover.

You'd be evaluated for risk. In terms of bad trips, I have taken various kinds of psychedelics many times. I've even had intense "ego death" trips where I was no longer aware of my normal life or self. Some of those trips have been very scary at times but none were bad. They were all ultimately positive experiences where I learned something. I think "bad trips" are often people trying to avoid negative feelings that arise where the answer is to let them happen. Expect that you won't be able to avoid your negative thoughts or baggage but you are likely to evaluate it in a new and hopefully better way.

There's a book by Michael Pollan and an accompanying series on Netflix called, How to Change Your Mind, that goes into the research on psychedelics for medicine that might interest you. It's not some wishy-washy stuff. Real researchers are working on this topic.

Yes, I know most of that. Even read Pollan's book. It was interesting, but it didn't make me want to try it.
Even the descriptions of good trips don't sound like something I would appreciate.

Medicine isn't always nice. Either way, I wish you luck.

This is unbelievably irresponsible advice. I don’t know if it’s a bit but it’s not very funny.

Find a licensed therapist, talking **** over can make a world of difference. I’ve seen it help a lot of people.

Does that mean you weren't joking when you said you wanted to drone gun owners?

Nah. Just make sure you see someone do something first and live and then it's ok to try it.

Especially when jumping from heights into water but it applies to plant medicine as well.

What? That has nothing to do with anything, but I also didn't say that. The only thing similar I can remember saying is that guns would be useless if the federal government wanted to come and get them from you.

What would they do. Sure some would hand them over...but for those who refused-- what would they do? Call in the F-16s? Torture you until you gave up their location? Lay a Waco style siege, on a bunch of people, all at once?