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Just watched a clip produced prob by a non black person, a clip where black people are denigrated and made to fight amongst one another for the enjoyment of the audience and the profit of the companies owners.

And at the end, a bit of racism was thrown in as well.

Congratulations. You posted a video that highlighted the issues I was referring to.

Yup, confirmed troll.

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06-27-2023 , 12:30 PM

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A white personal who just finished 3 years of prison in Alabama. Assumed to be doing slave labor as that’s what the topic is.

I would encourage to you audit a college history class and make the case that white ex-cons should be referred to as "former slaves."

Let me know how that works out for you.

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06-27-2023 , 12:40 PM

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I would encourage to you audit a college history class and make the case that white ex-cons should be referred to as "former slaves."

Let me know how that works out for you.

That’s not what we are discussing so why would I do that.

I’ve already made the case in class that prisoners in America are slaves and the blacks are suffering from genocide. It was fine.

We aren’t talking about white ex cons. We are talking about white prison slaves. They only exist in 5 states legally and we are discussing the topic.

Please don’t try to change the discussion and then attack it. It doesn’t make sense to attack something we aren’t discussing.

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06-27-2023 , 12:41 PM

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Can you really not imagine how a person could make a distinction there?

Of course people can draw all kinds of distinctions. Whether these distinctions are meaningful is another matter.

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06-27-2023 , 12:45 PM

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You do realise this is from "The People vs OJ" and that scene is a reenactment of what happened in real life?

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06-27-2023 , 12:46 PM

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By my standards you're both arguing in bad faith, but him far moreso than you, and it feels like he's doing in a 'I'm right so I don't have to argue in good faith' attitude. He does the entirety of the left a disservice and seems to be engaging with no interest in learning nor actually convincing anyone, just feeling superior at your expense. He is exactly the sort of person who would swing right in 20 years.

How are we both arguing in bad faith? ( mean on this specific issue. I was admittedly taking the piss earlier itt but not maliciously) Huge difference between prison conditions/reform and actual slavery.

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06-27-2023 , 12:47 PM

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You do realise this is from "The People vs OJ" and that scene is a reenactment of what happened in real life?

What does that have to do with that I said?

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06-27-2023 , 12:50 PM

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What does that have to do with that I said?

Cause you responded to it like it was written as some White supremacists fan fiction

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06-27-2023 , 12:52 PM

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We aren’t talking about white ex cons. We are talking about white prison slaves. They only exist in 5 states legally and we are discussing the topic.

Please don’t try to change the discussion and then attack it. It doesn’t make sense to attack something we aren’t discussing.

I don't know what you are talking about, but my hypothetical was specifically talking about a white ex con who did his time in Alabama.

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Let me put it this way. If you were a white person who just finished a three year prison sentence in Alabama, would you feel comfortable referring to yourself as a "former slave"? I highly doubt it, and that's because you recognize in your gut the vast distinctions that you obscure when you use the word "slavery" so broadly.

In any case, my question was directed at Trolly because I think it is quite a bit less likely that he is trolling.

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06-27-2023 , 01:05 PM

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I don't know what you are talking about, but my hypothetical was specifically talking about a white ex con who did his time in Alabama.

In any case, my question was directed at Trolly because I think it is quite a bit less likely that he is trolling.

Trolly isn't trolling?

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06-27-2023 , 01:06 PM

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I agree the language is provocative but not as ridiculous as all that. If someone who was forced into penal labor told me they had been enslaved by the state of Alabama, I wouldn't quibble all that much.

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06-27-2023 , 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Of course people can draw all kinds of distinctions. Whether these distinctions are meaningful is another matter.

I mean prisoners are in prison because they are being punished, right? Isn't that the idea?

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06-27-2023 , 01:18 PM

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I mean prisoners are in prison because they are being punished, right? Isn't that the idea?

Right. You're okay with slave labor being an additional punishment handed down to prisoners. Rest of the world, not so much.

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06-27-2023 , 01:22 PM

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Trolly isn't trolling?

I have no reason to think he is trolling on this topic.

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06-27-2023 , 01:24 PM

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Right. You're okay with slave labor being an additional punishment handed down to prisoners. Rest of the world, not so much.

Who said I was ok with it?

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06-27-2023 , 01:24 PM

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I believe you, but my question was whether you would feel comfortable holding yourself out as a former slave if you had done a three year hitch in a state with penal labor.

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06-27-2023 , 01:28 PM

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Who said I was ok with it?

Come up with a new sctick, bro.

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06-27-2023 , 01:29 PM

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I believe you, but my question was whether you would feel comfortable holding yourself out as a former slave if you had done a three year hitch in a state with penal labor.

No, but I think that has a lot more to do social conventions than any big distinctions between prison labor and slavery.

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06-27-2023 , 01:33 PM

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Come up with a new sctick, bro.

You could try not lying and misrepresenting people at every opportunity. Have you ever considered that?

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06-27-2023 , 01:34 PM

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No, but I think that has a lot more to do social conventions than any big distinctions between prison labor and slavery.

I don't mean to be confrontational, but is "social convention" a polite way of saying that you don't think most descendants of African slaves would view what their relatives endured as comparable to what you endured as a prisoner in Alabama for three years?

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06-27-2023 , 01:42 PM

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That wasn't what I had in mind, but that's for sure a fair point.

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06-27-2023 , 01:43 PM

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You could try not lying and misrepresenting people at every opportunity. Have you ever considered that?

You can clarify your position on prison labor whenever you please. Like everyone else, I'm going to assume you're here to carry water for bog-standard Republican policies like you do on most every other issue.

Whether you really ascribe to these views or you're just trolling to provoke people is unimportant to me.

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06-27-2023 , 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

You can clarify your position on prison labor whenever you please. Like everyone else, I'm going to assume you're here to carry water for have bog-standard Republican views like you do on most every other issue.

I have no idea where I stand on it as it's something I've spent about 10 seconds thinking about.

I am pretty sure that conflating it with chattel slavery like you're doing is absurd.

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06-27-2023 , 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by J.E.C

You do realise this is from "The People vs OJ" and that scene is a reenactment of what happened in real life?

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What does that have to do with that I said?

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Cause you responded to it like it was written as some White supremacists fan fiction

it can be serving and entertaining to white supremacists and still be historically accurate.

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

same

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I have no idea where I stand on it as it's something I've spent about 10 seconds thinking about.

I am pretty sure that conflating it with chattel slavery like you're doing is absurd.

its very very similar is the point I am making. its almost like chattel slavery is the private form of slavery and the prison version is the public version of slavery.

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06-27-2023 , 02:22 PM

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I have no idea where I stand on it as it's something I've spent about 10 seconds thinking about.

I am pretty sure that conflating it with chattel slavery like you're doing is absurd.

You seem to have the order of operations wrong. Maybe think first and then decide if I’m wrong or not?

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