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Voting patterns are also a default setting, for many dems and republicans. But there are quite a few categories of default settings imo. I think Earth age might be very easy for a fairly high percentage of young Earthers to abandon. I brought up the Exodus story because I think that is still widely believed in the US and probably even easier to get people to stop believing because people only believe it because they are familiar with it, not that they've actually thought about it. It basically completely falls apart after just a little scrutiny.

So, at what point is it OK to call someone a certifiable moron for their "default settings"?

11-07-2021 , 05:10 AM

#2553

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Unfortunately, it will probably get the proverbial boot to RGT soon.

Why is it unfortunate?

11-07-2021 , 12:06 PM

#2554

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BingoSchmingo

Do you have a link to a peer reviewed journal which confirms the utter deranged claim that the universe was created by a god?

(I know your answer will be, as usual, worthless garbage, but since you asked the question I asked multiple times, I though it would be funny to see you entangling yourself in contradictions)

Here is an article by Dr. William Lane Craig.

Originally published in a peer-reviewed journal:

Astrophysics and Space Science 269-270 (1999) 723-740

n.b. I have not read the article in its entirety. I am posting this to fulfill the request of a poster (who turned out to be a troll). Hence, I will not be replying to the troll.

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writ...f-the-universe

11-07-2021 , 12:36 PM

#2555

ecriture d'adulte

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d2_e4

So, at what point is it OK to call someone a certifiable moron for their "default settings"?

I'm not sure you need to wait. Like with the age of the Earth, it's not like there is one rock in the British museum that has convinced everybody the Earth is way more than 100k years old, or whatever YEC believe. It's literally required for physics, astronomy, geology,climatology, anthropology history, linguistics etc to make any sense. I think someone that uninterested in everything could be called a moron.

11-07-2021 , 12:40 PM

#2556

King Spew

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d2_e4

So, at what point is it OK to call someone a certifiable moron as their undertitle

THIS has possibilities for many in P&S methinks.

11-07-2021 , 12:45 PM

#2557

lagtight

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

I was wondering lagtight , do you think aliens might exist ?
Anything about it in the bible ?

My opinion is that aliens do not exist.

11-07-2021 , 12:47 PM

#2558

lagtight

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Not to be too results oriented but dude, you guys elected Trump.

But my efforts only bore fruit the first time I voted for Mr. Trump.

11-07-2021 , 12:48 PM

#2559

lagtight

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

But, but, what about me?

I strongly support the bi-partisan No Troll Left Behind Initiative.

11-07-2021 , 01:11 PM

#2560

BingoSchmingo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Summary so far:

You were not able to provide a link to a peer reviewed journal, instead you provided a link to a site for religious idiots.

What a failure you are Chuck...at least we now understand why no one wants to have sex with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

I strongly support the bi-partisan No Troll Left Behind Initiative.

But you blocked me anyway (while still reading my posts like the sad attention whore that you are)

11-07-2021 , 01:39 PM

#2561

King Spew

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seems like the linked article is peer-reviewed, bingo. Maybe not YOUR peers......

11-07-2021 , 02:07 PM

#2562

Einstein2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Why is it unfortunate?

Because believing that man was created sometime in the past 10,000 years despite all of the scientific, archaeological, and common-sense evidence to the contrary is an objectively stupid belief.

11-07-2021 , 02:08 PM

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Cuepee

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Got it!

I'm unaware of any "accepted science" with respect to Operational Science that many (if any) YEC would disagree with.

It becomes more pronounced in the realm of Speculative Science.

So when you read those 6 bullets points above you think the accepted science view coincides with the YEC view on all 6 of them, most of them?

I am confused.

GIve me a number from those 6, if any that you think if we look at the YEC view it does not coincide with the accepted science view?

I am asking it that way as you seem to be suggesting YEC and accepted science agree in all those areas so I am asking you to isolate out 1 (if nay) where you think that might be not be true??

11-07-2021 , 02:15 PM

#2564

Einstein2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d2_e4

On a similar note, I'm a big fan of this video:

About 1 minute into this it became apparent that she was talking about the number 1. I’m now going to watch the rest to see if I deserve my screen name.

11-07-2021 , 03:59 PM

#2565

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Einstein2

About 1 minute into this it became apparent that she was talking about the number 1. I’m now going to watch the rest to see if I deserve my screen name.

Hint: you don't

11-07-2021 , 04:37 PM

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Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by lagtight

My opinion is that aliens do not exist.

Couldn’t god and his angels be considered aliens ?
Is god considered a living being of some kind ?

11-07-2021 , 08:02 PM

#2567

Cuepee

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Laggy do you believe the Stars we see in the night sky are Angels (Fallen Angels) sitting on their perch in vigilance watching over us?

What is the name for those angels again?

11-07-2021 , 10:05 PM

#2568

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Couldn’t god and his angels be considered aliens ?

I don't know. You can "consider" them that if you want. Depends how you define alien.

Quote:

Is god considered a living being of some kind ?

Yes.

11-07-2021 , 10:08 PM

#2569

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuepee

Laggy do you believe the Stars we see in the night sky are Angels (Fallen Angels) sitting on their perch in vigilance watching over us?

No. Do you? Do you know anyone who does? I do not.

Quote:

What is the name for those angels again?

I don't know what you're talking about. Guardian Angels maybe?

Last edited by lagtight; 11-07-2021 at 10:14 PM.

11-07-2021 , 10:11 PM

#2570

lagtight

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Originally Posted by Cuepee

Good questions! I'll respond when I find out if this derail is going to stay here, get moved to RGT or get nuked. If the latter, I don't want to respond yet. I had a lengthy dialogue here about a year or so ago, and the whole derail got nuked instead of just getting moved to RGT.

11-07-2021 , 10:13 PM

#2571

lagtight

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MODERATORS:

IS THIS DERAIL ON YEC GONNA STAY HERE, GET MOVED TO RGT, OR GET NUKED?

THANKS OODLES AND BUNCHES!

11-07-2021 , 10:35 PM

#2572

Montrealcorp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

I don't know. You can "consider" them that if you want. Depends how you define alien.

Yes.

Fwiw, if aliens were advanced enough through space and reach us , I doubt you or anyone could differentiate between god and them with massive advanced knowledge and technology .

If I was believing in some kind of superior form of life , I would aim at alien first before considering the upmost powerful and improbable thing called god (as u see it (creator of the entire universe) to exist .

11-08-2021 , 02:13 AM

#2573

chezlaw

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I'm sticking with god being some long bored kid with a toy simulator now gathering dust at the back of a cupboard.

I believe this as a form of pascal's wager. it may not be a particualrly likely but if it is true it would make me laugh a lot and make it all seem worthwhile.

11-08-2021 , 03:38 AM

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Montrealcorp

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I just find it peculiar someone believing in god , the most improbable odds of existing , wouldn’t believe in the existence of aliens , with far better odds to exist with far less dramatic implication about the creation and the meaning of the universe …shrug .

I was asking cause I wonder how religious people would feel if a proof of existent of aliens life would have any implication for them about god .