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07-20-2020 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
If WN had banned every poster that called an idiot an idiot, there would be like 5 people left in this subforum.
I think the new mod just called all but 4 of you idiots.



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07-20-2020 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Yes it's a matter of degree but you don't need to guess. As a matter of fact I did not exile fly.

I would also allow him back and have asked R*R to look at it.
Fair enough. I was making presumptions about an assumed future reign of chez.
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07-20-2020 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Love this gif.
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07-20-2020 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
This is certainly correct, and I wasn't trying to conflate the two.

But handling posters who politely link stormfront garbage should be a relatively easy issue for mods to handle. That's an immediate permaban.
I was actually referring to this post, and the discussion leading up to it:

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Like I can't believe any rational person would be discussing this, but If you are actually more concerned about the politeness than the content and accuracy of posts (including racism. sexism, etc. in high volume), than definitely free juan valdez and ToothSayer and don't even consider Fly. In other words if the standard is truly going to be "I don't give a darn about what you say....only in how you say it."
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07-20-2020 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
good luck with whatever happens next.
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07-20-2020 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Fair enough. I was making presumptions about an assumed future reign of chez.
Well anything follows from that premise

but I wouldn't even ban trolly. And he would be miles ahead of fly.
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07-20-2020 , 10:40 AM
TS and JV?
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07-20-2020 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
IMO, the main problems with the forum have always been (I) posters who want to talk about only one thing; and (ii) posters who can't refrain from responding to them.



I'm certainly guilty of (ii).



We all know who is in the first category. For LB, everything is about conspiracies.
This isn't really true fwiw. I mean this is the politics and society subforum and understanding conspiracies are an important aspect of understanding politics and society. But I also enjoy discussions of birds, quantum physics, bird genetics, language and linguistics, personality theory, Freudian psychology, regional differences in people in their attitudes and a whole host of other things that have been discussed here in this forum. It's just that the conspiracy stuff is the most apparent and the day-to-day "oh wow can you believe what Trump did this time" sort of stuff doesn't interest me at all.

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For the record, the people I listed above are not posters I hate. (I suspect that LB would be quicker to donate a kidney to a friend than most of us would.) And it isn't a list of posters who are always wrong. Sometimes it is a conspiracy. Sometimes a MSM outlet is downplaying a story or writing a misleading headline to further an agenda. Sometimes it really is about racism. But not all the time.
I appreciate that. I would donate a kidney if I needed to. I'm sure lots of people here would though.
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07-20-2020 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
TS and JV?
Possibly.
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07-20-2020 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Well anything follows from that premise

but I wouldn't even ban trolly. And he would be miles ahead of fly.
I mean this isn’t a “what if” sort of question. We already know how you would mod a forum, and you’d definitely let people post white nationalist youtubes and you’d refuse to take them down when the community asked you to.
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07-20-2020 , 11:04 AM
That's funny that Chez would do something like that because he really doesn't strike me as a white-nationalist. Say it ain't so Chez.
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07-20-2020 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
That's funny that Chez would do something like that because he really doesn't strike me as a white-nationalist. Say it ain't so Chez.
just ignore trolly. Except as a weird source of amusement. He is so far removed from reality that he thinks Well Named is nazi collaborator who needs to be banned.

Last edited by chezlaw; 07-20-2020 at 11:17 AM.
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07-20-2020 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
just ignore trolly.
It’s odd that you’re dodging his question.
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07-20-2020 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
That's funny that Chez would do something like that because he really doesn't strike me as a white-nationalist. Say it ain't so Chez.
Trolly is entirely correct in his assessment of what happened in chez's politics forum fyi
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07-20-2020 , 11:27 AM
lol
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07-20-2020 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by well named

As for me, well, I just need a break from politics, and to focus on some real life stuff that's more important.
Congratulations, man. I hope that real life treats you very well
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07-20-2020 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
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I can't speak for TD, but if confirmed (still a big if AFAIK) I would try to mod in a similar style overall, with warnings and benefit of the doubt given. If you have vehement objections, now is probably the time to voice them. [...]
Well, now we are confirmed (the lord have mercy upon us), and your points speak for me as well. Well_Named managed this forum as well as can be done, and the plan is to keep it in line with his policies. He will obviously be a tough act to follow. Forum guidelines might be revised, but we're not talking revolutionary stuff.

There is no immediate plan to revert previous exiles. Well_Named has explained those exiles to me and EADGBE, and as most things he does - they are well reasoned out. Honestly, I also think starting modding this forum by reverting exiles is a bit like starting a chili tasting experience with 1 million Scoville.
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07-20-2020 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
lol
I’m sure you can give us a better explanation for why Mat shut your forum down.
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07-20-2020 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
the plan is to keep it in line with his policies.
The posted policies that were enforced like a year ago and call for a well-policed regime to foster a high signal-to-noise ratio? Or the de facto policies of recent months featuring very little moderation of attacks/trolling?
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07-20-2020 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Well, now we are confirmed (the lord have mercy upon us), and your points speak for me as well. Well_Named managed this forum as well as can be done, and the plan is to keep it in line with his policies. He will obviously be a tough act to follow. Forum guidelines might be revised, but we're not talking revolutionary stuff.

There is no immediate plan to revert previous exiles. Well_Named has explained those exiles to me and EADGBE, and as most things he does - they are well reasoned out. Honestly, I also think starting modding this forum by reverting exiles is a bit like starting a chili tasting experience with 1 million Scoville.
Not sure "congrats" is quite the right word here, but always found your posts thoughtful and informative and I''m sure you'll do a great job.
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07-20-2020 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
The posted policies that were enforced like a year ago and call for a well-policed regime to foster a high signal-to-noise ratio? Or the de facto policies of recent months featuring very little moderation of attacks/trolling?
Given some of the continued attacks against Joe6pack in the Trump thread it would seem to be the status quo.
My advice would be to work on the tone there and pay extra attention to that thread. Asking Goofy to eliminate the Trump bot would help.
For the most part this forum is fine. Nobody seems to bother me too much in any of the threads I like to post in at least and Monteroy should be allowed to troll me as much as he desires.
It's just some of the nastiness in other places spills out and I don't always have the self-discipline to not click on the worst threads here.
And my once a week ban list is a good list fwiw.
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07-20-2020 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
SNIP
YOUR GREEN!!!
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07-20-2020 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
The posted policies that were enforced like a year ago and call for a well-policed regime to foster a high signal-to-noise ratio? Or the de facto policies of recent months featuring very little moderation of attacks/trolling?
I don't plan on a laissez-faire approach.

But this process has gone by quickly and me and EADGBE need to get our bearings and discuss things, so we don't start pulling in different directions.
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07-20-2020 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
IIf WN had banned every poster that called an idiot an idiot, there would be like 5 people left in this subforum. I think WN had the right approach, warnings with repeat offenders getting disciplined.
I'm gonna take heed of this and let this one go.

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YOUR GREEN!!!
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07-20-2020 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
If WN had banned every poster that called an idiot an idiot, there would be like 5 people left in this subforum.
I erased more of your post than I meant to, and as a lazy person there is no way of rectifying it.

This forum would, imo, be better with fewer posters. Banning (quickly and with little to no warning) for lack of civility or lack of good content wouldn't be a problem. I don't think I am alone in avoiding reading it because of the unnecessary volume.
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