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01-28-2022 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You know that "About 30%" in this context is log base 10 of 2, right?
That would be how you calculate the explanation I gave. That is different than coming up with the explanation,

If you want a fancier explanation, here is what my buddy Persi Diaconis has to say about it.


https://projecteuclid.org/journals/a...ticleFirstPage
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01-28-2022 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian_Warwulf
I think you undid yourself in there




Were these young men without families of there own? Excluded from participation in family cloistering, a priori, by their lack of identification with those families or family-culture?

Or are you saying that selfish teenagers told their parents to **** off and left to join the Green Marauders?





I think when the times are bad, when necessities are scarce, people will stick to their own. The issue for me is how to determine what "their own" means.

Put another way - understanding rational self interest requires a measure of the content of "self".
You can start with this post Ian.

The first sentence is not a reply, its a statement.

Start there and actual read and address what I said.
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01-28-2022 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
That would be how you calculate the explanation I gave. That is different than coming up with the explanation,

If you want a fancier explanation, here is what my buddy Persi Diaconis has to say about it.


https://projecteuclid.org/journals/a...ticleFirstPage
Ok, I just clicked this link and was greeted with this:



Did mod 1 mean something different in 1977 than it does now? Because, if not, not sure I should read further.
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01-28-2022 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Here is a simple argument that I just thought of.

Pick a large number,n, at random. Then randomly pick a number below n. Suppose you have decided to limit yourself on your first pick to numbers between zero and ten million. If your pick for n is between zero and 2 million, then your second explicit number pick is about 1/mil/2mil +100k/2mil ........ or a little above 55% to start with a one. Had you picked n from the numbers 0 to ten mil. then your second specific number pic is slightly more than 11% to start with a one. In this scenario a one being the first digit would average out to about 30%. /QUOTE]
The **** did I just read?
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01-28-2022 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian_Warwulf
Coupee, my responses to you were imo cogent, sensible, and, well, responsive.

If there is any particular confusion or disconnect that you would like to address, go for it.

Otherwise, it is too cute for you to accuse me of hand waiving by, yourself, hand waiving.
wtf is hand waiving? I know how to waive rights under a contract, and I know how to waive my right to a lawyer, but I don't have the foggiest idea how to waive my hand.
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01-28-2022 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
D2,

That's what I was confused about. Like it won't apply if we just say

1980 202 million
1981 204 million
etc

But might if you say 202.567 million?

Not saying you're wrong, just want to make sure i understand you.
Ok, I'm way too drunk to figure this out tonight, but I'm sure if we normalise if for the sample space somehow, it will work. Like I said, enough digits from the left. If our sample space is 100-300 million, we can normalise it. Might even be as simple as a linear normalisation - multiply everything by 3.33.
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01-28-2022 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
wtf is hand waiving? I know how to waive rights under a contract, and I know how to waive my right to a lawyer, but I don't have the foggiest idea how to waive my hand.
Oh ****, nice spot. Kelhus was always one who got "hand waiving" wrong, even after being corrected multiple times.

Trolly, do you think we might have a Kelhus on our hands? It's really quite an odd and rare error to make, I think? I can sort of see someone "waving rights to a lawyer", but "waiving a hand"?
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01-28-2022 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Oh ****, nice spot. Kelhus was always one who got "hand waiving" wrong, even after being corrected multiple times.

Trolly, do you think we might have a Kelhus on our hands? It's really quite an odd and rare error to make, I think? I can sort of see someone "waving rights to a lawyer", but "waiving a hand"?
Kelhus was a lot dumber? But it’s worth doing an IP check if the mods will oblige.
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01-28-2022 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Kelhus was a lot dumber? But it’s worth doing an IP check if the mods will oblige.
Kelhus is somewhere in Cali I think? Could be mistaken.
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01-28-2022 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Kelhus was a lot dumber? But it’s worth doing an IP check if the mods will oblige.
The reason I asked you, is because I am good at remembering random **** like this:

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Kel, it's "hand wave" not "hand waive."
Don't ask me why.

I'm sure there was another one that followed that said something like "wave, Kel, you know, the thing you do with your hands", the next time he did it.
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01-28-2022 , 11:48 PM


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Last edited by d2_e4; 01-28-2022 at 11:53 PM.
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01-29-2022 , 12:39 AM
He tried to eat his cake and have it too.
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01-29-2022 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Kelhus was a lot dumber? But it’s worth doing an IP check if the mods will oblige.
Ian has posted for several days now without discussing evolutionary biology, which means he can't be Kelhus.
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01-29-2022 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Ok, I'm way too drunk to figure this out tonight, but I'm sure if we normalise if for the sample space somehow, it will work. Like I said, enough digits from the left. If our sample space is 100-300 million, we can normalise it. Might even be as simple as a linear normalisation - multiply everything by 3.33.
Yeah, that doesn't normalise much, our lower bound is 333 mill. Don't drink & normalise, kids.

We'll pick this up tomorrow!
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01-29-2022 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Ian has posted for several days now without discussing evolutionary biology, which means he can't be Kelhus.
And also, without complaining about mass media. Def not the Kelmeister.

So, there are two of these morons walking around who think that you "waive" your hands. Who knew.

This one is particularly fun though, since he fancies himself as quite the wordsmith.
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01-29-2022 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
He tried to eat his cake and have it too.
The **** is up with the mod 1 thing. What am I missing here?

Until and unless told otherwise, I assuming that Sklansky's buddy thinks "mod 1" means "numbers starting with 1", and am not reading any more.
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01-29-2022 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
The **** is up with the mod 1 thing. What am I missing here?

Until and unless told otherwise, I assuming that Sklansky's buddy thinks "mod 1" means "numbers starting with 1", and am not reading any more.
It's the remainder
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01-29-2022 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
It's the remainder

I doubt a prof of maths at Stanford is getting it wrong but ymmv
Ok, genius. What is n mod 1 for any n, natural. Take your time.
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01-29-2022 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian_Warwulf
have you considered Pantheism?
Not really

Do you mean our universe or everything?
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01-29-2022 , 01:40 AM
Start with n mod 3, work your way down to n mod 2 (i.e. whether a number is odd or even), and eventually, you might just figure out what n mod 1 is.
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01-29-2022 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Ok, genius. What is n mod 1 for any n, natural. Take your time.
why bother when we have the answer of real genius

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Until and unless told otherwise, I assuming that Sklansky's buddy thinks "mod 1" means "numbers starting with 1", and am not reading any more.
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01-29-2022 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
why bother when we have the answer of real genius
Chez,

What are the squares mod 5?

Thanks in advance,

d2
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01-29-2022 , 01:45 AM
circles?

you're welcome

chez
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01-29-2022 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
circles?

you're welcome

chez
No, sir, those are rounded rectangles where the rounding radius is 1 radian and the foci coincide.

You could work out the squares mod 5 on a piece of paper in about 30 seconds, if you understood the question. So, let's not be questioning me on modular arithmetic (or number theory in general), eh? You are the Inspector Clouseau of... everything.
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