Well, there are different meanings of self awareness. Conservatives are aware they are conservative, and are ok with it. "Progressive" Liberals think they are actually liberals, when (IMO) they are really just conservatives of a different stripe. And they seem to earnestly buy into an illusion of progress the media and corporate elites feed to them, with little self awareness how degrading to actual progress a lot of culture war stuff is.

Wait, so I made several points about a man approaching a random woman who was in a park who was essentially by herself, about a man filming said random woman and refusing to stop filming the woman, about a man trying to lure said woman’s dog away from her with dog treats, etc...and your huge objection and only focus is that I used the word “stalking” or “following” to describe the event? This woman, who has no interest in being approached by this man, who wants nothing to do with this man and who wants to be left alone...but who now has been involved in a decently long incident with him because the man is being a freak...and you want to get into a semantic battle about about whether his harassment constitutes “stalking”? Goodness, I guess when that’s all you have, that’s what you’ll try to gravitate toward.

By the way, any more idiotic/disingenuous memes pretending like the protestors in Michigan were some horribly violent people while the protestors in Michigan were some calm, peaceful people?

And lastly, do you not see the hypocrisy in doing the whole pathetic “Karen” thing? Very sexist and racist, but perhaps you’re too sexist and racist to realize it.

Well, I can't speak for others, but Luckbox teased my views out of me in this derail, which got moved to it's own thread. Feel free to revive it.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...enter-1768824/

I mean the root of Progressivism is Progress. And I don't know what kind of future you seem to think social media callout culture is moving us toward, but it seems to be progressing us towards something more out of a Orwell novel than a Star Trek movie.

Are you asking me? I have made no comments about this case other than to call out LDLC for his flagrant lies.

Hahahahahaha. You're still lying about it!

Utopia is right around the corner as soon as all the olds die off. But we also have to stop everything to prevent that from happening.

Wait, so what's the deal with luring the off leash dogs over to him with treats? Is that just so he can apprehend the dog and get their owner to put the leash on??

If you weren't such a mental midget you would realize I was responding to a sarcastic post with similar sarcasm.

And she was holding the dog by the collar at the time. At no stage in the video was it on the loose.

Breaking the law, lol. Her ****ing tiny little dog was off the leash. She wasn't robbing a bank.

Who knows? What we do know is that a strange man in a park was trying to lure a woman’s dog away from her and refused to stop trying to escalate the situation and the tension. And we know that sexist racists on this forum have continued to try to defend this abhorrent behavior.

Reality: Karen is on video getting in the man's face while he asks her not to, then threatens to call the police and tell them a black man is threatening her life, then actually does that
Racist fever dream world:

this is an amazing take in a thread where people are defending the idea that a dude was murdered for walking near an abandoned construction project.

Well, it probably should be in a separate thread tbf.

Who's actually defending a dude being murdered? I haven't really followed that story closely.

Careful. Your racism, sexism, and hypocrisy are showing.

Thank god I live in a country where no-one would say you have to keep your dog on a lead if you don't want it lured. Or even think of telling the police about someone being black to get them react more quickly/brutally

Or think videoing strangers without their permission isn't intimidating just because it's a public place and not illegal.

and no-one even had a gun this time or even killed anyone.

or ...

What a country.

and no excuse for her racist response but
This is ****ed up. If she wont respond to a reasonable request then call the authorities.

Seems like another one of the benefits of your country is that black men in your country might (or might not, I don't actually know, but you clearly don't know about the United States) feel comfortable calling the authorities, and think the authorities will actually help them when they show up.

No idea what he was planning on doing with the dog but if he goes through with luring it then she is wise to call the police (obviously not with the racist bit) and they would legitimately have to respond to a crime.

What a world you live in where there's no other options here but involving the police. "Ma'am, would you put your dog on a leash?" "No" *chez calls the police* "Sir, could you not entice my dog with treats?" "No" *chez calls the police*

What if he just calls the dog and it comes over to him and he pets it? Call the police? Are the dog treats the criminal aspect here? ****ing insane.

Dont be silly

She should put the dog on the lead
He shouldn't capture the dog if she wont

This is not tricky.

In fairness, it’s easy to see how it can be confusing for a racist and a sexist. You see, goofy constantly stereotypes and demonizes white women by calling them “Karen” whenever they wish to ask a black person to stop doing something that seems somewhat inappropriate (even though ghat something is often not trivial at all). However, when an incredibly strange black man acts as a total “Karen” and tries to harass a white woman for merely having her 10 lb dog off her leash, and then that man says, “You won’t like what I’m about to do”...and then he tries to lure her dog away with food to do who knows what..goofy has difficulty processing the situation for what it is. He spends so much of his time criticizing “Karens” for so much less that he doesn’t know what he should say about the ultimate Karen that is this freaky small dog leash policeman.

There's no excuse for the 'karen' thingy. No defense for her racism either.

That's like a 40 lbs dog
ETA: ok maybe 20-25 after reviewing pictures.

Ok idk. 30 lbs. More than 10 by a lot though. Cocker Spaniel which are said to weight between 26-35 lbs.

Would you be carrying when you escalated the confrontation with the middle aged bird watcher ?

Give dog treat

????????

Dog and owner die