No one is this dense.

Homie should change his nick to "logicproof", IMO.

A libertarian told me how he should be allowed to bring a gun on a place to protect himself, as that is his right, and when I pointed out that people would then bring a lot of guns on a lot of planes, which would cause all sorts of problems, I was told that only people who knew how to handle them should bring them on.

They are literally this dense. This guy is pretty standard in that regard.

They have the sorts of ideas that occur to smart nine year olds - things like why can't I just stop paying taxed by declaring myself an independent country - the difference is that smart nine year olds soon understand that reality conditions the imagination in important ways.

So security companies will go to war in your opinion instead of working together? And one will rise victorious and I will be forced to use them?

Currency is always zero.

It's like you want the beads on your abacus to be worth more than the goods you're counting with it.

I don't get that people are shocked and confused when they realize a dollar doesn't have any value other than it's use as a medium of exchange......as if that wasn't the whole point to begin with.

Now I do agree that butter is better than guns for an economy. But it's been pointed out that the system you're proposing isn't going to eliminate spending of war or one kind or another.

Well, there will be different groups that organize in different areas, some larger, some smaller depending on a bunch of factors like population density and demographics. Based on your posts though - safe to say you aint gonna be a predator in this new world of yours, but I also completely get that you do not understand that at all and will stick to your theoretical mental constructs. Fortunately for you, they likely will never exist.

I mean - what are your thoughts about the right to bring a gun on a plane? Guessing you will deflect this with some I was told by a keyword dude that yadda yadda yadda reply.

All the best.

Do you understand how extortion works?

I was once told by a State-ist that we don't need a central bank because we have the fed.

Yes it's the system we are operating under now. The one you are defending.

So you agree that it will decentralize power? Is that bad? I don't think its a good idea to bring guns on planes, but me being a libertarian and all you should know what my answer would be. It's up to the airline, who I would bet we agree with both of us that its a bad idea.

Right, and in your utopia, all the bad people who want to extort others suddenly disappear, and we're left with meadows and puppies and rainbows and other mediocre metaphors as far as the eye can see. Pretty sure that's exactly how the world works.

Even if we take your interpretation of what a "state" is as given, in your world, it's even worse - you still get extorted, but now 100% of the money goes to the extortionist, instead of some x < 100%, with the balance going to build roads and for other public goods.

I know you're only 11 so some of this is hard to grasp, but try and think about it sensibly, really.

Not sure we "agree" as you are attempting to force here, rather I am saying that the level of organization that bends you over may vary depending on your situation. You would definitely still be a prey animal.

Sounds like you are generally ok with guns on a plane if the rando running the plane says "yeehah - let's all bring dem guns on to protect vs terrorists and the virus"

Not sure how you would get to him though, you still have no roads built.

All the best.

There is more private security in this country that there are police, are there wars going on I don't know about?

I'm not ok with guns on a plane, and I wouldn't fly on an airline that allowed them.

There seems to be quite a lot that you don't know about. But why spoil it, you'll find out soon enough, it's all part of growing up!

When you're old enough, maybe watch a couple of prison/mob/gang documentaries to see what happens in an "every man for himself" society where only the strongest survive. Now imagine the same but with no cops or guards.

No bad people don't disappear, they just don't have the power of the State anymore.

So security companies in your view will just go door to door declaring war unless people them money? Sounds profitable in a country with 300 million guns lol. They would be dead and out of business in a month. I would love to see the ads they post looking for workers lol.

"Come work here for $40/hr, we can guarantee full time work that will consist of the following; shooting innocent people, invading your neighbors property and stealing from others"

Nice dodge

That's exactly what the mafia does now, dipshit. Except, currently, they just extort other criminals who can't go to the cops - in your world, there won't be any cops to contain their activities, so you will either join up with them or you'll be "prey" as Monteroy puts it. You think your piddly little tuppence is going to buy a security company that wants to go against Gotti?

You might think it's all great to **** on the weak and the disabled, but if your wishes come true, you're going to find out that it's not so much fun when the rabbit's got the gun.

Or, let me guess, we can't trust people to be fundamentally good in the current system, but suddenly, when we adopt your system, all the bad people, they just magically disappear by virtue of not having the power of the State any more?

In terms of numbers of employed persons? I don't believe you.

I'm definitely cancelling my subscription to the mob when anarchytopia becomes real.

I wish we could just ship a few thousand of these dunces off to a remote island to run their libertarian utopia and see how they get on.

They kind of did that in Hong Kong for a little while. Not complete anarchy (no rulers) but very limited govt. Seems to be the right direction to go in, you will be disappointed thought because it didn’t turn into a prison.

I’ll be back later, in the meantime someone change the thread title to “The Triggering” please, thanks.

Libertarians are like riggies - they say the same impractical stuff year after year and each one thinks they are the one who discovered the magical answer. This guy is a bit more artistic in the I am leaving now - here is my parting shot drama routine at least. Not sure what he does in utopia when he has no road to use for this exit...

I can sort of sympathise a bit with riggies, we've all had runs of cards where it feels like circumstances are conspiring against us, some just handle it more rationally than others. These nutjobs, on the other hand, I don't even...

You says this like they haven't tried this many times before.