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09-02-2021 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
From Gotquestions.org:


The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However, there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as for someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb to be just as much of a human being as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).
Massive empirical scientific evidences .
And why those words should have more value than any others , no idea ….
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09-02-2021 , 05:06 PM
It's certainly interesting that Texas seems to embrace 1930s Soviet-style informants. I'm glad I don't live in a place where that is acceptable policy.

Similarly, the tactic of exploiting the civil court system to circumvent legal and judicial challenges that could normally follow a law is an interesting take. To my layman eyes it would seem that this is a wide open door to ignore legal precedents.
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09-02-2021 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Are you really stupid or something ?
And you on top of that deliberately say to people learn to read and comprehend ?
Wtf !

First off , You complain about media sources and you bring this one ????
Lol .

Regardless , look at the freakn title of your article ffs and read this passage :

“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday released data showing that vaccinated people are at increased risk for COVID-19 infection with the Delta variant and that they can spread the disease nearly as easily as unvaccinated people.“

Obviously you will never admit you were wrong cause it still states unvaccinated people are at less risk
BUT

Do you at least realize the vaccine that was created last year was for the original covid strain and not the delta ?
Do you realize virus can mutate ?
Do you realize one of the reason science did not produce any vaccine that work permanently for influenza ,covid or HIV virus it’s because they mutate all the time ?
So yeah people that vaccinated are incredibly better off than the unvaccinated ones vs the original covid than the delta variant .
And vs the delta , even tho the vaccine to prevent transmission is less effective ( reason to keep other sanitary measures still) , the vaccine still provide massive advantages for not getting stuck in emergency rooms in hospitals .

Point is : yeah genius , vaccines lose effectiveness vs virus that mutates , who knew …..
Doesn’t mean the vaccine is not good or not necessary and it still very effective vs the covid it was actually design to fight …

Here’s your logic .

Because vaccine is not as good vs covid 19 delta variant , let’s not take it at all because being expose to 2 covid variant is better than to face only 1 variant of covid unvaccinated.
What kind of logic is that…
Let’s increases risk to better protect ourselves ? wtf….

Activated enraged feminist mode. Entertaining.


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09-02-2021 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Activated enraged feminist mode. Entertaining.


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No more arguments .
Thx …
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09-02-2021 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
No more arguments .
Thx …

Good. Your random capitalization and bolding of words is a definite sign of mental issues. Seek help.


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09-02-2021 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
Where is the sanctity of life when Jesus/God kills every baby and fetus on earth in the flood for something someone else did thousands of years before with a talking serpent?? GTFOOH.
No apologists for this point ... because the doctrine is false and obscene. And there is no getting around it but looking away from it.
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09-02-2021 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I won't answer questions that commit the Complex Question Fallacy. DUCY?
Not really. I am not asking you when you stopped being homophobic or beating your wife. "Life begins at birth" seems like a absolute principle that should not allow for any exceptions. Asking you to explain why you believe the exceptions should exist if you believe in the absolutism is not a complex question fallacy.

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09-02-2021 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
From Gotquestions.org:

https://www.gotquestions.org/abortion-Bible.html


The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However, there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as for someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb to be just as much of a human being as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).
Exodus is addressed in my post above.

I am missing where those other ones say anything about abortion? Please highlight or quote specifically?

Because saying "God Knows us..." in NO WAY suggests he is against killing. God knows the adults too and there are TONS of passaging on killing the adults.

So please be clearer.
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09-02-2021 , 08:20 PM
Anti Abortion laws are NOT anti woman because women aren't the only ones who get pregnant. Men and non binary people also get pregnant, and to say otherwise is transphobic and super gross.
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09-02-2021 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
Anti Abortion laws are NOT anti woman because women aren't the only ones who get pregnant. Men and non binary people also get pregnant, and to say otherwise is transphobic and super gross.
No such thing as men and women anyways. It's all a continuum. Saying that "men" are trying to control "women" is only perpetuating harmful gender stereotypes about who can get pregnant and who can't.

Really good point ejames.
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09-02-2021 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
Anti Abortion laws are NOT anti woman because women aren't the only ones who get pregnant. Men and non binary people also get pregnant, and to say otherwise is transphobic and super gross.
Anti Miscegenation laws are NOT anti POC because POC aren’t the only ones who get married in a mixed race relationship. White people and other races also get married in a mixed race relationship and to say otherwise is racist and super gross.
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09-02-2021 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
Anti Miscegenation laws are NOT anti POC because POC aren’t the only ones who get married in a mixed race relationship. White people and other races also get married in a mixed race relationship and to say otherwise is racist and super gross.
How does that even make sense or logically follow as a rebuttal to what ejames said?

Which races do you consider POC and which ones are not? I'm pretty confused.

I'm sure someone like yourself has them all broken down into nice discrete categories for us.
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09-02-2021 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm pretty confused.
I know. Don’t worry, you’ll get there.
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09-02-2021 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
I know.
It's a classic dishonest troll poster thing to cut out a part of someone's post and only respond to it.

No wonder you were previously banned.

But can you answer my question please?

Isn't your post there just completed nonsense? Which non-white people do you consider not POC?
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09-02-2021 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It's a classic dishonest troll poster thing to cut out a part of someone's post and only respond to it.

No wonder you were previously banned.

But can you answer my question please?

Isn't your post there just completed nonsense? Which non-white people do you consider not POC?
I’ve already told you, I am not a previously banned poster.
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09-02-2021 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
I’ve already told you, I am not a previously banned poster.
Then I'm sure you won't have any problem sharing what your previous account was.

Also-- which non-white aren't people of color?

I suppose you non answering that question is an admission that your post was pure nonsense, and I'll take your refusal to address who you are as an admission that you've been banned.
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09-02-2021 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Then I'm sure you won't have any problem sharing what your previous account was.
Maybe, but not right now.
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09-02-2021 , 08:44 PM
I was hoping that you could be Fly for a second but I rejected that idea.
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09-02-2021 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I was hoping that you could be Fly for a second but I rejected that idea.
Your guesses are terrible. A hint is in the location.
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09-02-2021 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
Your guesses are terrible. A hint is in the location.
Because I’m RAIDS?
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09-02-2021 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Massive empirical scientific evidences .
And why those words should have more value than any others , no idea ….

The context of my link is to counter the argument that the Bible does not condemn abortion.

The validity of the Bible is a topic for RGT.
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09-02-2021 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
No apologists for this point ... because the doctrine is false and obscene. And there is no getting around it but looking away from it.
We have discussed this in RGT several times. We can discuss it again over there, if you want.
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09-02-2021 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Not really. I am not asking you when you stopped being homophobic or beating your wife. "Life begins at birth" seems like a absolute principle that should not allow for any exceptions. Asking you to explain why you believe the exceptions should exist if you believe in the absolutism is not a complex question fallacy.
I am unaware of any exceptions. I addressed this in an earlier recent post.
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09-02-2021 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Montrealcorp's true character has been revealed. Wishes death on people he disagrees with.

Pretty sure it’s a woman. Men don’t act that unhinged.


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09-03-2021 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Implying that you wish death upon someone simply for disagreeing with you is also a sign of mental illness. Seek help.


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So now you consider covid a dangerous mortal disease ?
Lol …..

But from your POV, it’s that the case , I guess I am way better than you since I target only you while you target millions of others by saying vaccines is not efficient at all , welcoming others not taking it ….
Bravo

I’m not mad about disagreeing with you lol .
Non stop for 3 pages you kept insulting and denigrating people while no one did, at some point people get fed up of your games ….

Ps: showing you clearly you lied multiple times in this thread on what you said is not just a matter of disagreeing .
You back pedalling cause you realize how bad you were wrong now and try to play the good, diplomat guy ?
Please …

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