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Re: corpus vile vs the world -- are Trump's comments racist? Re: corpus vile vs the world -- are Trump's comments racist?

06-09-2020 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by September.28
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Yeah that must me it mate. I'd also just like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation for your decidedly non garbled posts.
06-09-2020 , 11:21 AM
Don't know if this Sept is an old regular but it was standard tactic to blame the defender of multiple repeated attacks rather than the concerted barrage of repeated attacks from the same old group. Not sure it washes anymore.
06-09-2020 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
false claims false claims false claims I totes didn't go to bat for the McMichaels false claims I totes don't have a problem with criticism even though I can't stop blathering about it
This is very simple. You believed there wasn't evidence the McMichaels had said or done anything to make you believe race played a factor in the killing prior to what the FBI uncovered

I told you there was, and explained to you why, as did several other posters

You argued endlessly. You are being nitty about the exact words of everyone who is arguing with you and screaming they're all slandering you or something. You really do not understand that you are only embarrassing yourself in this process

Then evidence came out that made it clear that the McMichaels were indeed a pair of racist ****s. So you ended up being wrong about race not playing a factor. Your claim is there was no evidence up until that point. That is called going to bat for the McMichaels bro...again, you're allowed to simply admit that yeah ultimately you proved to be wrong about the whole thing the whole time

You have a right to still believe there was never any evidence race played a factor until the FBI went full CSI on the matter and proved one dude actually hit the guy with his truck and their social media history got exposed, cool. You were still wrong that there wasn't any evidence to suggest race played a factor. I and many others laid out the case, plainly, right in front you. You just chose to handwave it away. That's your problem, not mine
06-09-2020 , 11:28 AM
Damn his soul to Hades for his awesome (and articulate) expose of my evil web of lies
06-09-2020 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Aaaaw. There there. It's okay.




Except I already did. On the AA thread, before confirmation came to light re the M's being scummy racists, I asked if M sr's LE record could be unearthed, if he disproportionately targeted back people, or if any online comments could be found from either of them... which is not a particularly unreasonable thing to ask for.

Re use of the word thug as a racist dog whistle I cited the murder of Jordan Davis as a valid example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jordan_Davis

I also said I considered the Amy Cooper affair in central park as racism. I also consider Svitlana Flom as a racist incident
https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/02/white...ench-12790961/

Not my problem you haven't read my posts but hope that clears things up for you.

Anyway you were saying something about Trump calling for the murder of black people on twitter because he really meant that because he's he's Trump? Or something??

Like I said think what ya like mate and I'll continue to do the same.
Dude, you post is an incoherant mess.

Just bullet point what you would consider PROOF of racism in clear and concise points.
06-09-2020 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Dude, you post is an incoherant mess.

Just bullet point what you would consider PROOF of racism in clear and concise points.
Dude, we already got our answer for that.

1. Calling the black guy you just murdered a ****ing n-word.

End of list.
06-09-2020 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
This is very simple. You believed there wasn't evidence the McMichaels had said or done anything to make you believe race played a factor in the killing prior to what the FBI uncovered
Yeah so didn't go to bat for anyone, glad you've decided to give the porky pies a rest.

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I told you there was, and explained to you why, as did several other posters
Yeah. White on black down south and one of 'em was old. Truly faultless inarguable logic.

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You argued endlessly. You are being nitty about the exact words of everyone who is arguing with you and screaming they're all slandering you or something. You really do not understand that you are only embarrassing yourself in this process
You made a bunch of false claims stop backpedaling now re "nitty"

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Then evidence came out that made it clear that the McMichaels were indeed a pair of racist ****s. So you ended up being wrong about race not playing a factor. Your claim is there was no evidence up until that point.
Which there wasn't and the reasoning you and others used was akin to even a stopped clock being right twice a day

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That is called going to bat for the McMichaels bro...
No it isn't. Only in your weird ass world where you insist Trump called for the murder of black people on twitter due to his condemnation of rioters in general it is. Ergo, someone saying that atm they didn't see evidence to support racism becomes "going to bat for the M's" due to the other posters unwillingness to dumb himself down and adopt your laughably weak criteria for such things.

No I'd be proven wrong had I asserted there was no racism involved but I never asserted any such things and I'm sorry you can't read or retain info, you have my sympathies mate.

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You have a right to still believe there was never any evidence race played a factor until the FBI went full CSI on the matter and proved one dude actually hit the guy with his truck and their social media history got exposed, cool.
Soon as the evidence became public I readily acknowledged was a hate murder, so dunno what you're even on about.You mean the social media comments I'd already inquired about before it became known? Those ones? It's almost like I was looking for something other than pure assumption before making a call on things, isn't it...

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You were still wrong that there wasn't any evidence to suggest race played a factor.
No I wasn't as different race, location and DOB are in no way evidence and I pray you're never on a jury if that's what passes for your standards. You'd be voting to convict defendants because you didn't like the look of them or something.

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I and many others laid out the case, plainly, right in front you. You just chose to handwave it away. That's your problem, not mine
Nope I asked for something more tangible than the abstract crap given. You weren't able to provide it which is your problem not mine.
06-09-2020 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Dude, you post is an incoherant mess.

Just bullet point what you would consider PROOF of racism in clear and concise points.
Already highlighted and you gave SFA proof to back up your $hite, the end
06-09-2020 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
My point was you spend way too much time "defending yourself" instead of letting it go. And it makes you look bad. You don't even understand why and you went off on your longest post ever on me. You simply don't get it and you never will. You care way too much about the wrong things. I have been genuine and sincere with you from the start. It is you who are getting up in arms about the same thing, over and over...

You go to bat for the McMichaels every time you continue to make the argument that race did not play a factor in the crime they committed. We had an honest conversation about that, you and I, but you can't seem to stop talking about it. You ended up being proven very, very wrong about it and I maintained throughout the entire time that you really don't know what you're talking about, you're just trying to inject yourself into a world you've literally never set foot in and know nothing about. I LIVED IN IT. You are clueless. Your basic retort is NO U and that I have an agenda and again, you are clueless

I made a living playing online poker. Running a business. Owning real estate. The thread I'm arguing with you in have posters who are (correctly) aligning with me and, maybe disrespectfully, trying to explain to you what you are incorrect about. And you continue to stammer like a lawyer out of bullets resorting to pounding the table. Those same posters are currently on Unstuck Politics talking about how I, a landlord, should be ****ing abolished

You are ****ing oblivious beyond all belief. Go read my posts in the conservative principles thread and make note I have no agenda. Just a high IQ brain that can think for himself and not lose his **** when reading UP or 22 while JuanValdez calls me a latte sipping, Prius driving, low T beta male pussy. Never mind I weigh 200 and can bench nearly 300 and have been an athlete all my life. Try listening with an interest in breaking down your own way of thinking before just waiting your turn to blow our minds by repeating yourself with the same nonsense that has left you roundly mocked for the past weeks

There, that is my honest, sincere response. I'm sorry it pisses you off that I'm criticizing you. I have considered criticism of me and that abolish the landlords thread has made me reconsider a lot. I don't agree with it, nor do I agree with the idea that capitalism can't function without racism, but that doesn't mean I'm going to lose my ****, stammer and yell that they're wrong. Question everything, always, you are not infallible. There is nothing wrong with taking an L. I've have taken plenty, trust me. I tried to help you at first but now I give up
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06-09-2020 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
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1. Yeah I know you don't. you're going to think this about him no matter what. Never mind what he actually said or his condemnation several times over of neo nazis, racism, white supremacy and bigotry. He didn't really mean those things because he's racist and is racist because he's Trump.
Lol at anyone thinking that happened. Add that to a person who defends Trump against any accusations of racism no matter how crystal clear and you got a real wacko.

Why do you love Trump so much. I don’t think you are racist, but you absolutely have an extremely unhealthy unrequited love for Donald J. Trump.

You Stan for him harder than Joe Six Pack and Joe six pack is an over the top fake troller.

So what is the real story with you and Trump? Why is an Irish lad going HAM in defense of any and all negative accusations about Donald Trump.

I said I don’t think you are a racist, but that is fleeting because Donald Trump is clearly a racist, and at some point the unending defense gains you admission into the club.

Just to circle back around. You are claiming Trump has said all sorts of things proving he is not racist. I am starting to believe you have an issue processing the English language because you constantly are misunderstanding even very basic sentences.
06-09-2020 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Dude, we already got our answer for that.

1. Calling the black guy you just murdered a ****ing n-word.

End of list.
not enough for me. he could have been quoting a movie and had a rap song stuck in his head.

also, non-racist people can say the n-word. sometimes it just slips out. you can never tell what is in someones heart.
06-09-2020 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
I know mate because it just does, meaning Trump called for the murder of black people on twitter, I hear ya
I figured it would take a while but congrats for finally catching up to everyone else and understanding what Trump was saying.

Language can be an abusive mistress and people who are unable to grasp nuance are destined to be abused and brainwashed by those who do.

Sure we should be worried about the guy saying “Murder all the black protesters” but we should be mortified about the guy who can manipulate the language enough to plant the seed “Murder all the black protesters” and have the target audience not even realize it.

That is some truly scary stuff. I guess it was my mistake in thinking someone posting in a political discussion forum would have at least average ability to parse language.
06-09-2020 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Don't know if this Sept is an old regular but it was standard tactic to blame the defender of multiple repeated attacks rather than the concerted barrage of repeated attacks from the same old group. Not sure it washes anymore.
Shut up chez, you must have a full on erection seeing the political discourse returned to full on racist tilt like it enjoyed under your command.

Yeah the problem is people attacking not CV, Not him just claiming that Donald Trump is not racist and he has receipts.

You are a ridiculous human being who hides their blatant absurdity in politeness. Plus shove your both sides schtick.
06-09-2020 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
not enough for me. he could have been quoting a movie and had a rap song stuck in his head.

also, non-racist people can say the n-word. sometimes it just slips out. you can never tell what is in someones heart.
There's always an explanation, guys.

06-09-2020 , 01:00 PM
Corpus, congrats on achieving your own vanity thread. You're now in the company of such esteemed posters as Luckbox and JV (RIP).
06-09-2020 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Shut up chez, you must have a full on erection seeing the political discourse returned to full on racist tilt like it enjoyed under your command.

Yeah the problem is people attacking not CV, Not him just claiming that Donald Trump is not racist and he has receipts.

You are a ridiculous human being who hides their blatant absurdity in politeness. Plus shove your both sides schtick.
What's ridiculous is the people who keep bringing the same stuff up blaming anybody but themselves for it keep coming up

Used to work but moving it to a containment thread is much more reasonable
06-09-2020 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Lol at anyone thinking that happened. Add that to a person who defends Trump against any accusations of racism no matter how crystal clear and you got a real wacko.
The claim was that he called for the murder of black people on twitter. Not that he was racist. It was simply amended to that when you couldn't provide the quote of him saying that.

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Why do you love Trump so much. I don’t think you are racist, but you absolutely have an extremely unhealthy unrequited love for Donald J. Trump.
I don't even like him. I'm just not into false claims being made about anyone.


[quote]I said I don’t think you are a racist, but that is fleeting because Donald Trump is clearly a racist, and at some point the unending defense gains you admission into the club.
Oh noes

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Just to circle back around. You are claiming Trump has said all sorts of things proving he is not racist.
Please cite verbatim where I claimed Trump is not a racist. I'll wait.(and wait and then wait some more still while listening to crickets and watching tumbleweeds blow by...)

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06-09-2020 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
@ d2_e4

Sorry, I meant to address your comment re the militia and anti Islamic thing. From the wiki link:

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In June 2017, members of the group were present at an ACT! for America-sponsored "March against Sharia" protest in front of the downtown Federal Building in Syracuse, New York. The event was met by a larger group of counter-protesters. The Light Foot Militia group stated "they did not support either side, but were there to make sure all sides were able to excise their First Amendment rights."
This group clearly have a thing for the first amendment, as in the amendment which protects freedom of religion as well as peaceful assembly. You're seriously, seriously reaching here, alleging they're Islamophobic, racists or neo nazis. But as I said think what you like, your mind is already made up, so far be it from me to change your belief system.

But the claims that Trump called for the murder of black people on twitter and that he praised neo-nazis with his both sides comment are rejected for being patently false. No matter how many times the same two points get endlessly repeated. So we'll leave it at that and focus on Mr Floyd's murder and the ensuing protests and riots as well as the eventual trial, instead.
Yes, I am sure the heavily armed anti-government staunch 1A defenders attended the anti-Muslim march to make sure the Muslims got heard out, just like they attended Charlottesville to make sure the counter-protesters got heard out.

You're far too articulate to be this gullible, so what exactly is your agenda in propagating this horseshit?
06-09-2020 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Corpus, congrats on achieving your own vanity thread. You're now in the company of such esteemed posters as Luckbox and JV (RIP).


06-09-2020 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
not enough for me. he could have been quoting a movie and had a rap song stuck in his head.

also, non-racist people can say the n-word. sometimes it just slips out. you can never tell what is in someones heart.
06-09-2020 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Yes, I am sure the heavily armed anti-government staunch 1A defenders attended the anti-Muslim march to make sure the Muslims got heard out, just like they attended Charlottesville to make sure the counter-protesters got heard out.
I'm sensing sarcasm

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You're far too articulate to be this gullible
Please cite any racist/supremacist literature by either of the militias named. and explain why they're keeping their apparent neo nazism secret. Please explain why they have non white and non Christian members.
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so what exactly is your agenda in propagating this horseshit?
I have an issue with the false claim that Trump "Called for the murder of African Americans on twitter"

I further have an issue with that a being suddenly amended to his really meaning that since nobody can provide the quote of him saying that. And also with the piss poor reasoning used to justify the original falsehood.
06-09-2020 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Shut up chez, you must have a full on erection seeing the political discourse returned to full on racist tilt like it enjoyed under your command.

Yeah the problem is people attacking not CV, Not him just claiming that Donald Trump is not racist and he has receipts.

You are a ridiculous human being who hides their blatant absurdity in politeness. Plus shove your both sides schtick.
Mee-ooow
06-09-2020 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Sure we should be worried about the guy saying “Murder all the black protesters” .
Please provide that quote from trump. Thanks in advance.
06-09-2020 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Please cite any racist/supremacist literature by either of the militias named. and explain why they're keeping their apparent neo nazism secret. Please explain why they have non white and non Christian members.
Right after you show me one example of these staunch 1A defenders attending any protest or march which didn't involve white supremacist or neo-nazi groups on one side, since presumably they care so much about freedom of speech. Maybe they attended the women's march but we just didn't hear about it? Or maybe some BLM protests, to protect the protesters from the cops? What are they up to during the current spate of protests, incidentally?

And of course they have a motivation to keep their neo-nazism under wraps. It's not exactly a position that makes you popular, and it also attracts additional attention from law enforcement - probably something they don't want or need given their fetish for stockpiling heavy weaponry.
06-09-2020 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Yeah. CV's ACLU counterexample is terrible. In his example, the ACLU obviously was supporting the right to speak, not the message. There is no evidence that these militia groups were attempting to support the right to speak as opposed to the message.
Yes there is, you're simply ignoring it. Their condemnation was already linked, whether you choose to accept it or not.

And you seem to think that only the ACLU can support the right to speak but that nobody else can support the right to speak or assemble and anyone else who does are secret neo nazis due to them being a militia. Southern Poverty Law Center is clearly wrong as well, but what would they know anyway, they only research groups for a living.

Again the whole argument is circular reasoning working backwards from Trump called for the murder of black people and is a racist and any evidence to the contrary can be summarily dismissed.

Not sure why this thread was even created I'd already said to think what you like. Just don't expect me to pander to such illogical circular reasoning.

      
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