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12-03-2024 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Some would say we see a leader putting the people in his country first weather that is the truth or not we will see . Id like to see that here
And putting Canada (and Mexico) last. So as a presumably proud Canadian who presumably loves his country, why exactly are you cheering on Trump as he is threatening to absolutely decimate Canada in economic warfare????

Before Bobo had great quotes of you claiming - hilariously - that Trump would be good for Canada. Now that we know he is going to be TERRIBLE for Canada, are you willing to say you were wrong?

Which side are you even on?
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12-03-2024 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
It's kind of funny how Canadian maga types try to blame Canada for Trump's absolutely outrageous absolutely unjustified and absolutely unjustifiable threat of a 25% across the board tarrif on Canada. It's not like "secure the border" was some obvious failing that conservative opposition in Canada was raising up as their #1 issue (remember when you failed to show you had EVER spoken about it even once). But as soon as Trump says it is a problem oh boy does the blame game about it being all Trudeau's fault suddenly jump up.

So predictable.
Trudeau sucked in immigration and yet trump build a wall and it didn’t changed anything …..like everyone knew it wouldn’t .
But trumps great !
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12-03-2024 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Although I do view him as a liberator at this point. It's not cheering, it's pointing out how Trudeau's incompetence has put us in a position where Trudeau is now Trump's muppet.
It’s not the Canadian situation that we end up in a muppet trump situation .
It’s Trudeau himself .
Canada should not be scared at all of those tariffs ….so Trudeau didn’t do an horrible job .
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12-03-2024 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
And putting Canada (and Mexico) last. So as a presumably proud Canadian who presumably loves his country, why exactly are you cheering on Trump as he is threatening to absolutely decimate Canada in economic warfare????

Before Bobo had great quotes of you claiming - hilariously - that Trump would be good for Canada. Now that we know he is going to be TERRIBLE for Canada, are you willing to say you were wrong?

Which side are you even on?
I’m not cheering for the USA I’m cheering for Canada

I’ll wait and see how Trump is for Canadas economy I know Trudeau is screwing it over
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12-03-2024 , 06:24 PM
If Trump implements a 25% tariff do you think it would be good or bad for the Canadian economy?

Do you think the effect is more or less impactful than the carbon tax?

These two questions should be VERY easy to answer. I hope you don't fail.
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12-03-2024 , 06:27 PM
Finally something I like being put into law .
Hopefully it passes in Quebec …

Doctors coming from the Quebec education system ( extremely cheap compare to others) will have to commit a minimum of 5 years into the public system before being able to practice in the private sector .

A small return for the social Contract seem adequate (and needed) at this point .
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12-03-2024 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
If Trump implements a 25% tariff do you think it would be good or bad for the Canadian economy?

Do you think the effect is more or less impactful than the carbon tax?

These two questions should be VERY easy to answer. I hope you don't fail.
It’s gonna be horror for the economy and of course it will effect Canada much worse than the carbon tax

Imagine if Alberta had the capabilities to refine their own oil which I fault Alberta for and imagine more pipelines that would allow Alberta to get it’s resources to other markets

Rob Ford is also right that comparing Canada to Mexico is nuts

Let’s wait and see what happens lots of leaders say things they never follow up on like
Electoral reform
Transparency
Clean drinking water in 4 years
White Christmas
No forest fires
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12-04-2024 , 12:18 AM
President Trump has his eye on Canada!

He's ready to formally (as opposed to forcefully) make it the 51st state of the United States (or the first province of the United States).





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12-04-2024 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
It’s gonna be horror for the economy and of course it will effect Canada much worse than the carbon tax
Ok. But why on earth were you previously saying you thought Trump would be good for Canada? And just one post ago saying you would "wait and see"? Like OBVIOUSLY it is going to be a horror. Why did you waffle for so long?


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No forest fires
I like how your post just descends worse and worse into inane conspiratorial whataboutisms. Like this both has nothing at all to do with the topic (how on earth did you get from trump tarrifs to this????) while also being such a fantastical figment of your imagination. No, lozen, your nemesis never said there be no forest fires ever and only white christmases. Ffs.
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12-04-2024 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
And putting Canada (and Mexico) last. So as a presumably proud Canadian who presumably loves his country, why exactly are you cheering on Trump as he is threatening to absolutely decimate Canada in economic warfare????

Before Bobo had great quotes of you claiming - hilariously - that Trump would be good for Canada. Now that we know he is going to be TERRIBLE for Canada, are you willing to say you were wrong?

Which side are you even on?
Who is cheering on Trump to destroy Canada . I do not remember you being vocal when Biden increased tariffs on softwood lumber, drywall and other construction materials.

Ill wait till Trump serves a year and than decide which President was better .

Go Canada
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12-04-2024 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Who is cheering on Trump to destroy Canada .
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Originally Posted by lozen
Hey I want Trump to win its better for Canada
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Originally Posted by also lozen
It’s gonna be horror for the economy
It's like your brain can't process your own words about Trump. You cheered him on. You thought he would be better. As soon as he announced what he actually would do you realized it would be a horror.



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I do not remember you being vocal when Biden increased tariffs on softwood lumber, drywall and other construction materials.

Ill wait till Trump serves a year and than decide which President was better
Lmao. One president has a few tarrifs on a few narrow things, the other a 25% tarrif on everyuthing, and you need a year to decide which is worse for Canada?

The benefit of the doubt you extend to your political side is hilarious.
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12-05-2024 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Ok. But why on earth were you previously saying you thought Trump would be good for Canada? And just one post ago saying you would "wait and see"? Like OBVIOUSLY it is going to be a horror. Why did you waffle for so long?
Canada is currently being run by a hostile regime (UK as well), a government majority of Canadians no longer want that's being propped up by a side deal with another left-wing party with no election date in sight. Without a Trump win Trudeau never would have addressed the border/immigration issues, it's already a win for Canadians.
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12-05-2024 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Canada is currently being run by a hostile regime (UK as well), a government majority of Canadians no longer want that's being propped up by a side deal with another left-wing party with no election date in sight. Without a Trump win Trudeau never would have addressed the border/immigration issues, it's already a win for Canadians.
Without a Trump win YOU would never have addressed “border” issues. Remember, you didn’t. This wasn’t a top 50 political issue for you or your party. So it’s pretty hilarious seeing you immediately jump on the issue as if the 8800km unsecured border that has been unsecured for the entirety of its existence suddenly is some disastrous policy issue that needs fixing.

Immigration of course is entirely different issue, lol at causally tossing that in, and for that Trudeau’s extensive clamping down on immigration all happpened BEFORE Trump for elected. Wrong again.

The start of your post is just rambling nonsense. All sorts of elected governments are unpopular at the end of their terms. Harper was wildly unpopular at the end. As was Biden. As with Trump. They all have an election date FIRMLY in sight, it’s just you want an even earlier one. That doesn’t make it “hostile” and it has nothing at all to do with Trump being good for Canada.

Again, the reason Trump is objectively bad for Canada is he threatened an economy destroying 25% tariff. Why dance around this?
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12-05-2024 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Without a Trump win YOU would never have addressed “border” issues. Remember, you didn’t. This wasn’t a top 50 political issue for you or your party. So it’s pretty hilarious seeing you immediately jump on the issue as if the 8800km unsecured border that has been unsecured for the entirety of its existence suddenly is some disastrous policy issue that needs fixing.

Immigration of course is entirely different issue, lol at causally tossing that in, and for that Trudeau’s extensive clamping down on immigration all happpened BEFORE Trump for elected. Wrong again.

The start of your post is just rambling nonsense. All sorts of elected governments are unpopular at the end of their terms. Harper was wildly unpopular at the end. As was Biden. As with Trump. They all have an election date FIRMLY in sight, it’s just you want an even earlier one. That doesn’t make it “hostile” and it has nothing at all to do with Trump being good for Canada.

Again, the reason Trump is objectively bad for Canada is he threatened an economy destroying 25% tariff. Why dance around this?
You do realize Trudeau created the immigration problem so he really does not get credit for fixing it . Its like Trudeau started a Forest Fire it burnt down a town and than he sent fire trucks in and you want to credit him for that

Here is a question for you as I agree a 25% Tariff would harm Canada and Fentanyl has always been a top issue for me .

Do proposed Cap emissions limits hurt the Oil Industry?

Last edited by lozen; 12-05-2024 at 01:26 PM.
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12-05-2024 , 01:21 PM
I think trump has little to do with Canadians being anti immigration lately . "not top 50" i donno man you leave in a different world
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12-05-2024 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
You do realize Trudeau created the immigration problem so he really does not get credit for fixing it . Its like Trudeau started a Forest Fire it burnt down a town and than he sent fire trucks in and you want to credit him for that
Well, the immigration was there to solve a very real and significant problem of lack of workers in the post-pandemic period, and everyone from business leaders to conservative premiers were demanding more workers - and Trudeau delivered. One can say they slightly overshot (remember their proposed cuts to 360,000 leads to population DECLINE we are so reliant on immigration) but mostly this is a story of Trudeau correctly increasing immigration when it needed to be increased and correctly decreasing immigration when it needed to be decreased and generally correctly responding to changing circumstances.

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Here is a question for you as I agree a 25% Tariff would harm Canada and Fentanyl has always been a top issue for me .
That's great, but does any part of you actually think you can "secure the border" to solve the fentanyl crisis? Like we've seen the effect of the massive war on drugs in the US and how this has utterly failed at actually helping drug users. Fentanyl is a high up issue to me too, but I don't think any serious experts on that crisis think that of the suite of policy tools available there is any realistic way of solving it by spending trillions securing the border.

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Originally Posted by lozen
Do proposed Cap emissions limits hurt the Oil Industry?
To a degree. But we need to end reliance on oil industry regardles. The emissions cap is not a production cap, we can actually increase production from current levels and depending on how effective the industry is at reducing their emissions while drilling they can increase production a decent amount. Reducing emissions is important work, so this is all excellent.
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12-05-2024 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
I think trump has little to do with Canadians being anti immigration lately . "not top 50" i donno man you leave in a different world
I suspect you are confusing immigration and border security. Immigration to Canada is a major political issue. Border security - prior to Trump's threat to decimate Canada's economy - was not. That Canada has an extremely porous border with the US and that is mostly fine has been the consensus position of all parties on both sides of the border since forever.
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12-05-2024 , 09:25 PM
oh the border. well of course we should care about the border because of trump. he's literally threatening tariff's..... Seems like a good reason to start caring to me
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12-05-2024 , 10:47 PM
FWIW here is a summary from cbc , you the know the bias liberals news channel that always put Trudeau in a good light ….

Some might be surprise .

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12-05-2024 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
FWIW here is a summary from cbc , you the know the bias liberals news channel that always put Trudeau in a good light ….

Some might be surprise .

I haven’t watched this one yet but this guy does a good take on other stories he covers . Did a good analysis of Hunter Pardon
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12-06-2024 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
oh the border. well of course we should care about the border because of trump. he's literally threatening tariff's..... Seems like a good reason to start caring to me
Indeed. We all have to this big song and dance routine of buying a few helicopters and drones and pretending to VERY SERIOUSLY take the SECURE THE BORDER chants seriously to hopefully appease Trump into only having crippling tarrifs apply for 6 months and not 4 years. Hopefully. But the adults in the room behind closed doors and still note that obviously an 8800km largely open border isn't going to be magically secured and fentanyl suddenly stop going over the border even if the US and Canada spent trillions over a decade.
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12-06-2024 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Indeed. We all have to this big song and dance routine of buying a few helicopters and drones and pretending to VERY SERIOUSLY take the SECURE THE BORDER chants seriously to hopefully appease Trump into only having crippling tarrifs apply for 6 months and not 4 years. Hopefully. But the adults in the room behind closed doors and still note that obviously an 8800km largely open border isn't going to be magically secured and fentanyl suddenly stop going over the border even if the US and Canada spent trillions over a decade.
It seems as per the CBC piece that the bigger issue is the amount of folks coming into Canada than attempting to cross into Canada that are than caught by the USA and appear on a terror watch list. I think the number was like 512 to Mexico's 1000 . The other issue is the lack of vetting on Visas

Are you correct that a few drones and helicopters is going to stop the fentanyl of course not. We cant even keep drugs out of our prisons. Until the USA declares the cartels terrorists nothing is going to change .

Thanks for sharing that Montreal watched it last night
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12-06-2024 , 07:37 PM
I agree the CBC explainer was excellent (they really do fantastic journalism, so thankful we have a national broadcaster like them). But here's my core point. There is not one single factoid in that explainer that justifies or could ever come close to justified economic nuclear war of a 25% across the board tariff. I'm not a particular fan of American-style security state apparatus, but if one wants to make the case that Canada should have some slightly tweaked border policies that inch it in that direction ok fine, sure, whatever, take all the Ws on that debate you want. Nothing about that could ever justify said tariffs.

I don't even think trump thinks so. I think he wants to put tariffs on Canada and Mexico. As he says, he wants to balance the budget (lol) on them. This is an excuse. Is there some glimmers of truth in the excuse? Sure. There are tweaks that could and potentially should be made. But nothing about this justifies the horrors of a 25% tariff. This is the kind of issue that diplomats in barely-covered-it-is-so-boring meets should be addressing.
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12-06-2024 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
It seems as per the CBC piece that the bigger issue is the amount of folks coming into Canada than attempting to cross into Canada that are than caught by the USA and appear on a terror watch list. I think the number was like 512 to Mexico's 1000 . The other issue is the lack of vetting on Visas

Are you correct that a few drones and helicopters is going to stop the fentanyl of course not. We cant even keep drugs out of our prisons. Until the USA declares the cartels terrorists nothing is going to change .

Thanks for sharing that Montreal watched it last night
I’m surprised u think it isn’t bias since it’s from cbc ….
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12-06-2024 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I’m surprised u think it isn’t bias since it’s from cbc ….
I’ve actually watched other pieces from him and always impressed on how he handles the topic giving you both sides of the argument . I personally find Vassy on CTV to be the best in CDN news and enjoy The Front Bench .
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