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11-26-2023 , 02:07 PM

#9576

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Originally Posted by jbouton

Lets not move on, lets adjudicate the facts, and ban whoever is wrong between me and Uke.

I have no problem doing this if you're serious, or you can just move on.

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11-26-2023 , 02:17 PM

#9577

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Originally Posted by ganstaman

I have no problem doing this if you're serious, or you can just move on.

You aren't saying polivere said that he was citing CTV in the house.

No one is. There are no words where he said this.

The accustation first of all, is that he IMPLICITLY said this.

Do we agree? I ask this to all.

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11-26-2023 , 02:19 PM

#9578

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Originally Posted by lozen

Spoiler:

this is too many words for the impartial observer.

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11-26-2023 , 02:27 PM

#9579

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Originally Posted by jbouton

We are going in circles, so the conversation has to end now. Some of us are saying that he later said he was citing CTV. You disagree. There is video where he explains, so everyone is able to listen and decide for themselves. It's not productive to continue going back and forth m

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11-26-2023 , 02:50 PM

#9580

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Originally Posted by ganstaman

If you are declaring that he SAID he was citing CTV then you need provide the verbatim quote where he says this. Because he didn't say it. And I don't have to prove the negative, you have to prove your assertion, that is how reasonable and sincere dialogue among reasonable and sincere persons works.

Getting into a debate about a provable reality and then when people won't agree with your false assertion and then coming in as a mod and saying 'you will get banned if you keep talking about this' is the problem with the world today.

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11-26-2023 , 02:51 PM

#9581

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Who should adjudicate the truth here?

I would like to see if boba fett is willing to assert that PP said that he was citing CTV in the house commons.

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11-27-2023 , 01:19 PM

#9582

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Originally Posted by jbouton

Who should adjudicate the truth here?

I would like to see if boba fett is willing to assert that PP said that he was citing CTV in the house commons.

And again it’s so meaningless, I don’t think a future PM should start using media flash news for terrorist and national security issue to defend us .
Wherever he took it and I don’t think it was a general mainstream news about being a terrorist attack .
Can u name any media that was promoting it ?

Ps:If it was from foxnews then u have all the info u need ….

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11-27-2023 , 06:50 PM

#9583

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Question did CP ir CTV report the border incident as terrorism ?

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11-27-2023 , 08:29 PM

#9584

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Depends exactly what you mean by "report as terrorism"

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CTV News reported,(opens in a new tab) citing national security sources, that government officials were operating under the assumption that the incident at the Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls, was terror-related.

This breaking information was first reported on CTV News approximately 15 minutes after Poilievre rose in the House to ask Trudeau about "media reports about a terrorist attack."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/feds...mark-1.6657992

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11-27-2023 , 08:40 PM

#9585

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Have you ****ing listened to what he said in the house? Yes?

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11-27-2023 , 09:02 PM

#9586

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Originally Posted by jbouton

Have you ****ing listened to what he said in the house? Yes?

Yes I did .
I don’t think u read well what others are saying .

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11-27-2023 , 09:03 PM

#9587

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Originally Posted by uke_master

Depends exactly what you mean by "report as terrorism"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/feds...mark-1.6657992

So we have a post saying how irresponsible Fox News was to assume it was terrorism than the same should be said about CTV ??

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11-27-2023 , 09:16 PM

#9588

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Originally Posted by lozen

So we have a post saying how irresponsible Fox News was to assume it was terrorism than the same should be said about CTV ??

U know what the meaning « after » means right ?

« This breaking information was first reported on CTV News approximately 15 minutes after Poilievre rose in the House to ask Trudeau. »

Shouldn’t ctv report what polievre says ?
If polievre took his media source from foxnews originally in the house , well blame him even more !

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11-27-2023 , 09:16 PM

#9589

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Yes I did .
I don’t think u read well what others are saying .

You have a problem with this?

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Originally Posted by Poilievre

We've just heard media reports of a terrorist attack explosion...2 people dead one injured, it is the the principle responsibility of government, can the prime minister give us an update on what he knows...

What is going on with you two!!!!!?

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11-27-2023 , 09:20 PM

#9590

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Originally Posted by jbouton

You have a problem with this?

What is going on with you two!!!!!?

Which medias was he referencing ?

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11-27-2023 , 09:23 PM

#9591

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Which medias was he referencing ?

He wasn't asked what media he was referencing, he was accused of being the source of the misinformation.

He answered the accusation with "I said MEDIA REPORTS...."

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11-27-2023 , 09:30 PM

#9592

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Which medias was he referencing ?

He didn't answer this question. It would be our guess.

His response was to say if you are going to go after me for something I didn't do, are you going to go after CTV for doing what you are accusing me of?

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11-27-2023 , 09:31 PM

#9593

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Originally Posted by jbouton

He wasn't asked what media he was referencing, he was accused of being the source of the misinformation.

He answered the accusation with "I said MEDIA REPORTS...."

And for terrorist attack and national security u have no problems With that ?
Especially when Not surprisingly it ends up being wrong ?

Ps: I wonder which media’s he was referencing to begin with ….
Maybe a known garbage medias known to be a large source of misinformation to begin with ?
Is that a brillant course of action ?

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11-27-2023 , 10:01 PM

#9594

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

But when events happen, and especially if there is such a rumour going around, we do want the opposition to stand up and ask for clarification right? I am on ****ing glue?!

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11-28-2023 , 10:34 AM

#9595

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Great opinion article for Danielle Smith . Just leave things be Justin Trudeau will commit political suicide with his fake climate program . I added in the word fake its not in the article

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other...ea4ed9d2&ei=12

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11-28-2023 , 02:49 PM

#9596

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

What in the **** are you thinking this proves?

I'm not sure what you're finding so difficult to understand about this. NHL players are wearing neck guards right. ****ing. now. The Pittsburgh Penguins have mandated them for their minor league hockey players. Many other NHL players are trying them out during practice.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/10/sport...ntl/index.html

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsb...eck-guard-game

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...s-at-practice/

LDO. So what? Accidents happen.

"still" - WTF are you talking about? I've never suggested he did, and whether he did or not is irrelevant to this bizarre conversation.

Bobo, there are about 2500 active NHL players and the number of them playing with a neckguards is exactly 0.

Some Pittsburg Penguins players "tried" one on. Of these 3 one is Oshie, the owner of a company that makes protective hockey gear. Johnson played for the penguins from 2017 till 2000. that's why probably his former team tried them on.
if you read your one article there one player took it of again half game, saying too uncomfortable and restricting. yeah accidents happen but never like this. (in 100 years of hockey on 3 continents)

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11-28-2023 , 03:36 PM

#9597

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Originally Posted by lozen

Great opinion article for Danielle Smith . Just leave things be Justin Trudeau will commit political suicide with his fake climate program . I added in the word fake its not in the article

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other...ea4ed9d2&ei=12

Lmao smith is such a comical farce. These are draft regulations - nothing official yet. And they don't come into effect until 2035! Imagine the performative theater of setting up your inept sovereignty act that will likely fail most court challenges, and using as your first move a not-yet-written-not-yet-imposed 2035 regulation.

And then!

Promising to make a ****ing crown corporation to buy up and making electricity using fossil fuels. Imagine if the NDP proposed privatizing a market segment this way, it would be outrage, but oh no if it is fossil fuels definitely need the government to buy it up. Pathetic.

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11-28-2023 , 03:41 PM

#9598

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Originally Posted by washoe

Bobo, there are about 2500 active NHL players and the number of them playing with a neckguards is exactly 0.

Sigh.

https://www.ginohard.com/nhl-players...r-neck-guards/

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11-28-2023 , 03:53 PM

#9599

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Sigh.

https://www.ginohard.com/nhl-players...r-neck-guards/

from this article:

first player:
The blueliner wore neck guards growing up in Sweden and on the international stage, but stopped using them when he joined the NHL in 2018, saying he found them too uncomfortable.

Dahlin decided to try out a neck guard against the Flyers in response to Johnson’s death, but ended up taking it off halfway through the game as he found it too warm and restrictive. He told reporters he’s hoping equipment manufacturers will develop “something nicer in the near future” – a neck guard that is lightweight and breathable

will be wear again? doesn't sound like he will imo. but we'll see.

second guy

Oshie’s neck guard designed was by his own company, Warroad Hockey, which provides a cut-resistant turtleneck base layer. The Capitals’s forward previously stated earlier in the week he planned to try out neck protection in response to Johnson’s death. Oshie made good on his words in the game against the Islanders.

didn't even wear his own before this incident, furore will tell if he will.

3rd guy, he is actually wearing one Now. so I stand to be corrected.

Detroit Red Wings defenseman Jake Walman is wearing a neck guard following the tragic passing of Adam Johnson. Walman first wore the neck guard on November 4th in a game against the Boston Bruins and has worn it every game since.

yeah ok there are some players wearing it. let's see for how long.