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08-18-2023 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I guess we’re just starting .
Carbon tax is just ONE tools of many .

And it’s funny u don’t believe on when prices goes high , it’s usually when human ingenuity comes in full display .
Not during complacent period …

Fwiw trudeau can just put policies in action, he can’t force people to do it .
Shouldn’t u be happy ?
he isn’t a dictator like u love to claim ?
No he can
He forced individuals to get vaccinated
He forced provinces to charge the carbon tax
Man the list could go on but he was elected under our current system so the only way to remove him is in a democratic election. Sadly we are unable to impeach him

I joke about being a dictator but he is an Authoritarian Narcissist
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08-18-2023 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
lol, no shifty, nobody is saying that. Like buddy you couldn't even figure out that in the metaphor the “temperature” was about the ****ing bath water lol
What were you implying then? What do people that vote for Pollivere and want to end the carbons tax not have a right to complain about?
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08-18-2023 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Human were living ok before the creation of oil .
That could be the dumbest post in this entire thread. Literally every measurable metric for humans has improved because of oil/fossil fuels.
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08-18-2023 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No he can
He forced individuals to get vaccinated
He forced provinces to charge the carbon tax
Man the list could go on but he was elected under our current system so the only way to remove him is in a democratic election. Sadly we are unable to impeach him

I joke about being a dictator but he is an Authoritarian Narcissist
Well I guess obligating people to pay taxes is authoritarian too shrug.
Fwiw Not all provinces were forced too .
Some decide by themselves to join a carbon tax system .

I won’t speak about vaccines cause oblivious not all Canadians were obligated to take the vaccines …
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08-18-2023 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
That could be the dumbest post in this entire thread. Literally every measurable metric for humans has improved because of oil/fossil fuels.
U might not understand the definition of the meaning of the words ok , shrug .
If it was that bad , why people enjoy so much camping , going to hunt in forest cabin , going up north to disconnect from the city , etc ….?

Remember the discussion ?
we are taking about the « extinction » of mankind narrative without oil right ?
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08-19-2023 , 03:48 PM


Since I give Lozen a hard time once in a while, figure I would toss him a gift. I even chose a Twitter / X account with a million followers instead of the fringy no follower stuff Shifty posts often! I will point out that the manipulation of this video is so blatant that I think they take pride in how they chose to intentionally color treat it and also work it so that Trudeau has that zombie waxy look going (Biden videos get that treatment a lot more as his age and look already have him appear to be more zombie like in reality than Trudeau). How they cut between scenes could be improved as well, but again they did not have being subtle with the edit in their agenda. The chopping full statements to get the word sequences they can present without proper context is pretty standard.

I do kind of wonder if they presented this without the over the top editing if it would have more impact, but I assume these people know their audience.

Still, Lozen - enjoy!
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08-19-2023 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
What were you implying then? What do people that vote for Pollivere and want to end the carbons tax not have a right to complain about?
Yikes, having to explain basic metaphors do you is exhausting. I was talking to lozen not any generic poilievre supporter. Lozen used to quibble about minor implementation details of the carbon tax without opposing a price in carbon. Now that he has lurched to the right and joined you, poilievre, and the other do-nothing-head-in-sand no price on carbon folks there is no point pretending he actually cares about the minor implementation details (temperature of the bath water) when he wants to get rid of any price on carbon full stop (throwing out the baby with the bathwater).

Do you need me to hold your hand through anything else?
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08-20-2023 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Yikes, having to explain basic metaphors do you is exhausting. I was talking to lozen not any generic poilievre supporter. Lozen used to quibble about minor implementation details of the carbon tax without opposing a price in carbon. Now that he has lurched to the right and joined you, poilievre, and the other do-nothing-head-in-sand no price on carbon folks there is no point pretending he actually cares about the minor implementation details (temperature of the bath water) when he wants to get rid of any price on carbon full stop (throwing out the baby with the bathwater).

Do you need me to hold your hand through anything else?
I have never supported the carbon tax I have commented on how I would administer it differently under the authoritarian rule of Justin Trudeau
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08-20-2023 , 11:55 AM
You can't really expect anyone to take your (bad) takes about how to tweak the carbon tax seriously when your policy position is to not attempt to put any price of any form in any system on carbon pollution. The good news is Poilievre is 100% aligned with you from a policy perspective! So even though he lies through his teeth (something you claim to hate but only when your enemy does it) he is totally your boy to vote for!
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08-20-2023 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You can't really expect anyone to take your (bad) takes about how to tweak the carbon tax seriously when your policy position is to not attempt to put any price of any form in any system on carbon pollution. The good news is Poilievre is 100% aligned with you from a policy perspective! So even though he lies through his teeth (something you claim to hate but only when your enemy does it) he is totally your boy to vote for!
Yes but were supposed to respect the Climate Phony Justin. Pierre Lies

No the champion of non stop lies is

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08-20-2023 , 01:27 PM
Cool whataboutism lozen!

Pause that video at :31. Which part of that chart are you particularly mad at? Although it is a bit amusing to see conservative MPs fecklessly pretend they give a **** about anything to do with the climate while supporting their zero-plan leader Poilievre. Hey, no wonder you like Stubbs' youtube account so much!
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08-20-2023 , 01:31 PM
Let's try this. Lozen, do you think Poilievre should:

a) Pledge 2 billion trees by 2035.
b) have no target
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08-20-2023 , 02:55 PM
When people are about to denounce a prime minister because he didn’t plant enough trees and make a big deal out if it ……
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08-20-2023 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
When people are about to denounce a prime minister because he didn’t plant enough trees and make a big deal out if it ……
If you watch the video it highlights more of his broken promises

The thing is Justin promises everything in 7-10-15 years . With no plan to get there
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08-20-2023 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
If you watch the video it highlights more of his broken promises

The thing is Justin promises everything in 7-10-15 years . With no plan to get there
Trudeau is a politician right ?
Now you telling us politicians are in the habits of respecting all their promises ?

At one point if you are that naive maybe you derserved to be lied too ( which is probably how trump is still loved by a big portion of the republicans electorate)….

Fwiw maybe sometimes the situation ( political, social, economical, etc) cannot warrant an accomplishment of some promises you know ?

It’s fine to point at trudeau for missed promises (electorate reform for example) but when it comes around such insignificant details as planting trees ???

If trudeau is that bad surely there is better arguments then trees.

Ps: I usually watch all videos but lately it’s so poor quality of argumentation I’m not sure I’m Interested too
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08-20-2023 , 05:04 PM
Lol at lozen’s utter failure to identify anything wrong either the chart I mentioned, nor articulate what he even thinks poilievre should pledge. It’s just an empty talking point to find some “lie” (about a promise not due until 2030) with zero interest in the underlying policy.

Great whataboutism!
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08-20-2023 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
If you watch the video it highlights more of his broken promises

The thing is Justin promises everything in 7-10-15 years . With no plan to get there
If you play this game with Trump (in particular), Harper, or Ford you're going to discover something the rest of us already know. It's something you should already know.
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08-21-2023 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Cool whataboutism lozen!

Pause that video at :31. Which part of that chart are you particularly mad at? Although it is a bit amusing to see conservative MPs fecklessly pretend they give a **** about anything to do with the climate while supporting their zero-plan leader Poilievre. Hey, no wonder you like Stubbs' youtube account so much!
Yes lets look at that graph he exceeded first year predictions and fell dramatically short in the second year. Lets just guess he will not hit third year goals lets go to 1:11 were we just get some of his major broken promises.

Reality is you talk about Pierre's lies yet Trudeau has accumulated 10 fold yet you never talk about his lies
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08-21-2023 , 11:17 AM
The man is just incompetent at getting anything done. I hear he plans to make the appointments by 2038

His own government funded media says it

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...666706624&ei=8


Start at 1:27 for more lies from JT. The big lie the carbon tax puts money in your pocket


Last edited by lozen; 08-21-2023 at 11:24 AM.
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08-21-2023 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Yes lets look at that graph he exceeded first year predictions and fell dramatically short in the second year. Lets just guess he will not hit third year goals lets go to 1:11 were we just get some of his major broken promises.

Reality is you talk about Pierre's lies yet Trudeau has accumulated 10 fold yet you never talk about his lies
It’s pretty stupid to call it a lie. The government reported early ITT being ahead of its target for 2023, your chart shows ahead of target in 2021 and behind in 2022. It’s a decade long promise. So to sit and call it a “lie” is just silly. If every not-yet-complete government target is considered a lie then every government by every party everywhere is just “lying”. It reduces the meaning of the word.


But also, the policy is great, right? You support the government planting more trees, right? It is shameful that poilievre doesn’t have this policy, right? Planting a lot of trees and missing a lofty target is better than not planting any, right?
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08-21-2023 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
It’s pretty stupid to call it a lie. The government reported early ITT being ahead of its target for 2023, your chart shows ahead of target in 2021 and behind in 2022. It’s a decade long promise. So to sit and call it a “lie” is just silly. If every not-yet-complete government target is considered a lie then every government by every party everywhere is just “lying”. It reduces the meaning of the word.


But also, the policy is great, right? You support the government planting more trees, right? It is shameful that poilievre doesn’t have this policy, right? Planting a lot of trees and missing a lofty target is better than not planting any, right?
Agreed and the MP planting here own trees is great. Trees are great. Missing your target in year two not great
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08-21-2023 , 12:55 PM
So just checking in, you're going to support the zero trees no plan guy as opposed to the planting lots of trees exceeding targets in years 1 and 3 but missing them in years 2 guy, right?
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08-21-2023 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
So just checking in, you're going to support the zero trees no plan guy as opposed to the planting lots of trees exceeding targets in years 1 and 3 but missing them in years 2 guy, right?
Please show me the link were he says he will shut down the tree planting program?
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08-21-2023 , 03:18 PM
Justin's mad. Hmm maybe you should have thought of that when you tried to Bully Meta into your terms

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...957e3af86&ei=8
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08-21-2023 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
when you tried to Bully Meta into your terms
That's...interesting phrasing.

So, you were strongly against Bill C-18 before it passed? Sincere question, as I don't recall if you had an issue with this. I was out of the country when they passed it so wasn't keeping as much track then.
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