Would you agree to this statements

Under Stephen Harper crime showed a significant steadily decline
Under Justin Trudeau crime has showed a significant steadily increase

Does lozen not realize other things happen in society and in the economy beyond who the PM is? That things can get better or worse on a particular metric and that the absolute number is not the sole responsibility of the prime minister?

No I get it Good Things that happen are because of the PM . Bad Things that happen are beyond his control and not his fault or they never read the e-mail

Stop projecting. Just because you are jumping aboard the train that if you can find a statistic that is worse (while still below historic trends) then you will skewer your hated Trudeau over it regardless of how much influence he actually had on it doesn't mean I do the same. I don't do the opposite of you. I don't make your errors in reverse.

Well if u blame trudeau for all of this , like inflation for example , I will give trudeau it’s props for this ….

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...-fiscal-update

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Yeah the economy sucks under jt !

I would and I did …..
What I don’t adhere to is to say Canada under jt is worst in that aspect because still today , jt numbers are not higher then historical trend ….
And Canada never be known to be a violent country before .

You do realize under JT

He banned many firearms saying crime would go down and gun violence and in the same breath reduced sentences for gun crimes. When you let the hardened criminals go you may get increased crime

Hey the roller coaster price of oil Imagine how big the surplus would be with more pipelines and a greater access to market

Lets not forget the poll that Had JT as the worst PM

I forgot to point this out but this might be one of the funniest talking point from shifty( and I guess from polievre too..? )

Same Mistake like lozen , complaint on stuff just for complaining .

First off , housing regulation is mostly a provincial issue not a federal one .
That is why some provinces have much higher issues then other .
So if u want to complain shifty complain on your provincial PM ..

Second off , right winger complain about high house prices ?
Those that hold a house , which mostly for all Canadian an house is the base of their net worth ) they have too much assets value ?????
They are too rich ????


Lol !
How many time I hear ,
if people can’t afford stuff it’s because they don’t work hard enough from the right ?
Is shifty and polievre became socialist now , caring about others wallets and how they cant afford stuff ?

Fwiw I don’t have data to back this up but it wouldn’t surprise me that Airbnb have something to do with the lack of available rental housing for Canadians.

That’s fair but the trend started in 2015 ……
So that have nothing to do with it or not much right ?

Lots of great points than what your saying is the PM really can't pledge to build 1.4 million homes nor can he make housing more affordable as he can't control the costs of land or materials

So what in fact he is doing is lying?

Trust me as a home builder I cant even give folks a cost on a home instead I am building on a lot cost and a % of construction costs.

Great dreams but who got the capital for it ?
Why u think jt had to step in to buy one and finish it ?
Btw more u produce , lower the price.
Where is the surplus then ?

I will tell u a secret , oil industries were very happy and making record profits the way it is now ….
Why would they spend tens of billions in profit while not being sure prices will stay elevated ?
And look today , prices drop almost 50% !
As a shareholder I tell u I am very happy they didn’t waste my dividend in building more pipelines ….

If u want jt to help provinces fix their housing mismanagement that’s fine !
But don’t blame jt for it ffs, right ?

And I’m glad you have socialist blood in your vein ,
even tho we are crumbling under debts and yet ready to borrow more to help others all around Canada …..

Your not answering my question I am acknowledging the fact Justin Trudeau has very little impact on making housing affordable nor can he pledge to build 1.4 million homes

So what I am asking you is he than lying when he says he can do these things?

I still believe we must provide a support system to the less fortunate to a point

I don’t understand.
I don’t follow much jt .

What did he say or How his he lying by wanting to help provinces for housing ?

lol poilievre making a fool of himself. Releases a statement calling on labour minister to resign over BC port negotiations. Offers zero suggestions of what to do differently. Hours later new tentative agreement with no strike. Oops.

A great illustration of the issue. Banning firearms can both make a small positive RELATIVE difference while at the same time the ABSOLUTE numbers are getting worse for a range of socioeconomic factors unrelated to that specific policy. Similarly, it might be that bail reforms are good or bad, but just pointing at headline numbers doesn’t demonstrate your case, just your laziness.

Hopefully ( which I know they won’t ) those port worker’s will remember how polievre was against them ….

Hey I have been clear on this and approve on how Justin Trudeau has handled this and disagree with Pierre's position on this .


Though it's funny as incompetent and all the lies you say Pierre puts out he's leading Justin by 10 points in polls

I don't know that that is particularly "funny". After 8 years, a pandemic, inflation, housing costs and no small number of minor scandals along the way it is pretty clear the current government is getting very long in the tooth. Most Canadians - rather like most Americans - are pretty politically ignorant, don't pay attention, have little grasp of effective policy, and are going to take out their grievances of their own pocket books on whoever the current government is.

And Poilievre has indicated he has absolutely zero shame of lying to those people to try and score political points. So I'm not at all surprised if he wins a plurality in the next election, but I don't think you should take this as some moral victory that your climate change head-in-the-sand non-plan or anything else for that matter.

Remember, after 8 years of Obama, americans elected Trump. Trudeau isn't as good as Obama and Poilievre isn't as bad as trump, but the dynamic is still there.

That's your view many see after 8 years it's been filled with broken promises , higher cost of living

Hey the reason Trudeau did so well on the port strike is as he is very good and sitting back at doing nothing but talk a good game

Saw some of the comments on Trudeau's bandaged forehead this one was the best

Grandpa jokes are the key to winning elections! Well, I suppose it did work 40 years ago with "Where's the beef?"

Hey I was just wondering earlier today what the stupidest take about Trudeau getting a minor injury would be, thought I was going to have to check out the twitter derposphere but looks like lozen did my research for me already. Thanks lozen!

He's the leader of the country. It's his job to take care of its citizens. Whether it's his fault (I believe it is) or not it's what he signed up for. Opposition and people that do not like him have every right and should to use it against him.


You are right, people are busy and have their own issues to worry about. Majority of people just want to be left alone to have the ability to provide for their families and pay bills, when that becomes difficult politically ignorant people blame the leader.

It's politics, not like the Liberals are notorious for running clean campaigns every elections. The last 2 should have been easy wins for the Conservatives but they ran 2 duds as leaders. Pollivere is doing what has to be done.

And Trump became the most popular President in American history. Because politically ignorant people could afford to raise a family and pay bills.