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06-08-2023 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You must not have read it very well as it answers your question:
Does it not prove lozens statement that I quoted that fires are the worse they've ever been because of climate change is wrong?


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Originally Posted by uke_master
See, the big difference between when I'm being (obviously) hyperbolic and when you are, is that I actually have the facts behind me when it is time to make the nuanced statements.
Lol what are the fact? That a carbon tax will stop forest fires that haven't increased as population grows, tree's grow more outdoor activities happen? The last paragraph from the paper:

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When we talk about fire risk it is important to keep in mind that we are focusing on reducing the potential impacts of fire on humans. We cannot completely remove fire from the landscape - that is the misconception that led to the ‘100% fire suppression’ policies in the US and elsewhere that have made things worse in many cases. Not letting a fire burn often makes the next fire worse, as by then even more fuel will have accumulated. Society needs to understand that we live on a flammable planet where fire has been shaping ecosystems for over 400 millions years. It will be still here in the future, no matter what we do, so we need to acknowledge this and learn to co-exist. It is logistically not feasible, nor ecologically appropriate, to reduce the flammability of all areas of forests or other wildland vegetation that is susceptible to fire.
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06-08-2023 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Does it not prove lozens statement that I quoted that fires are the worse they've ever been because of climate change is wrong?
Nope. You failed to read the article. Here let me quote again: "There is strong evidence that the increase in fire activity we are seeing in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change".

Unfortunately, a distinction between fires in savannahs and forests leads to a statistics that is being - as the authors note - is being "misused" by people like, well, you. All of this is explain in the article.



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Originally Posted by Shifty86
more trees (thanks CO2),
...
tree's grow more
Yikes. Skill testing question. Do you think there are more or less forests on earth now than, say, 30 years ago?
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06-08-2023 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Nope. You failed to read the article. Here let me quote again: "There is strong evidence that the increase in fire activity we are seeing in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change".
Being a weasel and continuing saying this doesn't make it true. If you continue read it also says this:

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Having said that, it is very important to acknowledge that it is not only climate change, but other human actions that increase the fire problem in many regions of the world. For example, in North America, there has been a huge growth in the Wildland-Urban Interface (where houses are near or within vegetated areas, such as forest) over the last few decades. Living surrounded by vegetation may be attractive, but it is the worst place to build a house from a fire risk perspective.

In parts of Europe, a key human driver is the change in land-use. Large areas that used to be agricultural or grazing lands are now abandoned and often replaced by more flammable forest or shrubland. If you picture for example an abandoned grassland transitioning (by natural vegetation succession) into dense heathland it is easy to realise why that makes the fire problem worse.

Other human factors that contribute to a worsening fire problem include arson and accidental ignitions, which is how the majority of fires start in the more densely populated parts of the world. In addition, very aggressive fire suppression policies over much of the 20th century have removed fire from ecosystems where it has been a fundamental part of the landscape rejuvenation cycle. That has, in some regions, led to an excessive build-up of fuels (i.e. vegetation susceptible to burn), and then, when the “right” conditions for fire happen (dry vegetation, hot temperatures, strong winds) those fires are larger, more severe and often unstoppable, as they surpass any suppression capability.
Hardly an omg we need a carbon tax to stop climate change and "half the country burning"

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Originally Posted by uke_master
Yikes. Skill testing question. Do you think there are more or less forests on earth now than, say, 30 years ago?
Yikes! What did you just say about having facts. More trees/greener.
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06-08-2023 , 05:01 PM
Lol. Nobody ITT believes that climate change is the singular clause - just that it is a significant one - so your block quote there disputes nothing. Your original quote of lozen you hilariously failed to dispute said "climate change is a cause". "A cause", not "only cause". As your own source has now established, the increase in fire activity in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change. I'm sorry you got all upset with my obvious tongue in cheek hook, but at least you've provided the evidence that firmly links climate change to forest fires. Thank you!

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More trees/greener.
Yikes. I didn't expect you to actually fail that skill testing question. No, Shifty, there are not more (or greener????) trees today because of more CO2. There has been massive deforestation for the last 30 years. Hope that helps. lol.
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06-08-2023 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
As your own source has now established, the increase in fire activity in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change.
You are a true devour zealot to continue to just keep doubling down on this.

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Originally Posted by uke_master
Yikes. I didn't expect you to actually fail that skill testing question. No, Shifty, there are not more (or greener????) trees today because of more CO2. There has been massive deforestation for the last 30 years. Hope that helps. lol.
Wait? So what your saying is there are less trees now?
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06-08-2023 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
You are a true devour zealot to continue to just keep doubling down on this.



Wait? So what your saying is there are less trees now?
There should be a ton of trees as Justin Trudeau promised to plant a billion trees ? I'm not sure what the amount is buts it's another goal he will never achieve
Growing trees is hard according to Justin Trudeau

How many of these fires are man made or caused by careless folks
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06-08-2023 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
You are a true devour zealot to continue to just keep doubling down on this.
Nope, bro, just quoting from your article. Seriously, I strongly recommend you read it.
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Originally Posted by uke
As your own source has now established, the increase in fire activity in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change.
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Originally Posted by article
There is strong evidence that the increase in fire activity we are seeing in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change"
See how those are the same thing? Like almost word for word level identical?



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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Wait? So what your saying is there are less trees now?
Lol, obviously? Buddy, the world loses something on the order of 6 million hectares of forest every year. Amazing that you are just learning this today. And no, more CO(2) hasn't magically counteracted this nor made the trees "greener". Just lol.
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06-08-2023 , 06:24 PM
The reality is climate change is real and as a result we are seeing more forest fires . The other reality is nothing that Justin Trudeau is doing will reduce this .

We need to adapt with forest management
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06-08-2023 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Nope, bro, just quoting from your article. Seriously, I strongly recommend you read it.


See how those are the same thing? Like almost word for word level identical?
You are refusing to recognize the other factors in the paper. On a global level fires haven't increased. You are trying to paint a picture that half of the country is on fire due to climate change

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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol, obviously? Buddy, the world loses something on the order of 6 million hectares of forest every year. Amazing that you are just learning this today. And no, more CO(2) hasn't magically counteracted this nor made the trees "greener". Just lol.
Obviously buddy, about those facts you claim behind you.


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/...-35-years-ago/

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Although agricultural expansion in the tropics has swallowed vast areas of the rainforest, climate change has allowed a greater number of new trees to grow in areas previously too cold to support them.

Scientists at the University of Maryland analysed satellite pictures showing how the use of land on Planet Earth has altered over a 35-year period. The study, published in Nature journal, is the largest of its kind ever conducted.

The research suggests an area covering 2.24 million square kilometers - roughly the combined land surface of Texas and Alaska, two sizeable US states - has been added to global tree cover since 1982. This equates to 7% of the Earth’s surface covered by new trees.
https://www.gotreequotes.com/are-the...%20the%20world.

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The planet has more trees now than 100 years ago. Due to the industrial scaling of tree harvesting in the decades leading to the 1920’s boom, There were an estimated 750 billion trees worldwide in the 1920s. Since then, and with planting for harvest schemes, we now have approximately 3.04 trillion trees in the world.
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06-09-2023 , 10:28 AM
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06-09-2023 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
You are refusing to recognize the other factors in the paper. On a global level fires haven't increased. You are trying to paint a picture that half of the country is on fire due to climate change
Lol, do you struggle to follow conversations? I already told you that nobody ITT believes global warming is the only factor - just that it IS a big factor, as your reference establishes. Your reference also breaks out the distinction between savannah fires and forest fires leading to that "global level fires haven't increased" line from you, but if you actually read your own paper (how have you still not done this!) it talks explicitly about how this stat is being misused the way you are misusing it because indeed they cite a climate change link to the increase in the "severity and extent" of these big forest fire events. I know, i know, you want to interpret my obviously tongue-in-check initial statement as something completely literal and ignoring everything you've read since, but conversations don't work that way buddy.
Obviously buddy, about those facts you claim behind you.

Interesting! A good illustration actually of how powerful the effects of climate change are if the massive human deforestation in the tropics is being partially compensated by increased natural reforestation in the north.

Didn't realize you were a fan of the WEF, thanks for sharing!
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06-09-2023 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol, do you struggle to follow conversations? I already told you that nobody ITT believes global warming is the only factor - just that it IS a big factor, as your reference establishes. Your reference also breaks out the distinction between savannah fires and forest fires leading to that "global level fires haven't increased" line from you, but if you actually read your own paper (how have you still not done this!) it talks explicitly about how this stat is being misused the way you are misusing it because indeed they cite a climate change link to the increase in the "severity and extent" of these big forest fire events. I know, i know, you want to interpret my obviously tongue-in-check initial statement as something completely literal and ignoring everything you've read since, but conversations don't work that way buddy.
Obviously buddy, about those facts you claim behind you.
I've wasted enough time on this with you. You can claim it was "tongue in check" but you were obviously being a mis-leading weasel to try and push your political agenda


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Originally Posted by uke_master
Interesting! A good illustration actually of how powerful the effects of climate change are if the massive human deforestation in the tropics is being partially compensated by increased natural reforestation in the north.

Didn't realize you were a fan of the WEF, thanks for sharing!
It's embarrassing you don't know these simple FACTS while attempting to be a pompous dick. The fact you didn't know this along with the term greening and CO2 being the main cause, while claiming climate change is your biggest political concern is shameful.
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06-09-2023 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
I've wasted enough time on this with you. You can claim it was "tongue in check" but you were obviously being a mis-leading weasel to try and push your political agenda
Obvious hyperbole apparently not so obvious.

But I can definitely understand your concern, because I'm sure that could fool lots of people into thinking that literally half the country was on fire. I rushed out of the house and headed south. I was in a long line at the border, but after doing some furious Googling while crawling along, I realized that uke weasel was just making **** up. When I told all the others in the line, they were furious. I promised I'd look up uke's info so we could send a mob after him.
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06-10-2023 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
I've wasted enough time on this with you. .
As long as you've truly internalized your own source's refutation of your previous nonsense and now understand why climate change is indeed a significant factor in the big forest fires we've been happening I'm totally happy.
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06-10-2023 , 08:28 AM
David Johnston resigns .
Never should have accepted the role

If only he could have googled conflict of interest

New person will be appointed .
Qualifications:
Friend or family member of Justin Trudeau
Will rule how Justin Trudeau likes
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06-10-2023 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
As long as you've truly internalized your own source's refutation of your previous nonsense and now understand why climate change is indeed a significant factor in the big forest fires we've been happening I'm totally happy.
Totally, we need to quadruple the carbon tax yesterday to stop these fires. Honestly I'm just looking forward to your next skills testing question.
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06-10-2023 , 09:35 AM
What a coincidence, as I am looking forward to your entertaining answers to more of those simple questions!

All the best.
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06-10-2023 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
David Johnston resigns .
Never should have accepted the role

If only he could have googled conflict of interest

New person will be appointed .
Qualifications:
Friend or family member of Justin Trudeau
Will rule how Justin Trudeau likes
On your standards, Johnston was thus acceptable. He was not a friend or family member of Trudeau, as Johnston noted they hadn’t had a personal engagement in over 40 years since Trudeau was a kid. Indeed, think how bizarre it would have been for Harper to appoint a personal friend of Trudeau!

If one reads his report, it is actually very well reasoned. There remains exactly zero evidence to suggest that Trudeau did anything substantially wrong, and the opposition can huff and puff and hope there is some real scandal there but thankfully there just isn’t.
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06-10-2023 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
The reality is climate change is real and as a result we are seeing more forest fires . The other reality is nothing that Justin Trudeau is doing will reduce this .

We need to adapt with forest management
Missed this post. The reality is that you are wrong.

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06-10-2023 , 01:49 PM
Sweet, another extreme derpy Twitter source that feeds you info you want to believe in. Be sure to buy one of the many books he pitches at the top of his profile. He earned your support. The titles include 'Best Things First', 'False Alarm', and 'Skeptical Environmentalist' in case his agenda was not apparent, and his multiple degrees in political science (including a PhD in political science) definitely make him an expert on environmental science. After all - both are sciences!

All the best.
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06-11-2023 , 02:03 PM
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But if trudeau do not do it , oil companies polievre complain and they can’t export the amount of oil they want and can …
Catch 22 .
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06-12-2023 , 09:19 AM
Great article on how Power has changed Justin Trudeau


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...0db975c6&ei=11
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06-12-2023 , 10:46 AM
That is not a news article, it is an opinion piece. It is literally labeled as an opinion piece. The person writing it as expected has a lot of anti-Trudeau stuff on his Twitter feed, so he will of course create content you want to consume, though he does not seem as derpy as many of your other opinion piece sources, and he is certainly less derpy than the fringy low follower stuff Shifty somehow gets fed. He does have as his title that he is "Most influential person of Canada. Canada moral leader. Beloved Canadian role model" which is probably trying to be funny but usually the people who say that in jest or not are pieces of work. He does not have a large number of followers which is par for the course for most of the stuff you and Shifty post here.

All you have to do in future is call opinion pieces for what they are - opinion pieces. We all know if they say something negative about Trudeau you will enjoy it and call it great or important or whatever, but at least then you are acknowledging the sources you use are biased instead of pretending they are actual unbiased news articles.

All the best.
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06-12-2023 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
That is not a news article, it is an opinion piece. It is literally labeled as an opinion piece. The person writing it as expected has a lot of anti-Trudeau stuff on his Twitter feed, so he will of course create content you want to consume, though he does not seem as derpy as many of your other opinion piece sources, and he is certainly less derpy than the fringy low follower stuff Shifty somehow gets fed. He does have as his title that he is "Most influential person of Canada. Canada moral leader. Beloved Canadian role model" which is probably trying to be funny but usually the people who say that in jest or not are pieces of work. He does not have a large number of followers which is par for the course for most of the stuff you and Shifty post here.

All you have to do in future is call opinion pieces for what they are - opinion pieces. We all know if they say something negative about Trudeau you will enjoy it and call it great or important or whatever, but at least then you are acknowledging the sources you use are biased instead of pretending they are actual unbiased news articles.

All the best.
I didnt know that was a rule here. Go watch your ladies on the view salivate over Trumps indightment
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