Agreed no one thinks he is a racist just a Hypocrit. This is the man who corrected a woman that said "Mankind and said we like to use the word people kind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uln6ULsPQno


Also the guy that wanted conservatives to step down as they were against **** sexuality 15 years ago or had comments on FB from wayback.
Heck he wanted a MP to quit because she bought a $15 Orange Juice on a federal trip.

No one thinks he is a racist and pretty much all CDN's accept his apology.

That's fine and all, but it's also completely appropriate for major politicians to "virtue signal" opposition to homophobia, racism and the like. Just as it is wrong when trump "dog whistles" the opposite direction. Liberals are correct to point out, for instance, that Scheer hasn't apologized for his homophobic past statements, was using those statements to try and deny what should be basic human rights to gay people, and to this day refused to attend pride parades. These things matter, and labeling them "virtue signalling" is mainly just silly.

And of course the liberals have done many things, rightly or wrongly, that are not just "virtue signalling" one issues related to race. For instance, their first major action after taking power was a big jump in responding to the syrian refugee crisis, and last year canada resettled more refugees than any other country on earth.

Question for you If Andrew Scheer believes homosexuality is a sin and personally does not approve of it does he have that right as long as a leader he believes no one should be discriminated against based on their sexual orientation or race?

Also remember Trudeau refuses to apologize for the SNC scandal. not saying two rights make a wrong

Its gonna be a close election

This is a strange question. He has a "right" to think whatever homophobic thoughts he wants or uphold the homophobic beliefs of whatever religion he wants. A better question is whether Canadians should tolerate these homophobic views. In his case, he actively sought (and has never renounced, although it is seemingly no longer "active") to have the government discriminate against people based on their sexual orientation. So maybe he believes some platitudes that gays shouldn't be discriminated against (or has some incoherent justification that trying to ban them from marrying isn't discrimination), but his actions stand.

This is completely the opposite of the trudeau situation where, disgusting as those past actions undoubtedly were, throughout his political career both his rhetoric and actions speak loudly against this past act. This makes it a disgusting, but ultimately forgivable, act to me.

I agree 100% with you. I ask the question as I was raised strict Christian Reformed. Church twice on Sunday and Private Christian school. We were taught Gays are going to hell and everyone else that is not Christian. As for the gay issue I changed my mind on that about 15 years ago. As well the last 10 years have been a Atheist. Many religions still see it as a sin.

Look at the Quebec bill 21 Its amazing how parties will not say this is racist out of fear of losing Quebec voters.


I guess it would be the same( maybe not) as being Pro-Life but accepting the fact that has been decided by the courts as many conservatives do.
I also agree that the Trudeau situation and the my question are different issues.

Doesn't seem like the brownface scandal has moved the needle much in the election, one or two days but now the Liberals are slowly gaining.

Gotta think Conservatives wished this came out later in the campaign

might as well!

FAKEMEDIA gonna get ya either way amirite

It really hasn't as most CDN's reply is man we all did bad things when we were young he apologized move on.

Personally the SNC scandal and his failure to deliver on electoral reform lost my vote. Though I have such a tough time voting for Andrew Harper.
Being in Alberta my riding has been NDP for 4 elections now and its between a really good PC candidate and the NDP

I don't see the Liberals holding the other two seats


Sundays campaign trail was yet another joke

Trudeau will take action on guns. Canada does not have a gun problem Justin

Scheer with vets promising how he will do more for vets. Kept deflecting when asked about how Harper screwed the vets

Everyone realizes the photos are fake so of course it's not moving the needle

If you were still going to vote for Trudeau and the liberals after the last 4 years, a few stupid pictures from 20 year ago probably isn't going to change that. But we'll see what happens when it comes time to vote.

Well, I suppose you're right, I don't get why you say this as a bad thing. Most informed people occupy certain regions of the political spectrum. For instance, I think we need to be doing more on climate change and after 15 years of waffling we finally have a PM who is trying to do something on that file. Even if I grant just about every personal failing of trudeau that SNC isn't a nothing burger, that hes arrogant, racist, etc etc, shouldn't I still maintain more or less that same place on the spectrum?

I don't check this forum enough....is this some meta troll ****?

Is he really? We are failing as the worst of the G7. Never meeting our goals and he bought a pipeline.

Can you believe Climate Change is real yet its a world problem and greed will dictate nothing may get done. The question is who it effects the most and sadly some countries may benefit

Ya, Canada is am embarrassment on the environment. Remember when Dion tried to run on the Green Shift, against the advice of his advisors who thought canadians wouldn't vote for a referendum on environmental issues? Well the advisors were right and we got a lost decade of harper. Trudeau's plan is bad. It isn't nearly enough to pull us out of basketcase status. It takes the revenue and more or less gives it back to the people when it should be used to pay for green infrastructure. But.....it's something. The conservative plan is laughable (and, ironically, less fiscally conservative).

I've argued and voted in the past for greens to try and shift the conversation towards green issue (for example voting green in ontario prior to mcguinty introducing the feed-in-tarriff system which was largely a response to surging green popularity). But in this election the liberals already are fighting a genuinely hard political battle for a big piece of federal legislation on the environement and so voting for that is more important than voting green for "signalling" type reasons.

I'm of two minds on the pipeline. At a high level, I think the oil should largely be left in the ground. But within the context of assuming we are trying to curb emissions slowly while exporting energy, pipelines are better than rail and buying the pipeline is meh fine whatever. Butts has long admired the sort of european "commanding heights" model of federalism where the government supports national champions. It is the impetus for both the pipeline AND for SNC at the end of the day, that they believe part of governments role in a competitive international landscape is to prop up big national companies and projects. I sort of agree I guess, but it has resulted in both unorthodox and unethical decision making. Meh.

Elizabeth May and the Greens look terrible on this. Though I think she may get 7-8 seats this election. NDP may lose 1/2 again. Their strongholds of Quebec and BC are in trouble. Many Quebec NDP voters are blatantly racist and will not vote for a guy wearing a Turban and I think the Greens having taken a huge % of NDP votes. Its sad as I thin k he is a good leader. No question better than Trudeau and Andrew Harper

https://www.newsweek.com/canada-gree...-straw-1460953

I think I am just going to play it safe and vote conservative. At least Scheer can get the country going in the right direction. Then hopefully in 4 years PPC can take over.

What exactly do you mean by “right direction”. Ignoring fireworks like SNC, the libs and cons really are on the same direction. For instance, Trudeau cut the middle tax rate, partially offset by the new top tax rate. Far more financially irresponsible, but still in the same direction. Harper slashed corporate tax rates, Trudeau keeping those around. Both support pipelines, just Trudeau has put a bit more an environmentally responsible version. Both have energy policies to cut greenhouse gases, but the cons are laughably fiscally irresponsible on this one while also being less effective. So what, exactly, is the “right direction”?

So Trudeau has said I was privileged than and did not know it was racist. Yet good Old Rebel Media found a clip from 2016 were he was talking about racism and how he had to take a seminar/course on racism. I am sure they taught him black face no good . He says the woman in the photo whose hand he had on her chest was a close friend. Well Rebel Media found her and not true

Do I think Trudeau is racist? Nope. Do I think he groped more woman than Trump? Yup

Also the video of him prancing around like a monkey and stuffing a banana in his pants while his whole body was black faced? Ouch Plus who packs blackface makeup to go as a rafting guide. It would not shock me if he did this 10-15 times. He is lucky no cellphone cameras at the time.

This is the first election I actually considering not voting

Ya the groping is pretty bad. No chance it is even close to trump, but ya bad.

I don't get the 2016 point? By that time he is "politically aware", let's say and certainly is aware it is bad at that time. Heck, he acknowledging knowing it was bad when he didn't disclose during the leadership election. I don't really blame him for that: of course he wouldn't want to commit political sepukku, what politician with skeletons has ever done that?

So it has come out that Andrew Scheer wasn't even an insurance salesmen before getting into politics and has been lying the entire time...so the only job he has ever had is...a waiter?

Yeah I think it best to just vote Liberal here can't take such a risk with the economy on a Conservative government right now

Didn't see that. Was too busy watching the higher quality trudeau black face video I guess!

Link Please

That video is the worst. Hoping around like a Monkey and I heard stuffing a banana in his pants. That is racist.

1 in 10 CDN's do not know who they are voting for and 36% think Trudeau is the most capable leader and May second. That does not look good for Andrew Harper I mean Scheer

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the election.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...AI6W35?ocid=sf