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08-16-2022 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
That’s what using the notwithstanding clause is by definition. However the two don’t seem that comparable. One is basically a nuclear threat ti eliminate the legal system as we know it. The other is isolated. I disagree with Bill 21 and also disagree about using notwithstanding clause, but they are still and order of magnitude different threat level.

And let’s remember it was the conservatives in Ontario who actually used the clause, and for nothing less than trying to game elections.
Im sure the Danielle Smith was not planning on ignoring all the federal laws just the ones she thinks do not apply to Alberta

That is exactly what Quebec is doing with Bill 21 and Language laws saying if the Supreme Court says nope were gonna do it anyway. Ignoring the rule of law

Like you I do not agree with Alberta, Quebec and How Ontario used it.
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08-16-2022 , 10:08 AM
I think there is an important distinction between an isolated use of the notwithstanding clause on a specific piece of legislation that is believed to be strongly aligned with one's elected mandate - we have the clause for a reason - and a threat to exploit the clause at a nuclear level for any and all federal laws you don't like - which the clause was NOT intended for. I think they are both bad. But one threat is an order of magnitude worse.
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08-16-2022 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Ah yes, it seems you do NOT get that there are more possible takes than just "Shifty's" and "not Shifty's". Fascinating. I wonder if this black-and-white failure of imagination is a systemic problem in your thinking, or just something that irrationally pops up in response to seeing me post.

Let's use your favorite "Agree to disagree" on this one since the Canada thread is special to me and I care not for your antics here.
That is not the issue.

You clearly opposed Shifty's point on the subject. That you say 'there are many 'possible takes' does not mean you were not opposing what he said.


Now you have clearly realized you are wrong so you are desperate to pretend you did not in fact oppose what Shifty said, and trying this spin.

And that is fine as I know you well enough. You won't admit it. But I accept your concession that you cannot now utter the words that you did in fact oppose Shifty as you now know you were wrong.
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08-16-2022 , 11:18 AM
Yes, I made fun of Shifty’s take. That reveals very little about what my take is as there are many possible takes. Specifically your little lecture at me in response attacked a viewpoint you have no idea whether I hold.

I guess you disagree to agree to disagree? Fair enough, you always were a hypocrite about that just as you were once again a hypocrite about calling people wrong on obvious matters of opinion. I shall simply let you have the last word and you can feel victorious in your stew of hypocrisy and made up controversies.
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08-16-2022 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Yes, I made fun of Shifty’s take. That reveals very little about what my take is as there are many possible takes.....
this is your way of admitting you did oppose it, without saying it, as I called you out as wrong and you now r4eal9ize you were.

You do not 'make fun of' something with someone like Shifty whom you have no cordial relationship with.

Look how much you are spinning here to not simply say if you 'agreed with' or 'opposed' what Shifty said there, and trying to hide under 'I made fun'... 'but that does not mean i did not agree', type spin.

Anyway, like I said, you are busted even if you will never admit it.
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08-16-2022 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Im sure the Danielle Smith was not planning on ignoring all the federal laws just the ones she thinks do not apply to Alberta

That is exactly what Quebec is doing with Bill 21 and Language laws saying if the Supreme Court says nope were gonna do it anyway. Ignoring the rule of law

Like you I do not agree with Alberta, Quebec and How Ontario used it.
Danielle smith clearly said she would ignore any law that goes against alberta own interest .
That is a total rejection of the system as we know it …
And that what is dangerous .


If u think Québec is managing in the same way I just can’t help u there .
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08-16-2022 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I think there is an important distinction between an isolated use of the notwithstanding clause on a specific piece of legislation that is believed to be strongly aligned with one's elected mandate - we have the clause for a reason - and a threat to exploit the clause at a nuclear level for any and all federal laws you don't like - which the clause was NOT intended for. I think they are both bad. But one threat is an order of magnitude worse.
+1
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08-17-2022 , 12:35 PM
Here we go again....
it was Salman Rushdie attempt murder this week now this :

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...b8187dbe7e19ac

"MONTREAL — Quebec Cardinal Marc Ouellet, once considered a front-runner to become pope, has been accused of sexual assault and is among a list of clergy members and diocesan staff named in a class-action lawsuit against the archdiocese of Quebec."

Just get those crazy discriminatory religions moral/value/philosophy out of government representation ffs.
go bill 21 go .
We dont care about your beliefs, keep it to yourself at work, we care to receive neutral services.
ie: do a woman need to see the Jesus values when she go abort ?
fack off...its already hard as it is without morality being slam in her face.

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 08-17-2022 at 12:55 PM.
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08-17-2022 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Here we go again....
it was Salman Rushdie attempt murder this week now this :

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...b8187dbe7e19ac

"MONTREAL — Quebec Cardinal Marc Ouellet, once considered a front-runner to become pope, has been accused of sexual assault and is among a list of clergy members and diocesan staff named in a class-action lawsuit against the archdiocese of Quebec."

Just get those crazy discriminatory religions moral/value/philosophy out of government representation ffs.
go bill 21 go .
We dont care about your beliefs, keep it to yourself at work, we care to receive neutral services.
ie: do a woman need to see the Jesus values when she go abort ?
fack off...its already hard as it is without morality being slam in her face.
The Salmon Rushdie one was just horrible. His security failed him big time

As much as I find the Catholic Church one of the most disgusting entities out there and guilty of in some ways organized crime this loan charge against the Cardinal seems weak

Hey I am for all religion out of Society but than the catholic teacher that has a cross tattooed on his arm must be fired as well. For me Bill 21 looks to protect Quebec's catholic religion

As I have said before I have friends in QC who say no one makes the teachers remove the crosses on chains around their necks
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08-17-2022 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen

As I have said before I have friends in QC who say no one makes the teachers remove the crosses on chains around their necks
he just need make a complain, they will apply it !
i would 1 million times !

Not because some idiot (like Trump) dont follow laws and rules, laws should be discarded.
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08-19-2022 , 12:46 PM
Interesting article on Canada's Health Care System

Pretty bleak

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/med...6529d86f5a56fe


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08-19-2022 , 09:51 PM
Lol the whole country's financial and infrastructural future is predicated on ever increasing immigration. You don't need a YouTube video to figure out the inherent fault in that logic.
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08-19-2022 , 10:50 PM
People rather have cash then good affordable services , so they keep lowering taxes and then complain when services gets worst . Shrug .

There is a strange conception that when u want quality people it’s normal to pay them with great wages in private sector but to get quality people in the public sector u shouldn’t .
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08-20-2022 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
People rather have cash then good affordable services , so they keep lowering taxes and then complain when services gets worst . Shrug .

There is a strange conception that when u want quality people it’s normal to pay them with great wages in private sector but to get quality people in the public sector u shouldn’t .
I am not so sure that is true OK Alberta may be an example of lowering taxes but BC is not. Across Canada every province is having a issue. Shortage of doctors and nurses.

Add in Opiods, Obesity and a few other factors and our system is overwhelmed. So you have provinces trying to steal doctors from each other.

I think Covid burnt out a lot of doctors and teachers and they chose retirement over staying longer
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08-20-2022 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
People rather have cash then good affordable services , so they keep lowering taxes and then complain when services gets worst . Shrug .

There is a strange conception that when u want quality people it’s normal to pay them with great wages in private sector but to get quality people in the public sector u shouldn’t .
High wages in the private sector come with the caveat that underperforming individuals can be terminated far easier.
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08-20-2022 , 10:35 AM
My brother and I jokingly debate this sometimes. I have a nearly 100% secure job for life with great pension and benefits and enjoy it. He makes 150% more than me at revolving series if biotech startups that have 3 month runways and zero benefits except options he has yet to ever have a successful company work out to cash out of. But his ceiling in this space is like 3-4 times mine, and I can only go up by about 5k/year for uh ever (ignoring my side hustle). So which do you take? We find ourselves both jealous of the other person
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08-20-2022 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BrookTrout
High wages in the private sector come with the caveat that underperforming individuals can be terminated far easier.
Depends which positions u speak of .

There is a lot of government position that uses contracts , temporary status , I’m not even speaking about political nominations that have massive implications on the quality of services people receives and the quality of people that are actually nominated .
Those nominated political people often ask other people to work for them that are as well often terrible ( they just want to look good and please the boss to further up their career instead of doing what need to be done in the first place …).

And in todays age , they are missing massive amount of workers .
Being lay off isn’t a real threat unless u are just truly terrible .
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08-20-2022 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
My brother and I jokingly debate this sometimes. I have a nearly 100% secure job for life with great pension and benefits and enjoy it. He makes 150% more than me at revolving series if biotech startups that have 3 month runways and zero benefits except options he has yet to ever have a successful company work out to cash out of. But his ceiling in this space is like 3-4 times mine, and I can only go up by about 5k/year for uh ever (ignoring my side hustle). So which do you take? We find ourselves both jealous of the other person
I do not mean this as an insult but let me guess your brother works longer hours as well

Id take your position just based on the pension. My sister is a retired teacher and her pension is the best plus when she hits 65 next year they do not deduct cpp or Old age from the amount
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08-20-2022 , 07:09 PM
Saw this story last night on Global

Long story short Alberta tested night vision capabilities in its fleet to combat forest fires allowing them to fight them through the night. They got this technology from a few BC companies and tested it less than a year ago and implemented it

As for BC they tested it two years ago but still have not implemented it. If there ever was a province that should implement this its BC . They say they are still over 2 years out

I do believe Uke had mentioned how bad the bureaucracy is in BC

https://globalnews.ca/video/9071068/...ght-wildfires/
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08-20-2022 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I do not mean this as an insult but let me guess your brother works longer hours as well
The opposite actually. A tonne of job dedication and shitty work/life balances is a feature of both academia and biotech startups, but in this specific case I work longer hours than him. However that might not be true in the long term, I got sort of toxically into workplace hustle about 5 years ago because I knew how ****ing hard it was to get a good academic job in Canada and so I was just pulling on every single string at the same time. Two kids later and I'm starting to slow down a bit.
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08-20-2022 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I do not mean this as an insult but let me guess your brother works longer hours as well

Id take your position just based on the pension. My sister is a retired teacher and her pension is the best plus when she hits 65 next year they do not deduct cpp or Old age from the amount
There was a day when ceo were winning around 30-40 X a medium worker wages , private sector were giving full pension fund benefits back then .

When it stop , ceo wages are reaching today 200-300 X medium worker salaries .
That represent a lot workers benefits increases for 1 person .
And ceo aren’t the only one in management that have massive increase in benefits …

Yup , I wonder where the pension money went …..
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08-20-2022 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
My brother and I jokingly debate this sometimes. I have a nearly 100% secure job for life with great pension and benefits and enjoy it. He makes 150% more than me at revolving series if biotech startups that have 3 month runways and zero benefits except options he has yet to ever have a successful company work out to cash out of. But his ceiling in this space is like 3-4 times mine, and I can only go up by about 5k/year for uh ever (ignoring my side hustle). So which do you take? We find ourselves both jealous of the other person
Yeah he wins more to complete the pension funds he should build himself with .
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08-21-2022 , 12:04 PM
We've gotten the details for the Canada first home savings account (FHSA). https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...s-account.html

It is basically like the best parts of TFSA and RRSP combined into one 40,000 savings account for purchasing a home. If you are young and trying to afford a home, it is great. It is a political win. But....I don't like it.

The central contradiction with housing policy is if you ever doing something to help people buy a home, to make it easier in some way, that puts upward pressure on the prices of homes which makes it harder! It really is a thorny issue and I've seen many proposed policies by all parties all of which fall to this central issue, and this one does too. Instead, I'd have preferred they tax every single dollar lost in tax collection and instead spend that money on creating mixed- or low-income housing. That is, to create more houses not to make it easier or harder to access the existing inventory.

There is one element I like which is that broadly speaking in society I think our wealth curves as a function of age tilt too far to the right. I.e. people in their 20s really struggling to make ends meet and ideas of home ownership impossibly out of reach while people in their say 50s have benefited from the explosion of house prices and years of wealth accumulation and have functionally as much money as they could need. I think our society would be slightly better if we slightly tilted wealth to the left, and this policy does that.

Also I'm just bitter as someone who bought my house 3 years ago
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08-21-2022 , 03:00 PM
To be fair as an gen X in the early 90s , prices were lower but u had 7- 10% interest rates and getting a good job was hard as hell with baby boomer in their 40s ……

I’m not sure the accessibility of houses were easier for young people despite lower prices .
After 10+ years of stagnation, yes early 2000 was a great time to buy real estate .
The start of the boom market and stupid trend of too much lower interest rates

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08-21-2022 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
We've gotten the details for the Canada first home savings account (FHSA). https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...s-account.html

It is basically like the best parts of TFSA and RRSP combined into one 40,000 savings account for purchasing a home. If you are young and trying to afford a home, it is great. It is a political win. But....I don't like it.

The central contradiction with housing policy is if you ever doing something to help people buy a home, to make it easier in some way, that puts upward pressure on the prices of homes which makes it harder! It really is a thorny issue and I've seen many proposed policies by all parties all of which fall to this central issue, and this one does too. Instead, I'd have preferred they tax every single dollar lost in tax collection and instead spend that money on creating mixed- or low-income housing. That is, to create more houses not to make it easier or harder to access the existing inventory.

There is one element I like which is that broadly speaking in society I think our wealth curves as a function of age tilt too far to the right. I.e. people in their 20s really struggling to make ends meet and ideas of home ownership impossibly out of reach while people in their say 50s have benefited from the explosion of house prices and years of wealth accumulation and have functionally as much money as they could need. I think our society would be slightly better if we slightly tilted wealth to the left, and this policy does that.

Also I'm just bitter as someone who bought my house 3 years ago
When you add in the stress test and current mortgage rates not sure how young folks buy a home.

I am currently trying to sell my home . On the market 45 days and first showing today .Income suite above the garage.

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...st-heightsedmo
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