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06-23-2022 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
See there is were you are wrong in many situations a pistol is harder to fire than a AR 15. A pistol usually has a slide mechanism were if you do not hold it right you can burn or rip your hand up.


When you live on a rural property to encounter meth heads or drunks trying to rob you. I believe in the Texas Law. You have the right to kill someone if they break into your home

Good Luck waiting on a RCMP officer when your home is being robbed in a rural setting many times they have illegal weapons as well
How would u know they want to rob u ?
Just by stepping on your yards ?

Well if it’s ok for u to kill for that reason , I think I can kill u too when I see a gun in your hand because I feel threaten ?

I like u lozen but u just don’t make any sense at all .

And again , u must be a poor gun holder vs 1 drunk guy if u can’t kill him with a hand gun but u could with an ar15 ….
Should better get a m16 …

But yeah , I guess a tv has far more worth then u human life for sure .
And when I hear many conservative claim we need to protect life at all cost and so need to ban abortion but life becomes non important if someone steal my tv , lol……
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06-23-2022 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
How would u know they want to rob u ?
Just by stepping on your yards ?

Well if it’s ok for u to kill for that reason , I think I can kill u too when I see a gun in your hand because I feel threaten ?

I like u lozen but u just don’t make any sense at all .

And again , u must be a poor gun holder vs 1 drunk guy if u can’t kill him with a hand gun but u could with an ar15 ….
Should better get a m16 …

But yeah , I guess a tv has far more worth then u human life for sure .
And when I hear many conservative claim we need to protect life at all cost and so need to ban abortion but life becomes non important if someone steal my tv , lol……

No but if they trespass on my property I would rather confront them with an AR 15 than a pistol. Personally I would not want to kill anyone. Sadly there are alot of scummy folks in this world

Who wants to ban abortion. I believe if you don't want an abortion don't have one and if you do not like gay marriage than don't have one. I do support after 15 weeks banning an abortion unless the mothers life is in jeopardy or the babies health

You know there are tons of Conservatives that believe the same way. Oh and biological men should not compete in women's sports . Please do not group us all in the same category

Also remember I voted for the Liberal Facist once but to smart to do it a second or third time. As well NDP the last two elections and maybe a third the way it looks

Though I purchased for the first time in my life a Conservative membership to vote for _____________ Will let Uke guess
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06-23-2022 , 08:20 PM
We all know you are voting poilievre, no need to hide it
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06-23-2022 , 10:11 PM
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06-24-2022 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
We all know you are voting poilievre, no need to hide it

Once again your wrong I will be voting for Jean Charet for the leadership
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06-24-2022 , 12:40 PM
So Justin is denying interfering in the investigation

Hmmm Did he not do that before. Hope someone recorded the conversation

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06-24-2022 , 07:47 PM
Charet, really? Well I suppose it doesn’t matter much as he won’t win, but it has been sad to see him sacrifice all this previous values to try and fecklessly win here.

Also I’m sorry, but I’m still struggling to care about this ~controversy~. Like the head of the rcmp wanted the rcmp to release what type of weapon was used in the biggest mass murder in Canadian history, like….shouldn’t we all want to know this?
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06-24-2022 , 10:29 PM
Yes, we all know you love government control.


It's not just the type of weapon. The commissioner of the RCMP interfered in the investigation and broke protocol for the worst mass shooting in Canadian history for political reasons. And then the federal government withheld information and allegations about it during the inquiry and won't say why.
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06-25-2022 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Yes, we all know you love government control.


It's not just the type of weapon. The commissioner of the RCMP interfered in the investigation and broke protocol for the worst mass shooting in Canadian history for political reasons. And then the federal government withheld information and allegations about it during the inquiry and won't say why.
You have to remember Uke doesn't care about Trudeau's sexual assault, ethics violations, SNC, WE , Destroying a generals career and the list goes on as long as he hates Alberta oil than its all good

Though 6 months ago I though Pierre wouldn't have a chance against JT . Now a chicken could beat him in a election. He has his Lapdog Singh to keep him in power
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06-27-2022 , 11:04 AM
Watching all this Roe vs Wade stuff i the USA and how many CDN's are outraged at it and looked at Canada

First off I am Pro Choice but support banning abortions after 15 weeks unless the mothers life is in jeopardy

Correct me if I am wrong but Canada does not have a law in place guaranteeing the right to an abortion its up to each individual province?



On another note I thought Michelle Rempel Garner nailed it on the UCP and Conservatives Federally

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ning-1.6499049
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06-27-2022 , 07:23 PM
You aren’t pro choice if you want to take away the choice for some people. While the overwhelming majority of abortions do happen before 15 weeks, life is complex and you can imagine any number of crazy scenarios where someone under incredible duress and fluctuating circumstances that might occasionally mean someone wants to choose an abortion after 15 weeks.

You want to come and and tell the survivor of domestic abuse who finally gets out on her own at 16 weeks you’ve taken her choice from her?
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06-27-2022 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You aren’t pro choice if you want to take away the choice for some people. While the overwhelming majority of abortions do happen before 15 weeks, life is complex and you can imagine any number of crazy scenarios where someone under incredible duress and fluctuating circumstances that might occasionally mean someone wants to choose an abortion after 15 weeks.

You want to come and and tell the survivor of domestic abuse who finally gets out on her own at 16 weeks you’ve taken her choice from her?
By that definition I don't think even 1% of the populace is Pro Choice if you say you must have zero restrictions up to and including partial birth abortions.
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06-27-2022 , 08:29 PM
Abortion is completely legal at all stages in Canada, and remains very popular. Practically super late abortions are both incredibly rare and almost always for medical reasons, and if not you probably can’t even find a provider in Canada. So it is mostly irrelevant. But 15 weeks is very much not irrelevant, it is this entirely arbitrary line dreamt up by gop politicians trying to test roe v wade, and puts the burden on the most vulnerable in society.

Do you support a 15 week ban like lozen?
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06-28-2022 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You aren’t pro choice if you want to take away the choice for some people. While the overwhelming majority of abortions do happen before 15 weeks, life is complex and you can imagine any number of crazy scenarios where someone under incredible duress and fluctuating circumstances that might occasionally mean someone wants to choose an abortion after 15 weeks.

You want to come and and tell the survivor of domestic abuse who finally gets out on her own at 16 weeks you’ve taken her choice from her?
That seems to be how the left rolls no compromise and no exceptions. You do realize in many countries in Europe the limit ranges from 12-16 weeks.

Uke could you please quote the federal law that guarantees the right to an abortion please? My point is the USA now has the same system as Canada letting the states dictate the law.
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06-28-2022 , 11:11 AM
So much for keeping American politics out of Canada, I guess it doesn't apply when it's a left-wing talking point and Liberals will use anything to distract people from the scandals and sky rocketing cost of living.
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06-28-2022 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
So much for keeping American politics out of Canada, I guess it doesn't apply when it's a left-wing talking point and Liberals will use anything to distract people from the scandals and sky rocketing cost of living.
Agreed. Shame on lozen for bring up American-style 15 week abortion bans. Keep that **** OUT of Canada. Even Harper knew to silence anyone in his caucus who starting trying to push this, but you right wingers are insistent on bringing american style politics into canada.
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06-28-2022 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
That seems to be how the left rolls no compromise and no exceptions.
This is about what you and I believe is right and wrong. It isn't a political compromise. Perhaps in some other country in some other timeline where I would gain access to abortion but couldn't get a 24 week or term limit then I'd compromise on 15 weeks to try and create some political compromise. But that has nothing to do with what I believe to be right. And it isn't like anyone on the right is all compromising these days.

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Originally Posted by lozen
Uke could you please quote the federal law that guarantees the right to an abortion please? My point is the USA now has the same system as Canada letting the states dictate the law.
As you presumably know, what made abortion legal in Canada at all stages was a supreme court decision, not a federal law. It is weird that you are implying I don't know this my demanding I quote something that doesn't exist.
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06-28-2022 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Agreed. Shame on lozen for bring up American-style 15 week abortion bans. Keep that **** OUT of Canada. Even Harper knew to silence anyone in his caucus who starting trying to push this, but you right wingers are insistent on bringing american style politics into canada.

No actually its been Justin Trudeau that keeps bringing up abortion and the conservatives will try and take away your right. Lets also be honest its Justin Trudeau that is bringing back the right wingers with his style of government.

I am glad it is a settled issue here in Canada
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06-28-2022 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No actually its been Justin Trudeau that keeps bringing up abortion and the conservatives will try and take away your right. Lets also be honest its Justin Trudeau that is bringing back the right wingers with his style of government.
Correct. As you just demonstrated, YOU think we should take away your a women's right to an abortion after 15 weeks. You brought it up ITT, not Trudeau. Trudeau is correct to warn about people like you.
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06-28-2022 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Correct. As you just demonstrated, YOU think we should take away your a women's right to an abortion after 15 weeks. You brought it up ITT, not Trudeau. Trudeau is correct to warn about people like you.

No my point was that we do not have a law in place to protect a woman's right to an abortion. I really do not think we need one and I voiced my personal opinion only and fine with Canadas current status

You do realize each province has its own rules when it comes to abortions and many provinces have limits from 12 weeks to 24 weeks. Some provinces and territories do not have access as well

http://www.morgentaler25years.ca/the...s-by-province/
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06-28-2022 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No actually its been Justin Trudeau that keeps bringing up abortion and the conservatives will try and take away your right. Lets also be honest its Justin Trudeau that is bringing back the right wingers with his style of government.

I am glad it is a settled issue here in Canada
If it was resolve why many pc deputies always try to bringing it up again with motions at the parlement?

A right is never set in stone .
Clearly the US is an example .
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06-28-2022 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Agreed. Shame on lozen for bring up American-style 15 week abortion bans. Keep that **** OUT of Canada. Even Harper knew to silence anyone in his caucus who starting trying to push this, but you right wingers are insistent on bringing american style politics into canada.
Most people really don't care about this issue. Politicians use it as a wedge point, far left crazies protest, religious groups protest and a people virtue signal pretending they care, but if media and politicians didn't push the narrative it's hardly an issue. It's just one of those issues where people have their opinions but at the end of the day I don't think it really moves the needle much come voting time.
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06-28-2022 , 05:36 PM
Imagine what Canada could be like if the government embraced it's energy rather than apologize for it.

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06-28-2022 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I voiced my personal opinion only and fine with Canadas current status
Well of course it was your opinion, who else's would it be. Regardless, you advocated banning non-medical abortions after 15 weeks which is obviously a change to the current legal status in Canada. Indeed. When you read through the "other notes" column it makes quite clear that province to province there remain a lot of restrictions whether that be access, timing, cost, or burdensome restrictions. There remains a lot of work done to ensure that every women in Canada can affordably, easily, and safely access abortion in Canada. That is what we should be focusing on improving, not new legal bans.
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06-28-2022 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Most people really don't care about this issue. Politicians use it as a wedge point, far left crazies protest, religious groups protest and a people virtue signal pretending they care, but if media and politicians didn't push the narrative it's hardly an issue. It's just one of those issues where people have their opinions but at the end of the day I don't think it really moves the needle much come voting time.
I think Canadians DO care about this issue, and access to abortion is a genuine and strongly held Canadian value. It hasn't been a dominant part of the political scene largely because it ISN"T a swing issue, the overwhelming majority are in support of the existing legality of abortion and so no party opposes this except the occasional conservative backbench person. But that isn't the same as people not caring about the issue.

For example, in this poll, 78% think the federal government needs to pass laws to protect abortion rights. It is true that most Canadians also don't want this debate reopened, but again, I don't think that is a lack of caring.
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