Nope. It would be ludicrous to claim that conservative are ok or want tragedies like this to happen. I don't levy that criticism at even the staunchest pro-gun texas republican who has just wild indifference to the effect of guns on their community. Nobody WANTS the negative externalities. Instead, the criticism is that in the balance of values, in the political calculus being made, the negative externalities of this policy are too minimized.

Lets be clear Assault Rifles are not banned and the liberals did not reinstate the process to ban them.


Wow what a week for JT Attorney General had scathing comments on racism in prisons and the treatment of veterans as well

Add in Justin's Covid Virtual signaling by keeping in the outdated travel restrictions. Top airline officials pointing out we are one of the few remaining countries with these policies.

I honestly thought Pierre would have no chance next election but I hope I am wrong as CDN's are tiring of our dictator

Huh? Is this some weird like definitional trick? Yes, the Liberals prohibited over 1500 models of assault-style firearms. The CPC platform is to undo this.

I was watching CTV and they said it never was put into law due to the election being called and it never cleared the senate. Hey if I am wrong so be it . Maybe there were talking 2019 ?

Though you may be right? I know I got everything else he has failed on right

U honestly believe the truck convoy would last that many weeks if trudeau was a dictator ?
Really ?

Many people do not consider Putin a dictator …..
I suggest You check the difference of leadership And freedom between Canadian and Russian when disagreeing vs their respective leaders .
and tell us how far better Russians are with examples .

iirc, the ban on sales was in place in 2020. However there was also a 2 year amnesty for existing owners to come into compliance, and the portion that died (and very likely to come back) with the election was a buyback program that would let those with existing assault rifles trade them in for compensation. Regardless, you can’t buy one today.

The simple reality is nobody in Canada needs an assault rifle. Nor a handgun, for that matter, but assault rifles are clearly more dangerous than handguns, just see the many school shootings in the US.

See when I make a mistake I am quick to correct it and apologize and move on. You keep spreading a lie that assault rifles are more dangerous than handguns. You keep comparing us to the USA we are nothing like the USA. We may be heading that way politically .

So you know what a rancher requires to protect his property. As much as I may agree with you on handguns most crime committed with a handgun is committed with an illegally obtained one and lets be clear The Liberal government reduced sentences on these crimes.

I guarantee you JT sat in a room after the Texas massacre and said "How can we capitalize off this and quickly put together the new measures which will do absolutely nothing to reduce gun crime which like emissions keep rising

You were attempting to bash your political opponent, if not then they why not just say "people in Canada". Because it's not just conservatives that disagree with you.

Can you post the link to "repeal the assault riffle ban"

Anyone that knows anything about firearms and the current laws in Canada around them know this is all about political clout and looking good for idiots that don't know any better.

Wtf are you talking about? OF COURSE an assault rifle is more dangerous than a hand gun. Let me put it this way: if a gunman like in Uvalde walked into a school, do you want them to have a handgun or an assault rifle? I think what you are trying to hint at is that because hand guns are more common ( for instance, you can actually buy one where assault rifles are banned), that handguns are more "dangerous" from a percentage of total gun crimes perspective. Sure, but to suggest that noting that assault rifles are inherently more dangerous is a "lie" is pretty stupid.

I'm fine if a rancher wants a hunting rifle to keep a cougar away, but to suggest that ranchers need assault rifles like the AR-15 is silly.

YOU called for a ban on handguns. Then JT did it. You can't complain it will do absolutely nothing when it was the policy idea you had just days before he implemented it! You should be THRILLED!

While I don't doubt that he did - completely appropriately - respond to this tragedy by acting to help prevent these tragedies, it is worth noting that the policy today isn't "new", many of the planks were in the 2021 platform, were in the public safety minister's mandate letter, and have been worked on for a long time. Political momentum did build the pressure to release it now, but it wasn't as haphazard as you suggest. Regardless, as it gave you the policy you wanted I presume you will be giving JT credit?

The "people in Canada" are not the ones trying to repeal the assault rifle ban, that is the conservative party platform in the last election. Do you just struggle with following the basic elements of how conversations work?



Surely you can google confirmation of basic facts that I inform you of. It is your choice to remain ignorant, if you wish, but I'm not hand holding you through how to type stuff into google.

Wtf are you talking about, honestly? It's painfully obviously you don't have the slightest clue about firearms. I'd be shocked if you ever held or fired one before.

Just LOL at a rancher using an AR-15 to take down a cougar.

I know you probably don't understand this, but not everyone is a zealot. There are plenty of sport shooters, hunters and gun enthusiast that vote liberal.


Surely I can, perhaps I already have. You understand there's a difference between repealing a terrible bill and wanting to repeal a "assault riffle ban".

Bill Morneau is sounding the alarm

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...-first-elected

Canada is also projected to be last in economic growth among advanced countries for the coming decades.

But atleast handguns which were already extremely difficult to get legally are banned and COVID measures are still in place to fly.

Must be nice living in a world where all your angst, frustration and anger is able to be projected on a single person or political party. As we say in sales, KISS, keep it simple stupid

Indeed. I know you struggle with the basics of following a conversation, but surely even you would have been able to read that I was criticizing the CPC platform and not gun-toting Canadians, liberal or otherwise.

Lol, so cagey. Yes, the CPC platform is to real the actual assault rifle ban we actually have, obviously. Notice how there is nothing about replacing that with some other assault rifle ban in the platform either?

This is the Canadian political forum. We share a border with the greatest economy ever, we are a mineral rich country with some of the largest oil reserves in the world. In the midst of a global energy crises starved for energy there is zero reason we should be projected to be worst in economic growth other than terrible government decisions and bad policies based off dogma.

Can you post a link to the CPC platform saying that? You are attempting to capitalize on a tragedy in another country by implying the CPC are ok with itor it will happen under the CPC. Its a scumbag thing to do and a cite or ban is justifiable.

I’ve given you the basic facts, you are certainly capable of googling to verify them yourself. I can only walk you through the basics so far, if you are convinced of some alternative reality narrative you repeat no matter what I tell you then that is on you.

Ok, so it's safe to say this was another one of your made up talking points? Similar to the carbon tax being neutral cost to people because of rebates?

the above is undeniable true.

While Canada being a mostly left leaning country is a strength in many way (social safety net, etc), it unfortunately leaves the country overly susceptible to the damage of many of the farther left views that make us not only short sighted but are the embodiment of the idiom, 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.

Canada would not just be a stronger and more wealthy nation, able to deliver ever more social services, but we could be leading other countries and exporting technology that could be the game changer on issues like 'greening this planet', if like Norway we maximized our production of natural resources, in ways that made it gallon by gallon, cleaner for the world.

Instead this flawed ideology pervades the far left that making Cdn Oil as expensive as possible and as polluting as possible, will reduce our product hitting the markets and thus impact world demand and thus lower overall consumption, leading to a greener world.

It is a completely flawed and failed logic the left (on this forum espoused by uke) repeat as world wide consumption is not impacted by Canada's ability to supply nor the cost of Cdn product. The curve of the Demand continues straight up and to the right regardless with other sources of O&G stepping in to meet that demand.

So while those same lefties push for ever more in areas that require gov't taxes to be deployed to pay for them in areas of the Social Safety Net and others, they at the same time try to knee cap the countries #1 revenue generator for the Country.

We would call it just laughable ignorance if it was not so dangerous but instead it ends up harming the country and contributing to even more deaths amongst the countries most vulnerable as those budgets to help them remain much smaller than they otherwise could be.

it is indeed similar. It is just an objective feature of reality that the conservatives called to repeal the 2020 assault style rifle ban as it is that 90% of the carbon tax collected is rebated to people. You are welcome to make up your own reality, of course, if that is more comforting to you.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globaln...-platform/amp/

Indeed. O'Toole went all flippity-floppity (as I documented at the time ITT) and moved against his own party while the platform itself did not change. Nevertheless, he is long gone.

Um, no a "demand curve" (note: "curve of the Demand" isn't a thing) goes down and to the right. You are confusing the concept of a demand curve which has axes price and quantity with the graph of consumption as a function of time: https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/0x...ddb61ccc76.PNG