To be clear, I mostly blame the conservative politicians that lozen follows who endlessly present that taxation side while completely omitting the rebate side. And while I'd agree 75% of canadians are likely ignorant on how it works, lozen has been debating the merits of the carbon tax for probably years ITT. That he didn't realize the most basic features of it is....weird.

The 45 was for your home heating you mean? I don't know Alberta winter prices well, but that seems pretty steep? Presumably it will be a lot less then that for the other half the year. So with $496 (not sure if you have anyone else in your house) for an individual back, you might end up a small loser but not a huge one I think.

Fortunately this is now one of those where as long as one files taxes (in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario) that person will be automatically applied. Payments are quarterly. I do not believe there is an income check in these provinces. Past years if one did not fill in the appropriate schedule (any basic bookkeeper or software would do it) then perhaps it was not claimed. Safe to say a lot of people would be clueless as to how to apply otherwise, so now its automatic with the return and instead of a refundable tax credit in one lump it is paid quarterly.

Obviously a single dude will be able to claim less than a family with multiple participants, but in theory that single dude should be using less as well. I am not going to dig into Lozen's math, because I am sure it is not correct, but as long then he files taxes he will get the appropriate amount for 2021, and after that he can hate Trudeau as he needs. He should check his 2020 and earlier forms (when this was in effect) to see if he filled in Schedule 14 and put the appropriate amount in line 45110 on his return.

Kenney definitely know what he is talking about at the pump https://twitter.com/tommy_slick/stat...Ec_rRdI8jGH9-g

That is a funny clip. But older rams it's pretty common to have the the nozzle get stuck.

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...-stuck-trucks/

I feel bad for other provinces, but I guess you get what you vote for.

It's ok, at least we know how to operate a gas pump.

All the best.

You blame the conservatives for the inability of the Liberals not doing a better job explaining the carbon tax.

Here is a thought how about they do a better job explaining it

I get $490 according to my accountant/brother this year. Last year I paid on Natural gas and gasoline about $550 in carbon taxes. So I am a net loser. That amount will be higher this year as well

That does not factor all the increased costs of carbon tax passed on to the consumer

Though I am sure Monteroy thinks I am a big loser

Technically a simple google search will explain it for those interested.

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...-for-2021.html

It is explained about as well as any tax credit is explained, and I would put it as above average in that regard. If you want to see things that are muddled and confusing in comparison I am happy to show you equivalents from the Ford government they put in provincially which are hard to understand even upon multiple readings. Hint, one credit (based on a real confusing set of conditions) is based on a person "sharpening their skills."

Note, I would not call you a loser for this topic. I would say you are about average in your knowledge, but then average for this area is very low. Obviously that does not stop you from blaming the Liberals and Trudeau .

Hey ill be honest here is what I thought about the carbon tax

You do not get it if you make above a certain income. I knew that I am paying it on natural gas and gas for my vehicle. I am surprised it is not calculated on power

For uke to blame the conservatives that 75% of Cdn's are as ignorant as I am on the topic is laughable. The Liberals should be doing a better job educating CDN's

I still do not support a carbon tax as its useless in the overall picture.

In many provinces, including yours, you get the credit regardless of your income. Bobo says BC is different, and I admit I am not up to date with their provincial rules as much as Ontario for obvious reasons. I already said this simple concept before with regard to this credit and income and you did not understand, which shows that there is really only so much that can be done in terms of educating the public on a topic like this. That is why it is good they made it an automatic process. That way everyone will get what they are entitled as per the rules, even if they do not understand that and whine about it later on. In many areas I approve of dumbasses paying a dumbass fee (even if that means they do not get what they can), but for personal tax regulations I am a big believer in making them as automated as possible so that any credits go to those who qualify for them, whether they are dumbasses or not.

Come on …
It’s obvious conservative will manipulated information against carbon tax .
They do in many other field ….
(Covid, climate change , etc..)

Oh. Well, that's a shame.

Good news out of Newfoundland today.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...oval-1.6410509

200k more barrel's a day is great!

It's always been a bit amusing seeing the conservatives try to paint the liberals as being against drilling and exporting massive amounts of oil, but hopefully if buying Alberta their own pipeline wasn't convincing enough, this decision should be the nail in that coffin. The liberals are team petrostate. The good news is that unlike much of the Alberta tar sands, this light sweet crude has a much lower carbon cost to extract. It is exactly the type of crude that fits Cuepee's dream of exporting as much low GHG/barrel crude as possible. The bad news? The extracting cost isn't really the important part, and this crude is a barely 6% better when you actually burn it.

+1.
Yes like the right probably think they made trudeau change is mind lol ….

They paint trudeau as anti oil just to try to win vote because they have “actually nothing constructive to proclaim themselves” .

They are an empty shell , so they go with emotion and hate and deception (fake news, anti science , etc) .

It’s actually pathetic .

You keep making my point that he is a Climate Phony

Why not create the infrastructure to get current oil to market safely as well as expand drilling .

Glad to see it was approved at least there will not be a lone indigenous group out in the Ocean to protest it


Look forward to a 70 billion plus deficit today. Curious how bad the number will be

This plus 20 more projects and more nuclear gets approved under a conservative government.

It's always been a bit amusing to see you continue to be Trudeau's biggest cheerleader in this thread. Even after emissions continue to rise year after year, more oil and gas projects approved, more oil and gas produced. You've mentioned a few times your biggest issue is climate, you have mentioned numerous times you want oil to stay in the ground. You even gleefully cheered when an extremist was appointed as minister of environment. But even still they continue to increase production, so why do you still cheerlead and vote for them?

The Liberals have an approach that they are going to do a LOT of work domestically to be a world leader in reducing our domestic emissions, but that we will also be a net exporter and try to export in the most sustainable way possible, something other petrostates don't bother trying. This sort of middle way approach is inherently a compromise, and every action can be criticized from both sides. If you ever approve something, the right gives you zero credit and demands you approve more. If you make any policy to help reduce emissions, the left criticizes because you could have cut harder and not approved it. Such is life for being a centrist party.

I don't think there really is a way to truly balance everything perfectly. But I think it is reasonable to take an approach that has some realpolitick to it and says no we are not going to cut ourselves off at our knees, we are still going to export oil, judiciously, when the projects are good and go through strong environmental oversight, but at the same time we are going to launch many initiatives to try and reduce consumption domestically.

If you want to label that as "Climate Phony" while opposing doing anything like the carbon tax and cheering on oil development, that's on you.

Fwiw climate denier , Climate phony isn’t the same as
Climate pragmatism ….

And the best proof when your pragmatic is too be criticized by both side (pro and anti climate changes )

Apparently not as bad as you predicted. In the current fiscal year and years following, the deficit is also down from past projections and is set to keep reducing, with the 2022-23 deficit estimated at $52.8 billion, and declining each year following, to $8.4 billion by 2026-27.

Whether you believe it or not is your choice.

Is the immigration really the answer for fixing our economy ?
Liberal want to increase by 50k immigration to fill vacant jobs .

I mean that’s great don’t get me wrong .

But if u bring immigrants to fill out jobs of 15 an hour it ain’t enough .

I mean maybe their is too many unprofitable business that survives only because of low wages which do not help at all the government to lose its debt burden .
Those business are just surviving they won’t pay much tax either while draining huge amount of ressources imo .

15$/hour workers aren’t paying much taxes either while in return the cost of health care , education ( I figure they will get kids) , etc should far exceed the benefits of keeping alive unprofitable or break even business ….

I wish a study would look into this to how much is it really profitable to increase immigration ….
I really doubt the increase economic value exceed the social cost for that raise in immigration ?

A good number will likely be skilled trade service jobs (which are hardly $15 an hour). For various reasons there continues to be a shortage in this area, and many in these fields are getting pretty old.

Montreal those $15 hr newcomers you see are a minority. Many immigrants have to go through hoops to get here, and are educated with job experience and/or attending school here as well. Those $15 hr people you get your coffee from at Tim Hortons are usually the children or spouse of a highly educated, experienced immigrant family (how many middle aged South Asian men do you see working these $15/hr jobs?) These days are nothing like the 70s where people just show up with a few dollars and get their life going. Most people coming here are sponsored by a job, coming for education or have an existing strong education/job experience

This ofc doesn't include refugees, those fleeing persecution or spousal visas, which are all a minority of immigrants

Hopefully the majority of the 50k increase will be as u say .
Tho when I hear about jobs not being filled are usually those of 15/20$ we speak of ….

I believe about 60% of new immigrants are of economic class (permanent residents, attending school, job sponsored). The next largest group is family class (sponsoring family members, spouses) followed by refugees.

Those low end jobs not being filled are bc of existing Canadians not new ones. As I mentioned earlier, next time you're at a place that pays min wage look to see how many workers are middle aged South Asian, East Asian males.

As an aside, becoming a permanent resident here is no easy feat and every permanent resident is a plus to our economy- not a drain. Attending school for foreigners costs abt 3x as much as it does for a citizen. Anybody being sponsored by family or spouse is held responsible by the sponsor. So none of these people are a net drain. The only economic drain are refugees and dissidents and they make up the fewest. It is just a common perception that immigrants are a drain when it is really poor Canadians who are the biggest drain to our economy