Polievre will get destroyed by Charest .

If you want to feel sick, go read the comments section in zerohedge for anything Ukraine. You will want to throw up for hours.

And the convoy Instagram accounts were the same. On the IG post comparing Trudeau to Hitler (and how they are EXACTLY the same), some of their "moderates" said "let's not exaggerate, Hitler killed 6m". They were rebutted with "that didn't happen, that's fake".

Look I hate the squad, a lot of the NDP, all that. Burn that **** to the ground. But the GOP and the PPC and these people are Dunning–Kruger city. They are literally too stupid to know they're stupid. And worse than that, they believe they're smart.

We have arrived at North American "patriots" rooting for Russia? Like I said it's as nuts as conservatives rooting against law enforcement. The Qanon **** has gotten to the point where they can't hold a cohesive thread now for a minute. They're fruit flies.

To me social medias is like the “virtual street “, u can hear a lot of stupid stuff on street corners where a group of drunks , homeless , kids not in school during school hours , people out of jobs, etc …..

This whole "Canada can rescue Europe from dependence on Russian oil" bent out of conservatives and perhaps some forum posters ITT is.....weird. Let's do some quick math. Russia produces about 11% of the worlds oil, Canada 6%. But Russia uses about half of it domestically so ends up being fairly similar to Canada, and part of why Russia never gets pricing power on global oil. The main reason countries just a bit west of Russia like Germany use a lot of Russian oil specifically and not, say, Canadian oil, is about proximity and pipelines. We can't fix that. We could, say, double our exports (global warming consequences be damned) and build any domestic pipeline you wish and it still doesn't fix it. The main thing we are likely to do outside of North America is lower the price of crude being shipped to Asia through BC waters via trans mountain.

I have noticed that Poilievre has switched all this messaging to "Trudeau/Charest". He is working VERY hard to try and lump these two as being one and same and hope that hatred of Trudeau in the conservative base will bleed off onto Charest. I don't think that is going to work. For one, it doesn't make any ****ing sense.

This has a few interesting takes

https://financialpost.com/commoditie...-will-to-do-it

The article makes the point that the east coast of canada is geographically closer to germany than the gulf coast of the US. Sure. A bit. But we are talking pretty marginal differences in price between the two. Ultimately getting gas piped from russia is always going to be far cheaper than either of these.

The article does make a good point though:

As great as the "net zero by 2050" claims that Shifty likes to hold up, the producers are currently preferring to rake in cash as opposed to actually do the things they theoretically maybe someday might kinda promise.

It probably should happen because 5 billion people live in energy poverty, over 3 billion use less energy than your refrigerator. We need a lot more energy, not less.

Why would there be subsidies, we aren't talking about wind and solar.

There's an environmental cost to everything, unless you just want humans off planet earth? You don't imagine people are willing to spend money to extract oil?

Shifty , producing 3 billions refrigerators isn’t that simple ….
Meaning the need of energy u talk about might probably be implemented in much easier way than oil, for house consumption .

That’s 15 years production , and I’m not even talking the amount of energy it would required just to extract materials and shipping to destination all those refrigerators .

Easier to print money than to produce stuff right ?
You got great plans but you speak as if it just take 1-3 years to make it happened ….

It's obvious you feel threatened by Poilievre. With gas prices doubling since Trudeau took office it's obviously a great play. People notice cost of living and increased fuel prices, with oil prices not going down anytime soon it will be interesting to see what Trudeau does.

Yeah it worked out great for O'Toole playing Liberal lite.


This is just a strange childish thing to randomly throw in at the end of a post, you're on tilt which tells me Poilievre is probably on the right track.

Blaming trudeau for high oil price and inflation today ?
Lol ….

You praise alberta for their balancing budget with high oil price but than hate inflation and blame trudeau …..
Yes it would be great being able to have huge field of food without ever needing to put work in it .
All done by nature itself without human intervention……

Russia produces 11 million barrel's a day and uses 3.4 of oil, they produce 700 billion cubic meters of gas a year and use 400, they produce 800 million tons of coal a year but only use 300. The rest of Europe uses WAY more than it produces. So that's why Russia provides Europe 20%, 40%, 20% of this fossil fuels. Those numbers have drastically increased since 2016 when Putin increased production while also doubling Nuclear to use domestically while the rest of Europe shut down Nuclear and relied in Russian gas instead.

It's weird, I wonder why the US uses so much Russian oil when we could easily supply it and are just bit north. Also pipelines cause global warming?

More proof you have no idea what you are talking about and have no idea how the real world operates.

Fwiw I think it’s better to rake up all the money you can during that inflationary period (knowing it’s not sustainable) and pay down debts …..

If you don’t pay down debt when money comes in , when will you ever do ?

I wouldn’t renovate my house when all commodities are near record high , why would I with a business , shrug .

You invest when prices are depressed ( or when in recession) and interest goes down while maintaining low inflation imo .
Chasing high prices seem a bad ideas .
That is how US shale got demolished .

Ps: let’s not forget , Iran might come in any day in the market , close to 4 million barrel per day o0.
How s that for investment to gain market shares ….

Sounds like a great reason to invest more into alternate energy sources.

Gosh, I have no idea.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fos...nada-1.5987392

LDO. What's your point?

If it's going to take many decades to pay back the investment? I would hope not, for their sake.

Meanwhile, I notice you didn't reply to the part about "net zero" oil.

I will of course vote for any candidate that is the leader of the Conservatives over Justin Trudeau. Even if they brought back Scheer. I would consider voting Liberal if they had a new leader. Though I will not be voting for Kenney as I have not in the past if he leads Alberta though if he was the leader of the federal conservatives I would vote for him

You sadly vote for Justin based on his climate strategy which includes:

Increasing emissions every year
Worst performer on reducing emissions in the G7 Trump did better than JT
Buying a Pipeline
Caring more about US coal jobs than Western CDN oil workers jobs.



Amazing you say this as these are the same promises Justin makes while doing next to nothing now other than a carbon tax. The carbon tax is nothing more than a conservative tax

Reality is the Oil industry will not hit their targets just as Justin will never hit his

It's hard to take seriously that you give any shits about the environment when the person you plan to vote for a) has zero climate plan b) plans to rip up the one major climate plan trudeau actually did c) egregiously lies about the basic structure of this plan. Your only response seems to be the usual list of WHATABOUTISMS.

Maybe. But the conservatives haven't shown any indication they support this putatively conservative tax. So it is hard to take claims of this sort seriously.

True. Highest in decades. At a record high of.....3.5%. This is mostly a quirk of a globalized supply chain, nothing to do with an inherent reliance on russia. Sure, replace that 3.5% with Canadian (or American) oil if you wish. It doesn't change much.


Obviously. If more oil is getting out of the ground and being burned because of the pipelines, then that massively contributes to global warming. Amazing that you need basics like this explained to you.

Indeed. Poilievre is extremely bad while also being the massive front runner.

I also think you are right about "people notice". The reality of the carbon tax is the overwhelming majority is rebated back to people. Something like 70% of people actually come out ahead because it depends on your consumption. But because the payment mechanism comes off your taxes it is rather out of sight out of mind. But paying at the pump or buying groceries is something you do every day. So people notice the "cost" side much more than the "rebate" side. Now this shouldn't be a big deal with honest politicians who critique the plan based on what it does. However when you have dishonest politicians who pretend there is only the cost side and just never acknowledge even the existence of the rebate side, it exacerbates this dynamic.

Would you agree to this of all the parties on climate change from Strongest to weakest plans they would rank as following
Green
NDP
Liberals
Conservatives
PPC

Yes Ill vote for the person that has zero climate plans over the person that has a climate plan that will never amount to a drop in the bucket. A person that can not make the simplest most effective policy immediately in banning all coal from the USA shipping through CDN ports. World wide that may have the biggest impact. Yes he pledges everything in 10 years 20 years and 30 years. A man whose policies are dictated by were he can win or lose votes like any politician out there

Oh wait he said he would be different

The world has the solution to emissions its called Nuclear Power yet we have pipe dreams of Solar power and Wind and electric cars that will solve the problem

Here we go again !
High oil prices in Alberta and kenney solution ?

“ He said officials will work through the weekend to develop a relief plan that he hopes can be announced next week.

They are looking at many options, he said, including a cut in taxes at the pump.”

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6373777

Again taking profits and lowering taxes lol ……
Same old economic strategic failures .
Some people just don’t understand why inflation exist i suppose .

Yeah every time Keeney makes a decision it baffles me.

Though any party has a difficult road ahead

Their platform should be fiscal responsibility

Impose a Provincial sales tax
Take Notley''s strategy to the useless carbon tax and agree to it and mange it so you have full control instead of the feds
Renegotiate all public service workers contracts that they will be equal in pay to the next highest province. Instead of us being the highest always
Bring back Alberta Health Care payments and invest that money into health care
Raise the provincial sales tax 1 point below the next lowest
Bring in a Transfer tax like BC for sales of properties
Eliminate all funding for any other education system other than Public . Having two school systems Catholic and Public is just dumb. You are literally building and financing a catholic and public high school within blocks of each other

Sadly they keep thinking lowering taxes creates jobs.

I’m not sure bringing down cost of public workers would change anything , unless they clearly how the top earners of the provinces .
Which to my understanding they aren’t compare to the private sector ?

How can u be against catholic school ??
Bill 21?? Wink

Unfortunately you have swallowed one of the worst leftist ideology talking points that I keep referring to upthread.

The left believes if you can stop pipelines you will then have lower oil consumption world wide. They make no correlation that Oil in pipelines is way less (WAY) polluting than Oil in trucks and it is GOING to get to market one way or the other. They will not, just stop shipping it, because they do not have pipelines.

But it is this fundamental misunderstanding of a basic economic principle that is not the supply that is the primary driver of the demand and in fact the opposite. It is the demand that is driving the supply and that demand does not go away because we have no pipelines.

What it DOES DO, is keep prices higher allowing Shale and other harder to get resources to be targeted and extracted and it pollutes more. The exact opposite of what the left should want to happen but this misinformation (mostly fed to the left by other Oil interests who want to use them as useful idiots) endures and sadly does drive policy in much of Canada.

Oil is a global market place. When you fight against Canadian pipelines in the misguided belief that 'less CDn oil will get into the market thus VOILA we have done good things for the climate' what happens is the US ups it Russia oil and other oil purchases that come from a lot further away. So again you have more oil from Canada in trucks, and more oil coming from Russia and more shale.

The left then says 'good job. We won. We stopped AB getting pipelines'.

It is really eye roll worthy.

You would be surprised how much $$ go into public service wages

I would support Bill 21 if you fired any worker that wore a cross around their neck or had a cross tattoo or no government $ went to religious based education.