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Originally Posted by Cuepee
lozen I don't think that makes your point.
I may be wrong here and would like correction and to learn something if I am but I think all negotiations over Indigenous claims to land, such as the ones that lead to blockades, etc are with the Federal gov't regardless of Province they take place in. I am not saying the specific Province does not have a role and cannot police them but the ultimate settling of the dispute, if done, requires the Fed intervention.
The Feds are also free to use police these actions regardless of Province. And they have in the past by cracking skulls and killing protestors in pitch battles before driving them off.
In this case the truckers fall first under Provincial authority and while the Ontario gov't should have been able to handle with the OPP and Ottawa police it was clear it would be messy and potentially end in extreme violence right in the middle of a busy city.
I think the truck convey backers recognized this and relished this. They wanted pitch battles in the street and bloodshed and hopefully some collateral damage.
They mocked Trudeau and the Fed's impotence in being able to deal with their brilliant plan, assuming the Province and also the Fed's would have no clear response to avoid what was coming if they acted.
Instead Trudeau and his advisors saw an easier way that likely would avoid almost all injuries and blood shed but that the Fed's could not implement without the Emergencies Act. Just cut off their money, and quickly cash starve out their willingness to fight and make them feel the increasing out pouring of US and other foreign money coming their way was never going to reach them.
That results in a 'humph, well that changes everything' moment for the Protesters, who had begun to see this more as grift than movement. No way cutting off funds to Indigenous protestors would get them to throw in the towel so easily.
So to me, you seem to be condemning Trudeau for using the one measure he had in his tool box, that is meant to be used very rarely, in a situation where it worked beautifully because they did not use it in the past, when the Fed's did not need that authority to act, and thus why invoke it, when you already have the authority to act.
Look I hate Trudeau as much as the next guy. Hated his father too and hated Chretien after (even though I think in many ways Chretien was a very effective PM). I think Chretien and Mulroney (and Paul Martin in his short reign) were amongst the best in my life time. I worked the campaign for Peter Kemp in my Toronto district when he first tried to break into politics as Conservative, after I walked into his riding office and he took the time to sit and speak to me about why he was running.
I have certainly drifted far more liberal as I have aged, and pretty near progressive in many areas (the opposite of what they say typically happens to aging Bay Street exec's who they say are liberal when young and Conservative as they age) but this complaint against Trudeau is hollow. It reeks of sour grapes that many thought they had him, and thus Canada, stuck in a trap that would take months to unwind and in one quick move it was undone in a weekend with zero fanfare. There is a 'how dare they be so effective' type rage being exhibited now as if it was a requirement for the Fed's to fight with one hand tied behind their back and to accept the fall out from that.
I am condemning him for the original vaccine mandate for the truckers. It was a useless thing and led to the problem. I am condemning both the provincial and municipal governments for not being prepared. They knew how big the convoy was and there were signs directing the truckers to parliament hill. They could have easily erected concrete barriers to keep them out.
My problem is with freezing bank accounts
Like I said this was a failure on the Federal Government and the Provincial government and a huge failure on Municipal governments. As well the Truckers were in the wrong once they blockaded the borders.
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Look I hate Trudeau as much as the next guy. Hated his father too and hated Chretien after (even though I think in many ways Chretien was a very effective PM). I think Chretien and Mulroney (and Paul Martin in his short reign) were amongst the best in my life time.
I would agree and history will show Justin Trudeau as one of the worst.