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Originally Posted by campfirewest
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uckers-protest
What's the Canadian view on this part?
That seems wild to me. Even if you support using those measures against these protesters, don't you have to be concerned about them being used by a future government you don't agree with?
The first question is, were people involved in a criminal conspiracy? I personally have no doubt that there were (I mean, they live streamed it ffs), and if that proves to be true, then all funds relating to that conspiracy are evidence of crimes and subject to forfeiture under Canadian law.
Conspiracy is furthermore a fairly serious crime, and carries some pretty stiff penalties, including both prison time and monetary penalties. And I would expect our police agencies here to investigate and prosecute those to the fullest extent of the law.
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is our Head of State and the prime minister serves At Her Majesty's pleasure. As Her Majesty's representative in Canada, the G-G can definitely remove the prime minister.
This is actually false. The GG is the Head of State, not the Queen. However, the GG has no actual power and there is no function in law that would allow her to remove an elected government without a no confidence vote in the House.
I mean, this is a democratic nation founded on the rule of law. It's not like a Queen or a GG can just issue a royal decree or some ****.
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Originally Posted by lozen
I think you are going to get many viewpoints on this issue depending on peoples politics on this page
The facts are a majority of CDN's do not agree with the truckers blocking the border and what they are doing to the citizens of Ottawa. I would suggest in the 80-90% . Though there is a bunch of sympathy for the truckers.
Most of the money 55% is coming from the USA
We have no polls on using the emergency act but I would say that is very split. Our ACLU says the government overstepped its boundaries as have legal experts. Most of the borders were cleared with out the emergency act . I think the only one here in the LOL Canada thread that supports the Emergency Act is Uke. I am not sure if Monteroy supports the use of the act
Monteroy does make a good point about almost a guarantee that the funds would face fraud. Just look at the funds in the USA for BLM and Occupy Seattle both of those experienced fraud
https://www.wsj.com/articles/justin-...st-11645223027
Imagine if Trump had called in the military for Seattle Occupation and froze all the bank accounts of everyone participating and seized their vehicles.
Also note that if your watching US news on this neither Fox or CNN are giving you an honest portrayal of whats going on.
Many would question some of our media as well especially as some are fully funded by the government and many partially subsidized.
Again, it's important to remember that Canada is a nation of laws. Some laws are simple, others are more complex. One such complicated legal situation is how and when the federal government can become involved in a police action in a city or province that already has their own police forces. So if the Emergencies Act was required to get the job done, then so be it as far as I'm concerned.
And I would point out that it's hardly a tyrannical act when they presented the position for invoking it in the people's Parliament and our elected representatives are voting on it today. If it fails to pass then it will be struck down. Again, the right likes to point Trudeau as some kind of dictator, but he holds office only through a narrow coalition with the NDP and they could pull their support at any time.
Bottom line, the right wing created this entire 'crisis' out of whole cloth. They founded it, funded it, and organized the entire protest effort. And all of it is, of course, bullshit. The mandates the truckers are so outraged over only apply to a small percentage of them, and furthermore will be lifted in probably a matter of weeks at best. They then criticize the PM for failing to 'handle' an illegal encampment in a city and province he has only limited police powers on, all while doing everything in their power to garner more legitimacy to the protest and foment more dissent, all while criticizing the media for accurately reporting on the entire thing. The whole thing is just such a travesty I hope every single name of who made it happen comes out and they get everything that's coming to them.