Team horse, but they really should have dressed the part:

No I complained about your trolling and I have no issue if you want to engage in political discourse .

I do believe that guy is from Rebel Media I have seen some of his stuff and its generally crap. That is why I said show the whole picture and defended the police action.

I found it funny when CTV broke away from the tactical squad preparing to breach a motorhome. The reporter was describing what was happening but the higher ups removed the camera shot. They told the reporter were no longer showing the feed.

As much as I do not like Rebel Media they have a right to do what they do.

This was some serious violence and destruction. In the multi millions and attacking the police.

Pretty sure the financial cost of the border shutdown was considerably higher, but details like that get left out in their cherry picked "reporting" for some reason.

I still have no idea why they changed the back of the $50 bill. That Mountie back was great. Guess they could update it with tossing a derp in the middle!

You can say many things about lozen but this one does not seem applicable.


I suspect you are far more partisan than him. You say you will vote any of the 3 versions of 'left' but would you ever vote Conservative? I think lozen has indicated he will and has voted both left and right on many occasions.

Only the Federal police can wear the Mounty uniform but that would have been great.

Which police forces have been mobilized? Ottawa police and the OPP (which i think is the largest police force in N.America) I am guessing are both present. Did Trudeau use his Fed powers to send in the Mounties too?

Lozen has not always been a hyperpartsian. He is today. Receipt:
To be fair, his primary animus is seething, unrelenting hatred for Trudeau, not necessary "Liberals" writ large. It invades every aspect of his posting ITT, even on all the issues that lozen pretends to be more "left".

Can I just say how much I am enjoying all the clips of the #holdtheline folks really really not holding the line.

I will likely enjoy the clips of them complaining in the future of not getting any support from the various gofundme style capital raising that was done with the messaging of helping them with their glorious fight.

Apparently Tamara Lich (the organizer)'s husband in court said they were flown to ottawa in a private yet by somebody they don't even know.

This protest is often sold as just a natural uprising of the people. And there is a lot of that. But there are inklings of a lot more than just that going on behind the scenes. Hopefully with the emergency order the "follow the money" part of this is going to flush out exactly wtf is going on.

Ok Shifty, I'll pre-link to peteron's twitter feed for you: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/...c7xhoYq6G7cXqw

Except it isn't true. In BC, Bonnie Henry outlined a substantial relaxation coming up in Feb back on Jan 21. THe convoy left bc on Jan 23. I agree with Bobo earlier that the convoy might have influenced specifically the mandates to come off in some provinces a couple weeks earlier than otherwise. Maybe. At best. But the truckers didn't win this. Those restrictions were coming off regardless.

And who do we thank for that? The vaccinated.

Sadly you are not following the facts as I have voted in the last 5 Federal elections:
Conservative
Conservative
Liberal ( Trudeau)
Green
Liberal

Provincially I have voted NDP last two elections and will probably vote NDP for the third

My voting record I guarantee you has been more diverse than yours


No I just will not vote for Trudeau. If the liberals had a competent candidate I would consider them such as Mark Carney


NO I do not hate him I dislike him strongly as he duped me in 2016 to vote for him and never followed through on much and a total fraud

The freedom convoy want to end all covid related mandate ?
Not just vaccine .

Can anyone tell those bozos I’ll trust health professionals way before a guy driving a truck without even a high school diploma …

Is it that hard to understand i would not trust a doctor to drive a 12 wheels truck instead of taking one those bozos ?

If they want to decide policies, just go get elected .
That is how a democracy work ffs ..

uke, if you accept what lozen is saying about his voting would you agree he is likely less partisan than you?

Him saying he would not vote for Trudeau is not especially partisan and would be like you saying you would never vote for Harper, which I am guessing you would not take umbrage with?

Lol. Oh yes, SO different.

No. It seems him and I share the aspect of both previously voting for multiple different parties, but that isn't partisanship. It's about your words and your actions. I haven't spent the last 3 years ITT relentlessly hating on Trudeau. Everyone ITT has seen it and the body of work stands by itself.

No, he said he would vote conservative no matter who it is. As I said, I agree lozen is more motivated by his seething hatred of Trudeau that burns with the passion of a 1000 unbridled suns. Perhaps we should called it "Trudeau derangement syndrome" instead.

One aspect of the emergencies act that I hadn't realized was as important as it was: it allowed them to immediately have officers from other provinces enforce Ontario laws. That was a BIG part of the clean up the last two days with whole contingents from many other provinces. Part of the challenge for the last few weeks was Ottawa just didn't have the capacity to mass swarm this while maintaining normal policing operations in the city.

I still somewhat suspect following the money is going to be among the bigger things. Time will tell.

I think my post made it rather obvious. If they don't want to get sued then having the act back them up is preferable.

"We don't want to get sued" is probably a better justification for declaring martial law than "we want to send police across a provincial border without doing paperwork": wonder if we'll hear either reason during question period. I'd question if the court cases that will be brought up against the use of the act are preferable to class action cases resulting from police activities however.

Thankfully, I don't have an conspiracy theory wingnuts amongst my FB friends (that I know of), but I have a friend's friend is one, so I check in once in a while to see what she's posting now. Here's the latest:

So, yeah. Apparently if the Governor General gets 1 million emails - no, wait, 958,000 - she will remove Justin Trudeau from office. Um, wait, what?

How this makes sense to people is...something else. First of all, you have to buy into the idea that the G-G can do this. Then, you have to imagine that all it takes to get her to do so is ensure she gets a certain number of emails. Because, of course she'll be able to confirm those are legitimate emails that match one for one to our voters list. And then finally, once you accept those two preposterous notions, you come to the number of emails required. Apparently, the G-G just goes ahead and tosses out a duly elected PM because she gets emails from 3.5% of eligible voters. Riiight, that makes sense.

Sigh. I think I'm happy to be in my 50s and well-established enough in life to not have much of this impact me in any way. I feel bad for our kids, though.

Bobo

I have been holding this in for years.

Eli Wallach was the star of Good Bad Ugly, not Clint Eastwood.


Had to get that off my chest.

Lol Kenney endlessly being a joke is never going to stop amusing me. Here is his rather strongly worded letter demanding the federal government help him out from the protesters: https://twitter.com/DavidWCochrane/s...04868797124608. Trudeau appropriately responds to these multiple strong requests for help in this emergency with the emergencies act. Does Kenney thank him? Of course not. Instead, Kenney is wasting more Albertan resources on an empty lawsuit against using the emergencies act to solve the emergency that Kenney wanted Trudeau to help with.

The theatre is endless.

So this morning, for the first time in a very long time, there is silence in downtown ottawa. Protesters are gone (lol at #holdtheline). The trucks are all easily removed (lol at "omg the police won't figure out airbrakes).

Lozen and the rest of the conservative party spent the first 3 weeks of the occupation and blockades trying to (of course) attack Trudeau for not doing enough. But when he actually acted, he was able to empower the countries police to clean everything up in a weekend. And of course now they are mad at that two and think he should have acted but not in the way he acted to accomplish the goal he accomplished. wah wah wah.

I went quite deep in the anti-vaxxer world, through a series of extended conversations with a committed anti-vaxxer somewhat connected to my family. One moment stuck out to me. I woke up at 7 and checked my phone. ANd I had a message from literally every single hour of the night from 10:00pm to 6:00am from this guy with new links to new anti-vaxxer content. There is an entire universe out of content where you can stay in that portion of the internet and every single comment on rumble or whatever is going to be fully agreeing with you and giving you endless justification for your anti-vaxxer worldview. It was a gordian knot so large and convoluted that it isn't remotely obvious like even where or how to start picking away at the worldview. It reminded me very much of someone who spent their entire life growing up in some extreme evangelical community.

In that context what you are are sharing is tame.