So ?

700 billion to 1.2 is 58% having to deal with a far worst crisis than 2008 , having a total shutdown of the economy contrary to harper .


So I guess your saying if Harper would have to deal with a total shutdown down of the economy (worldwide!) he wouldn’t made a much bigger deficit ?

Beside harper problems wasn’t only just about money .
If u like someone closing democracy (kinda like trump tried to do) many time to not lose power is a good thing , hopefully u will like it under trudeau as well if he ever does it ?

Ps: I personally don’t like trudeau but I’m not blinded by thinking harper was any better ….

But, saying this crisis is far worse is not true? Biden's spending is roughly on par with Obama's spending during the financial crisis.

I fail to see how anyone, including Harper, could have managed to handle this crisis worse than Trudeau.


Oh and of course your math is off...it is not 58%... 500Bln out of 700bln is around 70%.

What your talking about ?
Biden spend as much as obama ?

Put numbers and years so we know what u speak of ?

The us , like Canada , send check to everyone .
Contrary to 2008 where they saved the private sector while letting millions citizens losing their main financial assets which is their homes .

How can u compare and think it would cost the same in both situation ?
It obviously can’t .


Ps: I used your numbers u spoke of 1.2 trillions .

Fwiw , I’m not blaming harper on what he had to do like I don’t really either vs trudeau cause the entire world were **** either way on both occcasion for both crisis .
Just putting context that both spend a lot of money .
It’s the same bs I often hear about pet did extremely bad but the right not mentioning Mulroney who was the worst by far for creating debts …..
Always the same garbage here as in the US, thinking the right is more responsible fiscally than the left which it isn’t true .
They both suck .

Lets be honest we be looking at another 1/2 a trillion under Castro's love child .

Comparing harper's deficits to the climate phony not even a reality

I am saying that Biden's spending has increased the US debt at roughly the same rate that Obama did. Obama takes US debt from 10Tln to 19.5Tln during his 8 years in office (an increase of 85% over those 8 years, almost 11% per year). The US debt has now climbed from 19.5Tln in 2016 to it's current 30Tln (an increase of 54% over 5 years or roughly 11% per year).

People lost their homes because they were given mortgages that shouldn't have received thanks to Clinton's policy of pushing riskier loans.

Canada does not send checks to everyone. I haven't received a nickel from Trudeau, no one I know has. All of my American friends have received their covid relief checks no matter where they are.

How can I compare? I looked at the numbers and see that the spending rate for both Presidents is roughly the same (in relative terms of increasing debt).

Yes, the current Canadian debt is 1.2Tln, it was 700Bln when Trudeau took office. That means he has increased the Canadian debt by 70% over that 6 years. DUCY?

No by the time Castro's Love Child leaves office he will have accumulated more debt than all 22 Prime Ministers before him according to Bloomberg

Not sure the Castro's Love Child thing you are trying will play much with the under 80s crowd from a messaging perspective. You going to start doing some Bay of Pigs references next?

All the best.

I’ll respond to other points later but blaming clinton for 2008 crisis, 8 years after he left office is laughable ….
There is no laws that oblige banks , credit rating , etc to force them to make unprofitable loan .
It was clearly fraud , not doing their jobs and a super bad job of the fed as well and obviously the buyers of homes having the false premise of home prices always go up .

If Clinton had any responsibility it was about some deregulation , one thing that supposedly is always good right ?
Regulations prevent good economy ?
Isn’t that what the right always says ?
So Clinton follows the principle of republicans with less regulations and he gets blame for it ?
Lol ….

If a bank gives someone’s a credit card of 25000$ to who’s not even working and the cards get load up ?
The costumers can’t pay up and finish in bankruptcy .
Who’s fault is it ? The government? Really ?

Ps: and the funny thing is harper himself try to push deregulation on the banking system in Canada in around 2006 before to imitate the US .
Thx god it didn’t get through …..

Wow watching Bill Maher last night and Castro's love child sounds like Hitler

I used the first page that came up with the video, Yeah Yeah its Breitbart

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022...eptable-views/

JT's statement is disgusting but I do believe it was on French media so many never heard it

Adding Hitler in the description mix will not help your weird catch phrase of "Castro's Love Child" get traction. Also, heh - Breitbart. Great source...

All the best.

Did I say I agree with it. I googled it and it was the first page. It has the video and a accurate write up of what was said by the Prime Minister

Would you rather I use a CBC link? So we can be told the Truckers are financed by Russia?

I chose the link that gave the facts.

Facts are more people are showing up this weekend and JT's threats to family members not working

Stay safe

I am sure you post all the weird negative stuff you find on Trudeau here, because you strongly disagree with it, right .

I also suspect your google searches will yield different results than mine. I don't think I will ever have a Breitbart article appear unless I somehow google the very specific title of it. Seems their articles appear more quickly for you for some reason, likely as you are researching for negative things about Trudeau to share here that you clearly do not agree with yourself...

Your silly Castro thing is still a slogan that will go nowhere. That is why I always suggest people like you email all the marketing suggestions you can think of to the candidates that I want to lose an election. While I doubt they will ever listen to you, I figure you should make them hear your thoughts and give them the chance to use some of your ideas!

All the best.

When Castro's love child does something good which is rare like distributing vaccines I give him praise

Sat Safe

I googled Bill Maher compares Trudeau to Hitler.

Breitbart does not appear for me at all (checked first few pages of options) for that specific search. McCleans, National Post, Daily Mail etc on the first page.

Guess you chose the source that the search engines thought you would prefer based on your prior browsing habits. Not that surprising. Your catch phrase is still bad. Feel free to email it to the Conservatives to use in the future.

All the best.

I'm glad he never met with the idiots. Capitulating to them either through a meeting would only lead to more people who 'demand' something by making a huge nuisance of themselves, and before long that gets dangerous.

We live in a democracy. Trudeau did exactly the right thing, which was to go to Parliament and answer questions about the entire issue from Bergen during Question Period. That's how the system is supposed to work.

This is nonsense. Even a child would understand that the covid-19 situation was a major economic event that warranted extraordinary measures. It was, in effect, a war. A war for sure against a microscopic enemy, but a war just the same. And when you're in a war you do what's necessary to win, regardless of the cost. Because the other option is losing everything. And if it means borrowing a few hundred billion from yourself (at practically zero interest) to be paid back in 50 or 100 years, it's worth it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

We as a nation are actually very fortunate that we had this particular government in office when the pandemic hit. Things could have gone south all the way into another Great Depression, but instead all signs point to an upcoming boom as we along with the other the nations of the world dig ourselves out. I give credit to this government for being instrumental in making that happen. And for sure people will say that leader X or leader Y could have done better, but the fact remains that X or Y weren't in office for covid-19, and Trudeau and his team were. So thanks to them the vast majority of us will make it to the other side both a) alive and b) not bankrupt, and we should be thankful for that.

Also:

I get that you don't like Trudeau, but if you want to call someone's mother a whore, you should really have the guts to do it to their face.

Even Bill Maher think Trudeau sounds like Hitler.

Did he mention Castro?

All the best.

Oh but the Liberals had no problems meeting with folks that blocked a railroad??

I have never said he should meet with them I asked if he should.


Someone that has an affair is not whore by the way

Funny how the feminist kicks two women out of the party that speak against him but says nothing when two men do it . Go figure

Question for you .
Let’s say we abandon everything , every mandate.
Return to normal tomorrow .

Huge spike in hospitalization happens (again..) , cancelling thousands of surgeries , etc . To take care of covid cases until the system break , that is a great alternative for you obviously.

Ok so what’s the solution ?
We do nothing and let the healthcare system crash and just cross the border to get medical care to the us ?

But why did alberta didn’t follow with that plan last summer and why did they were asking help all over other provinces ?
Since it was a great place to be righ ?

And if it’s not the result you want , what are u proposing for a solution ?
Unless u just do small politics and just complain without any alternative?

What a ****ed up world we live in. I go to twitter and they have one of those fact check placards at the top of trending clarifying that no, Trudeau is not the son of fidel castro as right wing twitter is being oh so clever and funny to pretend.

Come to this thread, and lozen is full on "son of Castro" up and down the thread. Like seriously, is there no right wing twitter fad blasting Trudeau that lozen doesn't immediately start parroting?

Ya I have absolutely zero, zero qualms with Trudeau saying that antivaxxers hold unacceptable views. They do. It's the truth. Politicians should say the truth more often, not less. That isn't being like hitler ffs.

Damn, great points. Maybe we need a 362 day circuit breaker until people get their 3rd/4th booster (especially kids under 5). With double masking even triple in some cases with full time at home learning for all education levels, I also believe 8 feet for social distancing would be an improvement. Because WHAT IF! Right.

Never a doubt this was your view point. Im sure most card carrying socialist have the same one.

Heh, I thought Lozen was trying to be clever and came up with that eye rolling thing. I should have known he passively consumed it in the derposphere and parroted it here after.

Easier when they use very low level emotional hyperbole like the two posts above this to know when the person writing them is actually creating the message for themselves.

No question I had to watch Tucker's coverage of the Trucker strike its as biased as the CBC . That is exactly were I got Castro's Love Child from . Better than the CBC seeing a person named vladamir donated $30 and saying Russia is backing the truckers or the Climate Phony calling anti-vaxxers racist and white supremacists.

In in case you missed it $50 to Heart Prints Dog Rescue $20 seemed cheap