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02-11-2022 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You should go get triple vaxxed today. The booster significant cuts down on transmission compared to the double shot. Don't wait for the omicron-specific booster.
Actually doctors recommend if you have had the Omicron variant wait 3 months before getting the booster. I am very sure I had it in Early Jan but testing was and still not available. DR Hinshaw here says if you think you had it assume you did

https://www.tricitynews.com/coronavi...s-naci-5029744
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02-11-2022 , 10:06 AM
So at what point do people stop blaming truckers and turn there attention to a Federal Government that to this date has done nothing.

What are we up to 4 federal border crossings blocked.?
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02-11-2022 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Actually doctors recommend if you have had the Omicron variant wait 3 months before getting the booster. I am very sure I had it in Early Jan but testing was and still not available. DR Hinshaw here says if you think you had it assume you did

https://www.tricitynews.com/coronavi...s-naci-5029744
ah fair
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02-11-2022 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So at what point do people stop blaming truckers and turn there attention to a Federal Government that to this date has done nothing.

What are we up to 4 federal border crossings blocked.?
I'm not sure about this (genuinely). Early on, I believe that Justin Trudeau broadly speaking should do as little as possible. Keep it apolitical. Ottawa police and RCMP don't (and shouldn't) take directives from politicians of any level. Perhaps you pass a bill giving more money to the city of ottawa to compensate for increased policing costs, but mostly this is courts put in place injunctions and police enforce them and politicians STFU.

If I'm wrong about that, and trudeau should do something, what precisely should he do?

You spoke earlier that nazi and confederate flags and white supremecy while all present in the convoy are not the majority by a long shot and shouldn't be characterized as defining them. I agree. But what IS completely omnipresent is "**** trudeau". THe convoy is seemly as motivated by massive, massive unrelenting hatred for trudeau as much if not more so than anything to do with vaccines. Heck, you'd fit right in in half the signs. So being as apolotical as possible seems appropriate. The actions of these protesters are completely wrong and should stop immediately regardless of what anyone thinks of trudeau.
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02-11-2022 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I'm not sure about this (genuinely). Early on, I believe that Justin Trudeau broadly speaking should do as little as possible. Keep it apolitical. Ottawa police and RCMP don't (and shouldn't) take directives from politicians of any level. Perhaps you pass a bill giving more money to the city of ottawa to compensate for increased policing costs, but mostly this is courts put in place injunctions and police enforce them and politicians STFU.

If I'm wrong about that, and trudeau should do something, what precisely should he do?

You spoke earlier that nazi and confederate flags and white supremecy while all present in the convoy are not the majority by a long shot and shouldn't be characterized as defining them. I agree. But what IS completely omnipresent is "**** trudeau". THe convoy is seemly as motivated by massive, massive unrelenting hatred for trudeau as much if not more so than anything to do with vaccines. Heck, you'd fit right in in half the signs. So being as apolotical as possible seems appropriate. The actions of these protesters are completely wrong and should stop immediately regardless of what anyone thinks of trudeau.

Yes but border crossings as much as they are in provinces fall under federal control. Many look at Ottawa as federal as they are near parliament. I am just asking does the anger start to turn towards the political figures doing nothing.

Im not sure how I would fit in with these protesters. I would never put a sticker or fly a flag that says Fxxk Justin Trudeau. I do not agree with their efforts in blocking borders or what they are doing to the citizens of Ottawa

I only blame them for creating the issue by putting a policy in place that never had to be in place. Even if the USA had not why now? Were at a 90% vaccination rate a world leader. Truckers are the one job were they are in a quarantine atmosphere. As well vaccines do very little from you catching the new strain or spreading it.


As for the Politicians just need to STFU the federal government never did that with rail blockades. They met with them. Calling anti vaxxers racists and his Nazis on the corners comments do not help either.

My guess is this weekend not going to get much better. I have no clue what the solution is other than the military or removing the vaccine mandates and even that may not get them to leave. There request for JT to resign is nuts. That is what elections are for
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02-11-2022 , 03:20 PM
What specific action do you think the federal government should take?
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02-11-2022 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
As well vaccines do very little from you catching the new strain or spreading it.
This is somewhere between false and misleading. It is time dependent. CHeck out this graph of incidence: https://twitter.com/acoyne/status/14...344960/photo/1

Vaccines HAVE been very good at preventing incidence of covid throughout this pandemic. THere was a brief period of time when most people's second dose was waning and omicron hit that incidence dropped. As you can see in the graph as people have build up 3rd doses, incidence is dropping way off again.
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02-11-2022 , 03:35 PM


I asked my kids what they wanted to do after school today, they said throw away all of their masks. Thanks truckers.
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02-11-2022 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
What specific action do you think the federal government should take?
I have no idea other than meeting with truckers or removing the mandates both of which he will not do and those may not achieve the result either

The military or wait them out seem like the only two now
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02-11-2022 , 03:38 PM
My 4 year old is in love with the truckers. He thinks a long line of construction trucks honking is ****ing awesome. Best part of christmas was a trucker christmas light parade for him

edit: also is totally awesome at wearing his mask indoors in public settings. Zero issues.

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02-11-2022 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I have no idea other than meeting with truckers or removing the mandates both of which he will not do and those may not achieve the result either

The military or wait them out seem like the only two now
Exactly. It is easy to say "Trudeau should do something". Pretty hard to come up with something he should actually do.

Meeting with protesters is obviously something you have never suggested previously like with indigenous blockades. These are people who literally had a mission statement to overthrow the democratic process in some bizarre protester/GG/Senate led take over. Sitting down with them is one of those cute things that sounds reasonable until you think for 30 seconds and obviously will never happen nor accomplish something. You think blockaders are leaving if Trudeau walks out in the crowd ala BLM for 5 minutes? Of course not.

And cancelling the policy, again will accomplish very little. Did the protests in Alberta stop when Kenney capitulated and gave them 100% of every single thing they wanted? Of course not. These people will be entrenched by any victory, not dissuaded.

You can only dissuade them with force. Military option is the one thing he could actually do, but I think it is too soon for that. Courts + Police. That's the solution.
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02-11-2022 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Exactly. It is easy to say "Trudeau should do something". Pretty hard to come up with something he should actually do.

Meeting with protesters is obviously something you have never suggested previously like with indigenous blockades. These are people who literally had a mission statement to overthrow the democratic process in some bizarre protester/GG/Senate led take over. Sitting down with them is one of those cute things that sounds reasonable until you think for 30 seconds and obviously will never happen nor accomplish something. You think blockaders are leaving if Trudeau walks out in the crowd ala BLM for 5 minutes? Of course not.

And cancelling the policy, again will accomplish very little. Did the protests in Alberta stop when Kenney capitulated and gave them 100% of every single thing they wanted? Of course not. These people will be entrenched by any victory, not dissuaded.

You can only dissuade them with force. Military option is the one thing he could actually do, but I think it is too soon for that. Courts + Police. That's the solution.

No my question was will folks start to shift the blame from Truckers to JT. Originally it was just a protest over the mandates and has grown. Agreed their requests are nuts

At this point I hope they have barricades in place around the area not letting anyone new in this weekend.

They seem to be very well organized though adding new border crossings into the mix
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02-11-2022 , 03:59 PM
There are a lot of conservatives in this thread and in this country who relentlessly blame Trudeau for everything and everything, regardless of whether they can even suggest a single actual thing that he should be doing differently. So sure, if your point is that a lot of conservatives will start "shifting the blame" to JT well sure obviously that will happen. I'm sure your seething hatred of Trudeau will cause you to blame him soon enough if you aren't already.

The point remains that actual concrete suggestions of what he could do differently are few and far removed between attempts to blame him.
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02-11-2022 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
There are a lot of conservatives in this thread and in this country who relentlessly blame Trudeau for everything and everything, regardless of whether they can even suggest a single actual thing that he should be doing differently.
That's what the opposition does.....this isn't some new phenomenon. Were you not paying attention during the Harper era or Trump administration?
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02-11-2022 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
There are a lot of conservatives in this thread and in this country who relentlessly blame Trudeau for everything and everything, regardless of whether they can even suggest a single actual thing that he should be doing differently. So sure, if your point is that a lot of conservatives will start "shifting the blame" to JT well sure obviously that will happen. I'm sure your seething hatred of Trudeau will cause you to blame him soon enough if you aren't already.

The point remains that actual concrete suggestions of what he could do differently are few and far removed between attempts to blame him.
I do believe two of his own sitting caucus members have some issues as well.
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02-11-2022 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
That's what the opposition does.....this isn't some new phenomenon. Were you not paying attention during the Harper era or Trump administration?
I am not sure Uke realizes that. When the Conservatives were in power it was all about a expensive glass of Orange Juice and Peter Mckay using a military plane. Those were the scandals of the time .
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02-11-2022 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No my question was will folks start to shift the blame from Truckers to JT.
Depends on who you mean. For many people living in Ottawa or other cities who are directly affected by this, of course. As time goes on, people (understandably) lose patience, and look to the government and police to do something.

For everyone else? No. The minority who want their freedumbs are already fully behind the protestors and think JT is an evil dictator. The majority think the protestors are out of their minds and ****ing everything up. Their feelings on what should be done will be on a spectrum from waiting them out to bringing in the military on day one, and some will criticize government for being on the wrong place of that spectrum, but the lion's share of the blame for this nonsense will of course remain with the protestors, deservedly so.
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02-11-2022 , 05:13 PM
Glad to hear that your relentless, vapid, anti-trudeau spewing ITT is nothing more than just 'the opposition doing what the opposition does'.
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02-11-2022 , 05:18 PM
Well I saw our leaders press conference and what I took from it. Its not our place to tell the police what to do but if you do not go home will make sure you all have criminal records and never work again

May work?
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02-11-2022 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I am not sure Uke realizes that. When the Conservatives were in power it was all about a expensive glass of Orange Juice and Peter Mckay using a military plane. Those were the scandals of the time .
Really ?
I thought the interdiction of any scientist and a huge bunch of people in government wernt allowed to speak ,
falsified reports (transforming a No to a yes ) from government by a minister ,
the total failure of money lending to NEwfoundland to buy votes for muskrat fall is one of the biggest pitfall of money ever and still have to deal with it still today .
People Complain how much money trudeau spend during pandemic but about harper in 2008 for the gfc ?

U need more ?
I got a ton …

Fwiw , more u beat down on trudeau more U beat down indirectly on harper cause he didn’t take much more then trudeau to take harper out ….
That is how bad harper was at the end .

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02-11-2022 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Really ?
I thought the interdiction of any scientist and a huge bunch of people in government wernt allowed to speak ,
falsified reports (transforming a No to a yes ) from government by a minister ,
the total failure of money lending to NEwfoundland to buy votes for muskrat fall is one of the biggest pitfall of money ever and still have to deal with it still today .
People Complain how much money trudeau spend during pandemic but about harper in 2008 for the gfc ?

U need more ?
I got a ton …

Fwiw , more u beat down on trudeau more U beat down indirectly on harper cause he didn’t take much more then trudeau to take harper out ….
That is how bad harper was at the end .

And it was one of the reasons I voted Green in 2012? and Trudeau in 2016 ?

Show me one post were I have said Harper was good. Id take Harper over Trudeau in a heartbeat though

I am sure glad the Liberals are not pumping money into Muskrat Falls to buy votes . Oh wait




What is GFC by the way?
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02-11-2022 , 06:17 PM
how ****ing sick is it that conservatives ITT are trying to twist opposition to Harper's lost decade in power as nothing more than being a tad annoyed at the odious bev oda and her high spending ways.
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02-11-2022 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
And it was one of the reasons I voted Green in 2012? and Trudeau in 2016 ?

Show me one post were I have said Harper was good. Id take Harper over Trudeau in a heartbeat though
That cost you $20! Hey, I already donated $200 (albeit to a charity I donate to regularly anyways), but be sure to toss $20 to the charity of your choice and congrats for holding out for 1-2 days as best you could!

All the best.
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02-11-2022 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
And it was one of the reasons I voted Green in 2012? and Trudeau in 2016 ?

Show me one post were I have said Harper was good. Id take Harper over Trudeau in a heartbeat though

I am sure glad the Liberals are not pumping money into Muskrat Falls to buy votes . Oh wait




What is GFC by the way?
Well u turn harper years into a an easy walk which clearly it wasn’t , by not stipulate all the **** it went down during is “reign” ….

Hell ffs is close down twice ! Twice the parlement to not go in election or lose power !!!
Wtf …..that is not a big deal ?????
On some point he was almost as anti democratic as trump .


Ps: Great financial crisis 2008 =gfc
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02-11-2022 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Really ?
I thought the interdiction of any scientist and a huge bunch of people in government wernt allowed to speak ,
falsified reports (transforming a No to a yes ) from government by a minister ,
the total failure of money lending to NEwfoundland to buy votes for muskrat fall is one of the biggest pitfall of money ever and still have to deal with it still today .
People Complain how much money trudeau spend during pandemic but about harper in 2008 for the gfc ?

U need more ?
I got a ton …

Fwiw , more u beat down on trudeau more U beat down indirectly on harper cause he didn’t take much more then trudeau to take harper out ….
That is how bad harper was at the end .


Hmmm, a simple Google search yields that the Canadian Debt rose from just over 500Bln to nearly 700Bln from 2008 to 2015 (a 40% increase in 7 years under Harper). During that same 7 year window the US debt rose from 10Tln to 18Tln (Under Obama).

Trudeau has taken Canadian the Canadian Debt from 700Bln in 2015 to 1.2Tn and 2022 isn't even finished yet. All the while promising Paul Martin like surpluses.

We get it, you hate Harper, but the numbers don't care about your feelings.
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