Yeah, I'm sure their odds were already high before yesterday, but Panama losing really makes it extremely tough for them to displace anyone in the top 3. Can't wait to see if we can at least score a goal in the World Cup this time!

As well Panama has a ton of tough games Mexico, USA and I do believe Canada

Oh Canada!

These aged well over the past few days since posted. That is unless Spotify has enjoyed losing $4 billion in market value with many other artists leaving or threatening to leave. Guess they can be LOLed away as well or something...

https://americansongwriter.com/spoti...parting-swirl/

Anyway, LOL at Rogan apologizing to Spotify about this.

All the best.

What's aged well about it? It's still lol at Neil Young. Rogan's response:

Glad you asked as you spammed some of that alt right Derpbert dude (hey, at least he has followers, most of the derpy stuff you passive consumers link are from randos fed to you through profiling). I stated with some snark that it aged well, because it was another example of a derp reacting to something in a derpy manner, and as you and most people here know - my strategy is essentially the following:

See Derp Talk. Talk Derp Talk.
Derp says up - we bet down.
Derp says down - we bet up.
Thanks derp thanks.

Thus, it is always entertaining (though kind of normal by now) when derps laugh away something as lacking consequences without ever thinking about potential consequences. After that they find all sorts of derpy Twitter stuff to double down on their beliefs, and in 2020 this bought me a nice new house. Thanks derps thanks.

All the best.

Joe Rogan is a complete buffoon when it comes to vaccines.

Glad spotify put the hammer on him behind the scenes.

You will listen to Joe Rogan about vaccines but you won't listen to doctors about vaccines. If you end up in the hospital, I am sure you will ask for Rogan to treat you.

Love him or hate him I thought it was a good response.

It amazes me how the left does not point out the 3 other doctors he had on his show as well. Just the controversial ones

I was watching MSNBC today and Stephanie Rhule equated him to Fox and said those advertisers just like their big dollars as NBC broadcasts the Olympics from China

The man has literally never voted for the GOP and wishes Michelle Obama runs for president is right wing

Sadly most of the folks that trash him have never listened to his podcast.

I listened to a few of his podcasts, and he is good at what he does as a podcaster.


His views about vaccines are just buffoonery.

Pretty much with Tien on this one, which is not something I have posted that often!

I also have listened to some of his podcasts, and the guy is literally world class at that profession. I thought he was a great commentator for the UFC as well (helps make an often times dull to watch product interesting). He has a very charismatic presentation style, without having to look like a bad used car salesperson like most personalities on the alt-right (pillow guy, all the radio derps that croaked from Covid etc.) Thing is, he is a complete derp regarding vaccines, and given how many followers he has - that does have consequences.

Also, LOL at Lozen's latest whataboutism stuff. At least it did not have Trudeau in it this time! Edit to add: Trudeau just tested positive for Covid, so you have to be able to use that for something Lozen!

I think we agree on more things than not if we laid positions down on the table.

I can be a dick online, much nicer in person.

Hey I agree with Tien as well on his position on Vaccines. I pick and choose the topics to listen to. Just listened to Knees over Toes. Though he has had some great guests on Covid as well
As for the whataboutism. Yeah I will use it against the Media that is more threatened by him than the truth.

As for Trudeau testing positive I wish him a speedy recovery so he can continue to destroy the country

To be fair, if i had a family member who got Covid and it became apparent early they were declining and they did have comorbidities I would want the Joe Rogan or Donald Trump cocktail for them over what typically they would be limited to in a normal hospital setting. I am saying as 'additional'.


The reason is that hospitals and doctors have to stick tightly to only what it approved whereas a POTUS or any rich person can and do get any of the top experimental stuff in trials before it is approved.

So you can have all the top doctors in the world saying 'this treatment looks fantastic for this form of Cancer. These results look amazing' but until it winds its way thru a 2plus year process few but the few trial participants and the rich and powerful can get it.

And that is reasonable when it comes to Joe average as they cannot allow the 'Masses' to take it and then it turns out to have some terrible side effect, but in an experimental pool that is ok.


I've told the story before of my cousin who married a very rich guy, and she had lived her entire adult life fighting one form of devastating cancer after another. Brain, Liver, Spine, etc, etc. She has a book written about her and has been featured on so many big TV shows for her amazing survival story as even the doctors throw their hands up and just say 'miracle' or 'they cannot say what worked for her', as she was given so many death sentences over the years (3 months to live, etc) and yet she lived 30 years longer only finally succumbing last year in her 50's and not in her 20's as she was first told.

It is almost certainly though some mix of the cocktail of top experimental drugs she got access to via her husband taking her to a top California based private clinic who then referred her to Mexico based cancer care facility where the California could recommend some top experimental drugs they could get access to there that they would have been blocked in getting in Canada or the US. Her husband spent millions getting her all the top recommended experimental drugs and something worked.

I would do same for a dying family member. I would want to know what cocktail Trump and Christie and Rogan are taking if I thought a family member was at very real risk of death.

Ya the lefts desire to paint Joe as Right wing is not reasonable. he is a solid lefty but many want to believe if they dislike someone they must be politically opposed.

It is fine to call him a misguided lefty, if that is ones view, and then dislike him.

Sure, but that is a fairly artificial no lose situation so if their cocktail included some prayer then maybe even d2 would consider it in that situation. Well, ok, maybe not that, but you get the point.

A friend of mine decades ago who was doing about normal for those days (low six figures a year, no family wealth) was diagnosed with essentially untreatable cancer and was given the months to live speech, and was then offered a spot in a study of some medicine cocktail. Complete guinea pig situation for a relatively untested product, but they jumped on it. 20 people went into the trial, and he was the only one who lived through it (6 months) and went into complete remission and they still have no idea why to this day.

Obviously the mega rich will have access to things, but these types of trials do happen and my friend got lucky that his doctor was aware of it, and even if all 20 knew that 19 would die in the trial I assume all 20 would still rush in, because nothing to lose in that case. Not sure that approach for untested medicine is applicable outside that pretty narrow set of conditions, though sometimes the person's position (ie: President) will be a huge factor as well. Not like Herman Cain got the same treatment, and he was hardly destitute. He did get an award named after him, so there is that.

I recall one clip where Rohan was going on about myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine and the guess pointed out you had substantially worse risk of myocarditis from Covid and Rogan just couldn’t believe he was wrong. It was hilarious. Guys a buffoon.

I listened to a few episodes years ago before he was controversial in the way he is now and really just nothing special imo. My time spent better on other things;/ Id you love the guy, power to you, but ignore him on covid

Joe isn't right. Thats what I don't like. They are trying to pin him. Just if you are have one point of the right that you agree with you're a trumper q nutter, one left you're a Stalin crazy. Nobody is left or right when he believes something. The left is highly hypocratical. Can't say anything. Say something boom, they jump all over you for no good reason. Say israel attacked unfairly Palestine you're an anti semite. Talk about saudi Arabia nobody listens. They are all hypocrates. Both of them. All are idiots, What else is do you expect?

Are you ok? You seem unhinged. So you can't explain how Joe Rogan cost Spotify 4 billion. If you want you can just admit you spread propaganda and we can move on.

Their share price dropped by 25%, which was a drop of $4 billion. Obviously changes like that often have a rebound (especially if they work to resolve the situation), but that drop clearly caused a concern to a large company, and with good reason. Not sure why you think this claim is unhinged - here is a businessinsider.com accounting of the situation. Perhaps they are unhinged as well.

https://www.businessinsider.com/spot...s-music-2022-1

Anyways, you have some alt-right stuff to consume passively so go to it and come back with your reporting of what you are told to believe. My very successful wagering strategy uses people like you, so know your role and the important hot takes you provide. Thanks!

All the best.

that is not a fair thing to say.

People can be given selectively curated info by people they trust not to do that and get fooled.

His search for the truth seems very genuine and as an everyman that should be applauded.

it is only because his platform is so big now, that he has an added element of responsibility to ensure he seeks diversity of view especially when his views see to run counter to the main stream views and especially science.

He seems to have listened to that complaint and is now considering how to operationalize that.

And that episode you are referring to specifically he was very open to being corrected. You could see at first he was surprised at what was being said as it had directly conflicted data he was given (or misremembered) from prior research. But he was willing to pull it up, look and then corrected himself after some minor flailing and rationalizations.

FWIW Spotify's share drop is almost certainly far more impacted by the general stock market drop and more specifically the Nasdaq Tech drop and if the Rogan thing plays any part it will be a rounding error on that.

Correct that was an episode with Dr Ghupta I do believe. It was a great episode but even that one the left media picked out 15-30 seconds to fit their narrative. In that episode Dr Gupta agreed that cloth masks do very little.

Sadly folks like Uke believe what Maddow and Stelter say as fact all the time

Yeah, what about that left media!


Well, looking at this moment at the ytd stats (including the recovery today as of this post) - the Nasdaq index has lost about 8.9% of its value, while Spotify shares have lost about 18.5% of their value.

Obviously the macro changes had some impact, but the threat of the list of artists that suggested they may leave a music streaming site was hardly a footnote in their day to day operations.

I get why the derps did the LOL at Neil Young and likely Joni Mitchell. Great careers and all, but "stupid libs" will be their first reaction, and those two in isolation would be pretty much a footnote. However the derps never go past their base reactions to consider if others may join in on that to send a message (whether the message is correct or not) and what impact will that have if that happens (as it did).

Sure but Spotify is more closely associated with FANG within the Nasdaq more specifically.


And i know this more specifically as I have been looking at what Stocks I think are a good buy now with the recent fall of FANG and 'near FANG' stock.

Spotify was one on my radar until I looked more deeply and saw the trend even pre this current blip (began last Nov), as it looks like Spotify may have been perceived to have been over valued generally and was in the process of finding a new floor and reset and this blip just accelerated the inevitable.