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01-05-2022 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Canada got almost no effect because let’s say for fun Canada drop massively it’s production , others like Saudi will just produce more .
Fwiw, Climate change probably won’t be solve by 1 magic solution but a multitudes of little ones where carbon tax fits right in .
That is why what Canada does will have no effect other than destroy CDN jobs oh wait Alberta & Sask jobs.

When you have the largest emitters have to do nothing till 2030 your fighting a losing battle.

Though as a country if we all switched to cardboard water bottles we may be able to save the planet

#dontlookup
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01-05-2022 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
If you're laid off bc covid just go on the gov website and fill in the blanks. I believe your employer has to send your record of employment to the government
Only about half a billion in known fraud so far

Businesses get help as well and payments for workers is 2k a month. It gets passed as emergency funding I guess so doesn't take long
Would imagine those people are very pro-lockdown. Not to sound jaded but beats dealing with customers in service industry (although Canadiens probably nicer than Americans in that regard)
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01-05-2022 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Would imagine those people are very pro-lockdown. Not to sound jaded but beats dealing with customers in service industry (although Canadiens probably nicer than Americans in that regard)
Just like teachers, way easier to sit at home and get paid to do nothing. I am sure schools are being closed because teachers unions have way too much power.
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01-05-2022 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Just like teachers, way easier to sit at home and get paid to do nothing. I am sure schools are being closed because teachers unions have way too much power.

Yeah more in the USA than hear. Though if we had testing and N95 masks them damn teachers would have no excuse.

I love teachers by the way My sister is a retired one and its a thankless job and in the USA a crappy paying job
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01-05-2022 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
That is why what Canada does will have no effect other than destroy CDN jobs oh wait Alberta & Sask jobs.

When you have the largest emitters have to do nothing till 2030 your fighting a losing battle.

Though as a country if we all switched to cardboard water bottles we may be able to save the planet

#dontlookup
Fwiw , I believe an industry like oil and gas being between 5% to 10% of gdp is high enough .
What’s the real gain of having massive investments in oil long term ?
That sector is not sustainable long term right ?
I think we all know about this for many reasons ?

Oil is already causing massive inflation in our economy .
All around the world we hear about it right ?
So you know already , massive headwind by different factors , will be toward that sector of the economy .
So any long term investment toward oil makes no sense to me .

You can’t run an entire national economy with only 2-5 years horizon ahead just to advantage a small portion of the economy (8% oil ) if it end up doing far more damage to the rest of the economy ….

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia..../manufacturing

« By the 2000s, the manufacturing sector had declined significantly. Between 2004 and 2008, about one in seven (or 322,000) manufacturing jobs had disappeared ».

A time where big oil and can dollar was bit higher than US dollar .

Yes it’s great to have a high dollar , when you actually have a job , even more so when those that already at the highest earners in Canada , wants to pay even less tax on profits …..and still complaining g of the unfairness of the system , even tho again they already are profiting the most of our economy ???


Didn’t the US shall totally got rekt because of this ?
They went massive borrowing (interest rates are low for over a decade) for cheap money to expend production when oil price were high and when oil went down , they got bankrupt or close to it .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...03b_story.html

« The production boom propelled the U.S. to become the world’s largest producer of both oil and gas. But in doing so, explorers burned through some $342 billion of cash since 2010, leaving little in the way of returns for investors. The biggest oilfield service and equipment companies invested roughly $85 billion in their businesses over the past decade, only to see their earnings fall by $4.7 billion and net debt climb by $19 billion in that same period, according to an Evercore study in February ».
(Great article) .

You need a long term plan .
So what’s your plan to lower price from the supply side ,
since you seem to think to try lowering the demands side is wrong ?
Unless you have other ideas than tax to lower the demand side ?

And if lowering prices of oil is non important then please stop complaining trudeau does nothing to fight inflation ….?

All you seem to say is , we want more money , we want less tax , we want more jobs .
Bravo but who do not want that ?

But would you accept a raise in tax if by letting you do what you want , to pay for the disaster of the manufacturing sector ?

My point , amazing profits and huge increased of % gdp from oil is just profitable for a small part of the economy and population .


Jobs creation isn’t just about Will and skills , it’s about if the value of your currency actually permits certain job to exist ….
Why you think some sector like agriculture needs foreign workers to do the jobs ?
Imagine what will happen with an even oil prices and higher inflation in a period where workers are lacking ?
Even more business closing down , not able to afford higher wages …..

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 01-05-2022 at 06:27 PM.
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01-05-2022 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Fwiw , I believe an industry like oil and gas being between 5% to 10% of gdp is high enough .
What’s the real gain of having massive investments in oil long term ?
That sector is not sustainable long term right ?
I think we all know about this for many reasons ?

Oil is already causing massive inflation in our economy .
All around the world we hear about it right ?
So you know already , massive headwind by different factors , will be toward that sector of the economy .
So any long term investment toward oil makes no sense to me .

You can’t run an entire national economy with only 2-5 years horizon ahead just to advantage a small portion of the economy (8% oil ) if it end up doing far more damage to the rest of the economy ….

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia..../manufacturing

« By the 2000s, the manufacturing sector had declined significantly. Between 2004 and 2008, about one in seven (or 322,000) manufacturing jobs had disappeared ».

A time where big oil and can dollar was bit higher than US dollar .

Yes it’s great to have a high dollar , when you actually have a job , even more so when those that already at the highest earners in Canada , wants to pay even less tax on profits …..and still complaining g of the unfairness of the system , even tho again they already are profiting the most of our economy ???


Didn’t the US shall totally got rekt because of this ?
They went massive borrowing (interest rates are low for over a decade) for cheap money to expend production when oil price were high and when oil went down , they got bankrupt or close to it .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...03b_story.html

« The production boom propelled the U.S. to become the world’s largest producer of both oil and gas. But in doing so, explorers burned through some $342 billion of cash since 2010, leaving little in the way of returns for investors. The biggest oilfield service and equipment companies invested roughly $85 billion in their businesses over the past decade, only to see their earnings fall by $4.7 billion and net debt climb by $19 billion in that same period, according to an Evercore study in February ».
(Great article) .

You need a long term plan .
So what’s your plan to lower price from the supply side ,
since you seem to think to try lowering the demands side is wrong ?
Unless you have other ideas than tax to lower the demand side ?

And if lowering prices of oil is non important then please stop complaining trudeau does nothing to fight inflation ….?

All you seem to say is , we want more money , we want less tax , we want more jobs .
Bravo but who do not want that ?

But would you accept a raise in tax if by letting you do what you want , to pay for the disaster of the manufacturing sector ?

My point , amazing profits and huge increased of % gdp from oil is just profitable for a small part of the economy and population .


Jobs creation isn’t just about Will and skills , it’s about if the value of your currency actually permits certain job to exist ….
Why you think some sector like agriculture needs foreign workers to do the jobs ?
Imagine what will happen with an even oil prices and higher inflation in a period where workers are lacking ?
Even more business closing down , not able to afford higher wages …..
Hey I appreciate your long reply but my main point is JT's carbon tax will do nothing to save the planet

My point is I am against destroying CDN jobs while boosting Authoritarian countries economies over Canada as in Justin shipping US coal to China and Biden cancelling Keystone but approving Nordstrom

When do you see all of CDN's driving electric cars? Hey I am proud to say my new homes I built have Electric Vehicle plug ins . Though Only on the high end homes. It was great to see a homeowner that bought one of my previously built homes have his Tesla plugged in . Though I do not see the rural farmer driving an electric truck in my lifetime I hope I am wrong
Though we face another issue electrical demand . We just do not have the infrastructure in place for electric vehicles

My point is any PM that only targets western CDN jobs with his climate strategy is a fraud.

He is a fraud on Climate Change, Indigenous issues, Sexual assault in the military, clean drinking water, so called pro feminist

Yes Monteroy I dislike JT
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01-05-2022 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Just like teachers, way easier to sit at home and get paid to do nothing. I am sure schools are being closed because teachers unions have way too much power.
And you're sure of that based on, what exactly?

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Originally Posted by lozen
Yeah more in the USA than hear. Though if we had testing and N95 masks them damn teachers would have no excuse.

I love teachers by the way My sister is a retired one and its a thankless job and in the USA a crappy paying job
So you posted the first paragraph because...?
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01-06-2022 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen

What has me baffled is Canada procured 112 million test kits which means there should be 3 per every CDN yet .....

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ed-supply.html

Agh figured out my own question. When the Government announces 140 million new tests they do not mean test kits . There are 5 tests per box so its actually 28 million test kits in late Jan
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01-06-2022 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
And you're sure of that based on, what exactly
-Teacher Unions being the most outspoken group in favor of closures
-Teachers Unions in the US voting heavily infavor of closures
-No other groups seem to be in favor of it.
-Parents that have already been sending their kids to school are aware and comfortable with the risks.
-The medical community seems to be infavor of keeping schools open, over 600 Dr's signed a letter to Premier Ford to keep them open. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/globaln...pen-covid/amp/)
-The science says schools are safe
-Common sense
-If teachers weren't getting paid or had reduced pay do you think schools would still be closed?
-Teachers Unions often use any leverage they can to gain more power
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01-06-2022 , 12:00 PM
Lets add in Virtual learning sucks and unless you have high speed internet Good Luck

Kids need to be in school. Who is in the way the teacher Unions
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01-06-2022 , 12:43 PM
Quality of life that can't be beat!(In Canada)

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01-06-2022 , 12:52 PM
Wow almost 5,000 people
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01-06-2022 , 12:55 PM
Lmao doesn’t that graph show a net migration out of Alberta over the last five years with just that single big positive data point? Even ignoring that this is an utter wash in a country of 38 million.

Alberta at least has cheap housing compared to so much of bc and Ontario, so I’ll give him they talking point (despite it being utterly unrelated to anything kenney has done). But never leaving BC for that quality of life talking point.
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01-06-2022 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lmao doesn’t that graph show a net migration out of Alberta over the last five years with just that single big positive data point? Even ignoring that this is an utter wash in a country of 38 million.

Alberta at least has cheap housing compared to so much of bc and Ontario, so I’ll give him they talking point (despite it being utterly unrelated to anything kenney has done). But never leaving BC for that quality of life talking point.
CDN's polled and Alberta was not first on the places they choose to live. I know Quebec was really low as well. You think Manitoba be last

Every province has its plusses and minuses. Cheap housing questionable if you look at Edmonton and Calgary

Though I am looking forward to moving to BC ( Kimberley) Part time in June and possibly full time next year.
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01-06-2022 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
CDN's polled and Alberta was not first on the places they choose to live. I know Quebec was really low as well. You think Manitoba be last



Every province has its plusses and minuses. Cheap housing questionable if you look at Edmonton and Calgary



Though I am looking forward to moving to BC ( Kimberley) Part time in June and possibly full time next year.
A quick look at realtor dot ca shows way more affordable housing in both Edmonton and Calgary than my city more than an hour outside Toronto fwiw
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01-06-2022 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
A quick look at realtor dot ca shows way more affordable housing in both Edmonton and Calgary than my city more than an hour outside Toronto fwiw

Curious what you see as affordable? My last 4 builds

2200 Sq ft Skinny $682,500
2400 Sq Ft with Loft $862,000

I have some duplexes for sale right now at $1,049,000 in the trendy area of Windsor park
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...ndsor-parkedmo
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01-06-2022 , 02:18 PM
My anecdote.

When I moved to AB in 2012 people were moving in from all across the Country. A flood of new entrants. You were far more likely to find a transplant in the downtown condo's than a natural albertan. Albertans did not like living 'in the city' (downtown).

With the 2014 crash in oil prices things started to change and by 2015 the flood out of the Province was going the other way. Everything was contracting. Edmonton was only sparred due to massive stimulus spending directed at the Arena District which had all its commitments (luckily) before the oil crash. An entire revamp of the downtown, centred around the Stadium/Casino, with a sleight of new Condo's, Hotels, and other businesses all locked in to complete their development.

That mass construction allowed Edmonton to weather the first few years of the downturn much better than Calgary whose downtown was a ghosttown. Oil and gas workers were targeted and recruited to fill these huge construction jobs. It was only by around 2018 when Edmonton started to really feel the pinch as that mini construction boom ended. And then Edmonton's downtown, like Calgarys started to hollow out.

The one Mall in the downtown lost both its anchor tenants on each end of the mall due to so little foot traffic. Holt Renfrew at one end and The Bay at the other., And each month the stores in between did not renew and shutter. Last I saw that mall was approaching ghost town like status and will have to be repurposed to something else.

the only bright spot was a burgeoning tech centre evolving around AI and the UofA. Every downtown office space was lucky if they were even at 60% capacity. As a tenant we were being offered ever dropping rent to relocate our company to another building. They were all trying to poach from one another to stay viable. They were all converting floors into CoShare Space to attract the Tech Start ups that liked co Share spaces.

it was the NDP who put a tax rebate structure in place that allowed investors to bet on Ab tech companies and cover some of the risk with right offs which really spurred it.

of course the old AB money is all tied up in Oil and Gas and related infrastructure and they have always lived thru times of Boom and Bust and just believed if they could just hunker down and get some gov' help they could squeeze one more (ever one more) Boom cycle out of Oil again and so to get their support Kenney promised to pour subsidy money in to keep them afloat. Much of it he took out of the NDP money that was buoying the small tech community.

it was instantly felt as investors starting reshifting their money back to Oil and gas and away from tech believing the gov't commitment would mean they could ride it out until the next Boom.

We suddenly saw a big exodus of young tech companies to Montreal and Toronto where they had burgeoning AI communities and the support needed.

Horrible for AB. yet another 'big bet' on Big Oil and yet another Boom cycle which I doubt ever comes. And if it does and then downturns again the same arguments will be uses to push back against diverting money to diversify as the belief that if they just hang on another Boom time will come is endless for them. They just have too much sunk money in that sector that is desperate not to be abandoned.
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01-06-2022 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Curious what you see as affordable? My last 4 builds

2200 Sq ft Skinny $682,500
2400 Sq Ft with Loft $862,000

I have some duplexes for sale right now at $1,049,000 in the trendy area of Windsor park
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...ndsor-parkedmo
I'm not necessarily saying it's affordable btw, just that it still looks a lot more affordable than lots of Ontario. My sister bought a 1500 sqft bungalow for 869k a few months ago
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01-06-2022 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
My anecdote.

The one Mall in the downtown lost both its anchor tenants on each end of the mall due to so little foot traffic. Holt Renfrew at one end and The Bay at the other., And each month the stores in between did not renew and shutter. Last I saw that mall was approaching ghost town like status and will have to be repurposed to something else.
Bay still there not sure how it survives. There has literally been no foot traffic for 18 months. I had to walk through it two weeks ago and there were more homeless folks in the mall than shoppers
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01-06-2022 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Wow almost 5,000 people
Now do the rest of the provinces.
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01-06-2022 , 04:51 PM
My Google machine tells me 85k ppl left Ontario for other regions from 2020-21. So what? I don't blame them. Zero chance I would be in Toronto if I didn't have business here. But bragging about 5,000 is sad and funny at the same time
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01-06-2022 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Quality of life that can't be beat!(In Canada)

so why is he always complaining of Alberta being in a bad spot in Canada ?
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01-06-2022 , 06:18 PM
Seems he is genuinely happy that thousands of homeless people have found their way to his province to roam the malls there. Good for him.
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01-06-2022 , 06:49 PM
Not sure if I mentioned this strange fact prior.

I flew back to Ontario to spend xmas with family and to make everyone feel more comfortable I immediately picked a rapid test kit and tested myself and did so again 3 days later.

No big thing but nice to make the family feel a little more at ease.

When I flew back to BC, there was a person in the seat behind me hack coughing constantly and making everyone nervous. So i decided, when I landed, to go to the pharmacy near my place and grab some rapid tests and again test myself immediately and a few days later to cover the flight period.

I was informed by the Pharmacist that BC health does not allow retail sale of Rapid tests in the province. that only authorized test centres are allowed to do it.

I said to the pharmacist 'that seems silly. I walk past that testing centre all the time and see the long line up and hear people coughing away and pass as wide as I can around it. No way I am going in there when I think I am fine and only want to take precautions. I guess they would prefer if I am asymptomatic and don't know that i just quietly spread it'.

the pharmacist was totally agreeing. He said it is completely non sensical but it is the policy.

I came home and ordered the rapid tests directly from a manufacturer but they won't be available to mail to me until Jan 15. But I figure with Omicron it is a good thing to have around.

Is BC Health pulling a Trump? "Slow the testing down please!"

Why would they want to prevent people self testing preventatively??
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01-06-2022 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Not sure if I mentioned this strange fact prior.

I flew back to Ontario to spend xmas with family and to make everyone feel more comfortable I immediately picked a rapid test kit and tested myself and did so again 3 days later.

No big thing but nice to make the family feel a little more at ease.

When I flew back to BC, there was a person in the seat behind me hack coughing constantly and making everyone nervous. So i decided, when I landed, to go to the pharmacy near my place and grab some rapid tests and again test myself immediately and a few days later to cover the flight period.

I was informed by the Pharmacist that BC health does not allow retail sale of Rapid tests in the province. that only authorized test centres are allowed to do it.

I said to the pharmacist 'that seems silly. I walk past that testing centre all the time and see the long line up and hear people coughing away and pass as wide as I can around it. No way I am going in there when I think I am fine and only want to take precautions. I guess they would prefer if I am asymptomatic and don't know that i just quietly spread it'.

the pharmacist was totally agreeing. He said it is completely non sensical but it is the policy.

I came home and ordered the rapid tests directly from a manufacturer but they won't be available to mail to me until Jan 15. But I figure with Omicron it is a good thing to have around.

Is BC Health pulling a Trump? "Slow the testing down please!"

Why would they want to prevent people self testing preventatively??
Same boat suspect I have Covid not allowed a PCR test as not high risk and good luck finding rapid tests.

Bottom line there are none I do not think its BC Health pulling a Trump.

See my earlier post that the 140,000,000 tests the federal government will get to us after Omicron is pretty much gone is really only 28,000 test kits #greatmarketing

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Seems he is genuinely happy that thousands of homeless people have found their way to his province to roam the malls there. Good for him.
I only saw 20 You must hate the homeless
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