Lozen stop trying to distract. You said rape. I'm pushing back at you because you said rape. Talking about rape is pretty serious ****. Did you just casually throw in a rape in the middle of a sentence of you trying to bash Trudeau? Like....do you think Trudeau is somehow responsible for a rape?

Be more responsible.

I'm frustrated with unvaccinated people. But I'm not going to suddenly throw out a basic human right of equal access to healthcare because I'm frustrated. And besides it isn't helpful. We want people with bad covid to go to the hospital where it can be safely dealt with as opposed to trying to rely on friends and family and spreading covid around, which is what would happen if they had to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of a dollars on a hospital stay insead. That proposal just leads to more uncessary deaths as people stay away from hospital and more more covid cases for the rest of us.

Are you denying that someone or multiple individuals were sexually assaulted/raped while in quarantine?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/con...ults-1.5927920

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/man-char...less-1.5323176

https://globalnews.ca/news/7663328/c...investigation/

No. I'm asking why you chose to start politicizing rapes in literally the same sentence as you are dunking on Trudeau? Do you have no shame? Is there nothing beyond the pale that doesn't serve your goal of shitting on Trudeau about everything always forever?

He does seem to not like Trudeau.

I am sorry when as a government you force people to stay in hotels under quarantine you better be damn sure you ensure their safety and feed them . If you can not handle that than maybe rethink your strategy. Its not politicizing rape its pointing out the facts


Lets look at the current Travel advisory. Your advising Canadians that have some of the highest vaccine rates that they can not travel internationally yet no restrictions on International Travelers coming here. Your treating Americans coming here better than CDN's . If your going to put a policy in this short notice how about you reimburse them for cancelled trips

Let me add its nice to see Jason Kenney leading the country in dealing with Covid. He screwed up this summer and apologized and learned from it. Boosters available to all that have had 6 months pass and Rapid tests available Friday no charge

Power and Politics covers it well the hosts questions. Het Liberals if you want to expose the Conservatives that do not have the vaccine reconvene parliament and you'll find out quick

By the time sigma hits we should be quad masked and quad vaccinated. That should do the trick

https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/if-...says-1.5710464

No. Bad idea all around.

You can't just let people die in front of hospitals because they didn't get vaccinated.

I think 7 or maybe even 8 feet social distancing will help as well.

I saw on MSNBC yesterday morning that in the USA since June 1 150,000 folks in the USA that died of Covid had not been vaccinated . As well Omicrom is 70 times as more contagious. I am starting to think at some point we all will catch this .

Monday Eligible for third dose

We will all get it.

Vaccinated, recovered, or dead.

The only way out is to get lucky and down the road run into an even more infectious variant that causes no deaths.

yes i've been saying since the earliest days of Delta that it was a matter of eventuality. 'When' not 'if' we would all get it.

Delta was not more dangerous than the original Covid to the individual but because it spread quicker it was more of a danger to overwhelm the hospitals as it outcompeted the Original.

Omicron is actually a move in the right direction. It spreads and outcompetes Delta while being less harmful over all. But that said the speed of spread can create a crisis in the hospitals anyway. But as more people get vaxxed and we approach some levels of herd immunity with those who do not, Omicron will fade.

But since this virus is now endemic we want Omicron or the next even less deadly variant that can out compete it to become the dominant strain.

I especially like the no dancing rule. This time we will snuff covid out. Anybody thinking they wouldn't impose new restrictions doesn't know this place

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/fu...urge-1.5712069

Were basically at a point were governments are not waiting for science and implementing rules
One province no one at hockey games. Two provinces 50% capacity and the other province wait and see. I really do not see hoe 50% will make much of a difference as contagious as it may be though I am basing my opinion like the government not on science

All the free testing kits here in Alberta were gone in a matter of hours

Monkey see, monkey do.

All the premiers are copying each other at this point.

From the beginning, this has been a balancing act of health concerns vs economic and social concerns (I'm lumping mental health and the public willingness to comply together in this category). As time has gone on, the balance has shifted to the latter. That definitely leads to a lot of inconsistencies when you look at it from a purely health point of view. In BC, they claim to be making these decisions based on what the data is showing them. For example, they say they aren't seeing a lot of spread at hockey games. However, that's pre-Omicron data. I have tickets for tomorrow's hockey game, but I don't think I'll be going.

Is the balance right? I've got no idea, but people seem mostly willing to get the booster here, unlike in the US, so that's a good thing. Possibly the most important thing, but maybe that would still be the case with stricter lockouts, IDK.

Two points,

Firstly, can we PLEASE stop using “herd immunity” as part of our framing about this debate? I think I saw yesterday that omicron was maybe 11 times better at repeat infections than delta, and every day that goes on our immunity from vaccines fades a little.

Secondly, can we PLEASE stop using “science” as deciding public policy. It doesn’t. It can’t. A better framing is to say we are making “evidence based decisions” as to what types of human activities to restrict and what not to. Along Bobo’s lines this is things like looking at the contact tracing to see where things are common, applying common sense, etc. But it is always a balance of economic and public health and mental health etc challenges, so no science will definitively inform you that a 50% capacity is the correct number. This isn’t to say it is completely arbitrary either. We collect evidence and make informed decisions, just as we have to do in just about every other aspect of social policy

Well said, uke.

I have heard 7 times and as much as 70 times. I have also heard it is very mild and our case count will double every 1.5 days. I know I am curious were does the Delta strain go.

Hey I get no fans I do not get 50 % of fans. If its as contagious as we hear I doubt having 8000 folks screaming and many not wearing masks makes much of a difference.

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No were did I say lets go for herd immunity I just said we may be looking at most of us getting this Omicrom variant as unless you have the booster you have little protection from catching it. Though the vaccine assures you it will be mild.

Our biggest indicator will be ICU numbers

Stay Safe and make wise decisions

Bob you sure your one of the lucky 50% that gets to go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/financi...3f5212ba6/amp/

I really like this analysis and we should apply it to Climate Change as well

Correct. The economic policies of how to deal with climate change have a very similar framework. That is what the liberals are doing, for instance.

The poor herd immunity point was not about you lozen, it was from Cuepees post.

No the economic consequences are not being considered at all .

With inflation rampant JT should suspend the Jan 1 st carbon tax increase if he was considering the economic consequences of families struggling to get by

Lol. Maybe let's deal with climate change starting in the 2040s like the conservatives want? Definitely can't take even a tiny baby step this year!