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11-28-2021 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Yup.

This is a big part of the 'Originating Purpose' of gov't. The 'Citizen Public Servant' who entered politics not for fame, glory or riches, as you could get a lot more of that in the Private sector if you were talented back then, and instead a person looking to do good for the country even it might not be popular.

That has all changed now that Politics is a celebrity job that pretty much guarantees any one who wants to follow a certain path (be a corporate stooge) will retire a multimillionaire and go on to make even more millions after their retirement as a lobbyist.

Now, due to that the job attracts people who see this as their best (and for many 'only') way to get rich and powerful and as such they put keeping the job and power above all else.

Tell them it will cost $1/sqft of tax payer money to fix and repair those dykes and levees now or it will cost $10,000 per sqft of taxpayer money later to repair all the devastation and rebuild then, oh and lots of lost lives ... and those in power today almost always choose the latter. Not directly, they just hold their nose, push it down the road, while registering a quiet prayer of 'Please let it hold up for my watch and not break until the next gov't has power'.

That sounds like hyperbole but it is not. Time and time again these Politicians are given reports (Army Corp of Engineers saying 'It is a Matter of Time before the New Orleans dykes and levees break) that make it crystal clear this devastation is coming, the politicians read these reports and the only bet they consider is 'can i get by with it NOT breaking on my watch'. That is it. As long as it happens on someone elses watch, then push it down the road.
See I do not think all folks get into politics for that reason but I am sure many do. Some may not even do it for the money but for the ego or power

Look at the floods in BC Many people built houses in flood planes. They knew they could not get insurance but did it anyways. Imagine being the elected official telling them you built were you should not have.

Lets say you bail them out and they build in the same place they should have to sign never to get another $ for flooding
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11-28-2021 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Please show me were I have ever said inflation is caused by liberal stimulus.


So you say you did not vote for a liar last election?
I didn't claim you personally said this (although Shifty seems more enamored by the idea), I said you voted for the gang that is spreading this lie incessantly. You make a big deal about things you believe Trudeau is lying about, but oddly don't seem to notice when your party is trying to pull a con job on the canadian public for political gain.
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11-29-2021 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I didn't claim you personally said this (although Shifty seems more enamored by the idea), I said you voted for the gang that is spreading this lie incessantly. You make a big deal about things you believe Trudeau is lying about, but oddly don't seem to notice when your party is trying to pull a con job on the canadian public for political gain.
Lets be clear all parties lie for political gain. So saying I voted for a liar when we all know JT has racked up more lies than we can list

Lets move on I dislike Trudeau Uke loves Trudeau. Ill continue to point out what I consider his mistakes Monteroy will Troll

Kudos to JT for closing travel from S.A though the experts say it really will not matter

IN other News The Fifth Estate interesting piece on how governments failed the citizens in the flood zones


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11-29-2021 , 01:31 PM
We know things have got so bad when...



Facing shortages, Canada taps its strategic reserves of maple syrup

Amid shortages, Canada is tapping into its strategic reserves. This time, for maple syrup.

The Quebec Maple Syrup Producers, a leading trade group, said it is releasing roughly 50 million pounds from its strategic maple syrup reserves, almost half of the stockpile, ...

The government-supported organization, which is often called the OPEC of maple syrup, uses its reserves to control syrup prices and supply. As of 2020, Quebec produced 73% of all maple syrup in the world, and its biggest customer by far is the United States, which accounts for around 60% of Canada's export volume.

The strategic reserve was created to keep maple syrup in stock during bad harvest seasons or when demand spikes. That is the case right now following a hot and short spring that led to a lower yield. ...

The reserve has made headlines in the past. Between 2011 and 2012, 3,000 tons of maple syrup, valued at nearly $20 million Canadian dollars, were secretly siphoned from the reserve in a notorious theft known as the Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist.
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11-29-2021 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
We know things have got so bad when...



Facing shortages, Canada taps its strategic reserves of maple syrup

Amid shortages, Canada is tapping into its strategic reserves. This time, for maple syrup.

The Quebec Maple Syrup Producers, a leading trade group, said it is releasing roughly 50 million pounds from its strategic maple syrup reserves, almost half of the stockpile, ...

The government-supported organization, which is often called the OPEC of maple syrup, uses its reserves to control syrup prices and supply. As of 2020, Quebec produced 73% of all maple syrup in the world, and its biggest customer by far is the United States, which accounts for around 60% of Canada's export volume.

The strategic reserve was created to keep maple syrup in stock during bad harvest seasons or when demand spikes. That is the case right now following a hot and short spring that led to a lower yield. ...

The reserve has made headlines in the past. Between 2011 and 2012, 3,000 tons of maple syrup, valued at nearly $20 million Canadian dollars, were secretly siphoned from the reserve in a notorious theft known as the Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist.
I thought organized crime controlled some of the Maple Syrup industry in Quebec

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ywnj...p-black-market
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11-29-2021 , 04:39 PM
That is a pretty perfect real or beaverton article, especially so coincidentally timed with biden taping the strategic oil reserves
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11-29-2021 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen

......Kudos to JT for closing travel from S.A though the experts say it really will not matter.......
We've seen this show before; this does nothing. It's just a political play targeting rubes much like kissing babies on tour or posing with a construction hat when breaking ground
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11-30-2021 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
We've seen this show before; this does nothing. It's just a political play targeting rubes much like kissing babies on tour or posing with a construction hat when breaking ground
That is what the experts say so I may be 100 % wrong on this one.

Bottom line when we are giving ourselves third doses and not taking care of poor countries and leaders refusing to remove the patent protection you end up with more variants .

I do believe our leader is stalled on that as well with the USA & Europe also not bending


Amazing when you look at our deaths compared to the USA us 30,000 and USA over 800,000 factoring in 10 x the population have to happy with the numbers.


Last edited by lozen; 11-30-2021 at 10:36 AM.
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11-30-2021 , 07:06 PM
LOL Canada. Testing all arrivals except the u.s. Bc we all know the u.s. populace is totally responsible. This is based on science and science says don't test u.s. arrivals

I say we just start sacrificing goats when the next variant hits bc science

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...n-more-to-do-1
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11-30-2021 , 07:55 PM
I suppose when the US will announce a first time case of the new variant , canada will start the test again for the Americans coming over here ?

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11-30-2021 , 08:00 PM
Already one confirmed case in Alberta.
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11-30-2021 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I suppose when the US will announce a first time case of the new variant , canada will start the test again for the Americans coming over here ?
Makes sense bc a) it's always good to play from behind and b) the variant has been detected in every single country except the u.s.

Just remember this is all abt the science
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11-30-2021 , 08:16 PM
Well yes to me it is .
There is no cases yet , shrug .

What I know for the few time i traveled in the US, in Canada we have it easy when we cross borders compare when you are on US soil .
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11-30-2021 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Before I respond, are you asking why I believe that we have gotten much better, or why we have gotten much better?
Why not both?
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11-30-2021 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Yup.

That sounds like hyperbole but it is not. Time and time again these Politicians are given reports (Army Corp of Engineers saying 'It is a Matter of Time before the New Orleans dykes and levees break) that make it crystal clear this devastation is coming, the politicians read these reports and the only bet they consider is 'can i get by with it NOT breaking on my watch'. That is it. As long as it happens on someone elses watch, then push it down the road.
But we should assume these politicians are making the correct policies when it comes to energy/climate change? Governments declare that we are in a "climate emergency" and do what? Do they prepare for natural disasters?fix dykes? Or just book flights to the next climate conference?
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11-30-2021 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
WOW.


Crazy how political this is. Yes, there are a few lefty alternative anti-vaxxer types, but let's just be clear precisely where the majority of nut-job anti-vaxxers are in the country. You voted in good company lozen!
I'd be curious of how many parents also vaccinated for the flu? Or how many parents that got their kids the COVID vaccine got them the annual flu shot years prior.
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11-30-2021 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
The cons are endlessly trying to connect the inflation happening around the world to the liberals political choice to have a rhobust economic stimulus during the pandemic. They even have a stupid #justinflation hashtag I’m sure shifty will share the tweets soon enough.

So just a friendly reminder that this narrative is just BS: https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politi...rnor-1.5683699

Of course lozen will vote for the lying liars over and over and over again.

Man I'm glad that's settled and we don't have to worry about inflation any longer. It's still transitory though right?
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12-01-2021 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Why not both?
Because I assume you're looking to get to a bigger point here, and you could save us some time by just getting to it. So you can either do that, or or if you're actually looking to carry on a sincere conversation, you could stop selecting parts of my posts you want to respond to, and others you're going to ignore.
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12-01-2021 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
LOL Canada. Testing all arrivals except the u.s. Bc we all know the u.s. populace is totally responsible. This is based on science and science says don't test u.s. arrivals

I say we just start sacrificing goats when the next variant hits bc science

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...n-more-to-do-1

There are so many exemptions still in place from other countries as well . Lets just hope the new strain is covered by the vaccines

The sad part is all the surgeries that are being cancelled and the effects of that
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12-02-2021 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Kudos to JT for closing travel from S.A though the experts say it really will not matter
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Originally Posted by lozen
That is what the experts say so I may be 100 % wrong on this one.
Gosh, given this choice I was so sure Lozen would be right. Imagine my surprise when I read this:

https://www.wired.com/story/omicron-variant-facts/

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WHILE SOME RESEARCHERS are figuring out what they need to know next, others are hoping to unwind the unhelpful things that have already happened. If sub-Saharan Africa wasn’t actually the home of the variant—or even if it was, but the variant has long escaped—there’s no scientific rationale for interdictions against travel. The bans “make no sense and send the wrong message. They should be reversed immediately,” says Madhukar Pai, a physician, epidemiologist, and associate director of McGill University’s International TB Centre. “Vaccine mandates and pre/post-departure rapid testing can be used to protect travelers and borders.”

Meanwhile, travel interdictions are preventing research from moving forward. For one thing, they’re keeping people from getting isolated samples of the Omicron variant. “The speed at which we get laboratory data is going to depend on how quickly we get access to virus isolates,” Rasmussen says. “The travel bans have made it more challenging to get materials to and from southern Africa, so they are actively hindering research efforts.”
So...it's better to wait for science rather than taking panicked knee-jerk actions that make the lozens of the world feel better? Shocking!

This seems familiar, taking me back to a time over a year and a half ago when I kept pushing back against all the overblown "We should have closed our borders immediately!" rhetoric, as if that was some kind of magic bullet.

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“Vaccine mandates and pre/post-departure rapid testing can be used to protect travelers and borders.”
This, this, this. A million ****ing times, this.
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12-02-2021 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Gosh, given this choice I was so sure Lozen would be right. Imagine my surprise when I read this:

https://www.wired.com/story/omicron-variant-facts/


So...it's better to wait for science rather than taking panicked knee-jerk actions that make the lozens of the world feel better? Shocking!

This seems familiar, taking me back to a time over a year and a half ago when I kept pushing back against all the overblown "We should have closed our borders immediately!" rhetoric, as if that was some kind of magic bullet.


This, this, this. A million ****ing times, this.
Yet our leaders pick and choose the science to follow

You are right on everything you said. Though you do realize there are so many loopholes that allow unvaccinated folks to travel into Canada.


Kudos to all parties that passed the ban on conversion therapy.
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12-02-2021 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
...

So...it's better to wait for science rather than taking panicked knee-jerk actions that make the lozens of the world feel better? Shocking!

This seems familiar, taking me back to a time over a year and a half ago when I kept pushing back against all the overblown "We should have closed our borders immediately!" rhetoric, as if that was some kind of magic bullet.

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As omicron was discovered I had two simultaneous thoughts.

- it will make no difference if the US and others close their borders again and its silly and self/other destructive to do so
- the US and others have no choice but to quickly close their borders again


The media would absolutely fillet them if they did not close their borders and Omicron ended up being a deadly/devistating varient even if Omicron was already here. Endless interviews asking every Biden official 'why they did not act' and 'is it worse now and spreading quicker and in more locations because they did not act'.

The EV choice was to close the border, meaningless or not, just to take away that garbage question they would have been hit with constantly.

I wish that were not the case as I totally agree with you but I thnk the politics of this are pretty clear, sadly, in today's age.
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12-02-2021 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
As omicron was discovered I had two simultaneous thoughts.

- it will make no difference if the US and others close their borders again and its silly and self/other destructive to do so
- the US and others have no choice but to quickly close their borders again


The media would absolutely fillet them if they did not close their borders and Omicron ended up being a deadly/devistating varient even if Omicron was already here. Endless interviews asking every Biden official 'why they did not act' and 'is it worse now and spreading quicker and in more locations because they did not act'.

The EV choice was to close the border, meaningless or not, just to take away that garbage question they would have been hit with constantly.

I wish that were not the case as I totally agree with you but I thnk the politics of this are pretty clear, sadly, in today's age.
How about this Canada is closing its border to all whom are not vaccinated period. No exceptions. You could even include a PCR test for countries you deem to be at a higher risk ie countries than have a vaccination rate lower than 60%
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12-02-2021 , 12:31 PM
You are in areas of politics here that are harder to be so black and white on.

The science does not seem to suggest such harsh measures now that we have such a high percent of the populace vaccinated. I think the last I looked we have less than 20 covid deaths a day nationwide and the hospitalization rate is very low and both are almost exlcusively among the non vaxxed.

With this Omicron varient looking to be no more of a risk, I think the argument should be to open wide and let it rip thru the populace and let it cull the remaining unvaxxed to get them to a point of herd immunity.

My only hesitation on that is that with a seeming very big therepeudic so close (Pfizer anti-viral pill) it makes sense to hold off a bit until that is available. Although I doubt the anti vaxxers will rush to take it either.

Covid early on was all about Cases and we had to control cases as it was a clear straight line from Cases to hospitallzations and Deaths. That is not the case anymore for the vaxx'd. And as such I think society should be moving more to normal life while watching the emerging varients for data that suggests otherwise.
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12-02-2021 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
You are in areas of politics here that are harder to be so black and white on.

The science does not seem to suggest such harsh measures now that we have such a high percent of the populace vaccinated. I think the last I looked we have less than 20 covid deaths a day nationwide and the hospitalization rate is very low and both are almost exlcusively among the non vaxxed.

With this Omicron varient looking to be no more of a risk, I think the argument should be to open wide and let it rip thru the populace and let it cull the remaining unvaxxed to get them to a point of herd immunity.

My only hesitation on that is that with a seeming very big therepeudic so close (Pfizer anti-viral pill) it makes sense to hold off a bit until that is available. Although I doubt the anti vaxxers will rush to take it either.

Covid early on was all about Cases and we had to control cases as it was a clear straight line from Cases to hospitallzations and Deaths. That is not the case anymore for the vaxx'd. And as such I think society should be moving more to normal life while watching the emerging varients for data that suggests otherwise.
I agree with you. Its all about the Hospital beds. I saw a stat on the news and dont quote me on it but we are behind on surgeries by like 900,000.
You hear about all the folks that had serious surgeries postponed and it is shocking.
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