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10-28-2021 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen

Kenney would have been better served putting separation on the ballot instead of equalization?
why ?
seem Canada is very profitable for Alberta ?
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10-28-2021 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
why ?
seem Canada is very profitable for Alberta ?
It sends a better message to Trudeau

Canada is Better with Alberta and Alberta is better off with Canada Sadly the spoiled Child Quebec is the issue as is BC and a leader that really could not care less about Alberta or Sask

Reality is Canada never balances a budget without Alberta & Sask thriving
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10-31-2021 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Hey you've been going deep in that wikipedia page since yesterday!
No, I've been aware of him for a few years. He was in the media a lot with bill C-10.

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Originally Posted by uke_master
Well, I don't necessarily think he'll be the "one" to save the environment, but certainly that 20 years ago he did a pretty mild environmental activism doesn't discredit him. I think there is the potential that having a committed environmentalist in a leadership role will actually give some of the action that lozen pretends he really wants.
McKenna wasn't a committed environmentalist? You jumped to the defense of Guilbeault pretty quickly. What makes him better than McKenna?
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10-31-2021 , 09:30 PM
This is more good news. I was just thinking I wish my grocery bills were higher.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/cost...ease-1.5645640
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10-31-2021 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86


McKenna wasn't a committed environmentalist? You jumped to the defense of Guilbeault pretty quickly. What makes him better than McKenna?
McKenna was great and did a solid job. Im not claiming he will be better or worse. What I’m saying is the fact that he was an environmental activist is not problematic, rather unlike the silly spin from right wing folks
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10-31-2021 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
It sends a better message to Trudeau

Canada is Better with Alberta and Alberta is better off with Canada Sadly the spoiled Child Quebec is the issue as is BC and a leader that really could not care less about Alberta or Sask

Reality is Canada never balances a budget without Alberta & Sask thriving
Lol how is Quebec spoiled ?

Meanwhile in Alberta ….

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...udes-1.1128562

“ Despite Alberta's booming economy, the disparity of wealth in the province is growing faster than almost anywhere else in the country, suggests a report released Thursday”

87 per cent of earnings in the province goes to the top half of families.
The top 10 per cent of Alberta families get 28 per cent of after-tax income, while the bottom 10 per cent of families get only 1.7 per cent;
The top one per cent of Alberta earners have an average income of $675,200 compared to an average of $353,100 for the top one per cent nationally.
The median income in Alberta in 2009 was $68,100, while the median income among Alberta CEOs was just under $2.5 million.
Albertans consistently work longer hours, with less time off and holidays, than almost anyone else in the developed world.”

“ The author of the report attributes the disparity to Alberta’s low minimum wage, inadequate social assistance, and the province's boom-bust cycles.

Diana Gibson also points to lower education levels in the province and tax policies that reinforce wealth concentration rather than redistribution.”


Its clear a lot of workers get exploited by the right wing economic vision , that again and again ……results shows the concentration of wealth effect it causes .

But hey keep blaming Quebec , Canada , bc or whoever else instead of focusing on :
How the hell it’s going so bad in Alberta while we have the top income in the country !

Think ffs ….


But hey if you think taking from the poorest to give more for those that have the most is better , thinking you won’t get right back at the same place 5 years later because of bad economic policies , be my guest …

95% of the 15 poorest states in the US are republicans , you think it’s a coincidence with those empirical evidences that pure libertarian /conservatism economic only works for a few and not for the majority ?

I ask you this sincerely.
If alberta can’t even take care of it’s own citizens , why the rest of Canada should in their place ?
Just to enrich the top 10% that are already the richest in Canada ?
Wtf ….

I’m all for sharing and contributing but man , stop complaining about others and fix your backyard first ….
You have all the tools and the money to do so compare to anyone in Canada …,

Norway did great with around the same population as Alberta .

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10-31-2021 , 11:01 PM
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I think there is the potential that having a committed environmentalist in a leadership role will actually give some of the action that lozen pretends he really wants.
That's not claiming Guilbeault will be better than McKenna?
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10-31-2021 , 11:58 PM
Lol at your silly gotcha attempt. McKenna, who hasn't been minister of the environment since 2019, did a pretty solid job and indeed one of the Liberal parties strengths is on climate change and a bunch of that is due to her. The party obviously can, and should, do a lot more, building on that base. I said "there is potential" for doing more with Guilbeault. Time will tell.
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11-01-2021 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol at your silly gotcha attempt. McKenna, who hasn't been minister of the environment since 2019, did a pretty solid job and indeed one of the Liberal parties strengths is on climate change and a bunch of that is due to her.
Why do you think she did a pretty solid job? Emissions have gone up in Canada while she was in charge, not like other G7 nations.

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11-01-2021 , 12:28 PM
Lol. Do right wing people actually think these feckless attempts at comebacks are actually like stringing barbs or something?
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11-01-2021 , 03:56 PM
More excellent global leadership on the climate front from Trudeau and Guilbeault:

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Canada will impose a hard cap on emissions from the oil and gas sector, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday at the COP26 summit in Glasgow.

Calling the promise "a major commitment" that should inspire other resource-rich countries to dramatically curb their own emissions, Trudeau said Canada is prepared to limit the growth of one of the country's largest industries to help the world hold the global average temperature increase to 1.5 degrees Celsius.

"We'll cap oil and gas sector emissions today and ensure they decrease tomorrow at a pace and scale needed to reach net-zero by 2050," Trudeau said during his two-minute speech in front of other world leaders gathered in Scotland.

"That's no small task for a major oil and gas producing country. It's a big step that's absolutely necessary."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...-gas-1.6232639
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11-01-2021 , 11:47 PM
Perfect now the rest of the world can ramp up dirty production while we fall behind economically and import.
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11-02-2021 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
More excellent global leadership on the climate front from Trudeau and Guilbeault:



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...-gas-1.6232639

Even all the critics at the conference call him a climate phony. Amazing no caps on amount of sewage being dumped in the Ocean, No caps on emissions per province, No caps on the amount of coal shipped to the country with the biggest carbon footprint. Real things that could be implemented immediately

All these 2030 goals and 2050 goals.

No consultation with the provinces it will effect most

Yet what province leads in renewables?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN2BF0H8

Also how do i post a tweet?

https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1455255002553978885

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11-02-2021 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol. Do right wing people actually think these feckless attempts at comebacks are actually like stringing barbs or something?

Comebacks? I'm attempting to get you to define your position on why Guilbeault is a great pick for environment minister but you just keep dancing around it. It's ok, you can just say you think he's extreme enough to get arrested over his climate change beliefs he's extreme enough that he might attempt to implement the green utopia you desire.
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11-02-2021 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GooseHinson
Perfect now the rest of the world can ramp up dirty production while we fall behind economically and import.
It's political theatre. Provincial and Federal governments along with Industry will go back and forth on the caps etc and nothing will change.
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11-02-2021 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
More excellent global leadership on the climate front from Trudeau and Guilbeault:



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...-gas-1.6232639
In the middle of a global energy crises due to under investment Trudeau stands up and makes a speech like that, the world needs more Canadian oil not less. If Trudeau wanted to make any kind of impact he would also say he'll stop importing from any country that does not follow Canada's strict environmental regulations.
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11-02-2021 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Amazing no caps on amount of sewage being dumped in the Ocean, No caps on emissions per province, No caps on the amount of coal shipped to the country with the biggest carbon footprint. Real things that could be implemented immediately
This is utterly bizarre. You use your standard two whatabutisms you have said hundreds of times, but the bolded is a new one. You want....a cap on provincial emissions? Really? And you think this can be done immediately? You realize the identical per capita emissions cap would be far far worse for Alberta applied provincially as opposed to nationally, right? Regardless, I'm very glad you are on board with the idea of emissions caps and must be very pleased with Trudeau's announcement, even if you are disappointed it isn't happening on a faster timescale and provincial jurisdictions.

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Alberta is near the bottom. You didn't read the article carefully enough: Alberta is leading the growth of renewables for electricity. So it is growing, but is far, far behind the national average. The vast majority of BC's electricity for instance is renewable. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy Alberta is doing this. They should do a lot more.
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11-02-2021 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
In the middle of a global energy crises due to under investment Trudeau stands up and makes a speech like that, the world needs more Canadian oil not less. .
You might have been confused. He was speaking at a conference about the climate crisis, not an energy crisis. That's why he is talking about initiatives to use less oil. I know it is confusing sometimes.
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11-02-2021 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You might have been confused. He was speaking at a conference about the climate crisis, not an energy crisis. That's why he is talking about initiatives to use less oil. I know it is confusing sometimes.
A conference were the one of biggest countries guilty of the highest emissions did not attend . Not sure if India was there.

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This is utterly bizarre. You use your standard two whatabutisms you have said hundreds of times, but the bolded is a new one. You want....a cap on provincial emissions? Really? And you think this can be done immediately? You realize the identical per capita emissions cap would be far far worse for Alberta applied provincially as opposed to nationally, right? Regardless, I'm very glad you are on board with the idea of emissions caps and must be very pleased with Trudeau's announcement, even if you are disappointed it isn't happening on a faster timescale and provincial jurisdictions.
I was talking about coal and sewage. The reason he will not cap these is power he wants to remain in power . BC and Quebec vote for him. Its the same reason he will not call bill 21 what it is racist

The man is a climate phony and the critics at this conference know it and deep down you do as well

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11-02-2021 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I was talking about coal and sewage.
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Originally Posted by lozen
No caps on emissions per province
So the only "emissions" you want in your cap is one type of fossil fuel, coal, and not another, from oil? What utter nonsense. Trudeau's approach here of treating carbon emissions equally (applying the tax at a per tonne rate regardless of source) is so much better than this cherry picking nonsense.

Especially because your obsession - and I think with the frequency you mention these two things obsession is more than fair - is largely just irrelevant. Consider this chart of green house gas emissions by sector in Canada. Coal production is one component among many in the smallest "other" section, and of course much of that coal production is metalurgical coal (i.e. to make steel) which presumably your right wing buddies don't think we should stop doing. I suppose under a bizarre perversion of the English language you could think that "sewage" is an "emission" also the effect on the biggest BC jursidiction of....uh....Tofino not having a sewage treatment is again a just trivial effect on global warming.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not fan of thermal coal, but your obsession with saying WHATBOUTCOALANDSEWAGE any time anyone tries to do any form of advancement against climate change is just ****ing stupid.
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11-02-2021 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
So the only "emissions" you want in your cap is one type of fossil fuel, coal, and not another, from oil? What utter nonsense. Trudeau's approach here of treating carbon emissions equally (applying the tax at a per tonne rate regardless of source) is so much better than this cherry picking nonsense.

Especially because your obsession - and I think with the frequency you mention these two things obsession is more than fair - is largely just irrelevant. Consider this chart of green house gas emissions by sector in Canada. Coal production is one component among many in the smallest "other" section, and of course much of that coal production is metalurgical coal (i.e. to make steel) which presumably your right wing buddies don't think we should stop doing. I suppose under a bizarre perversion of the English language you could think that "sewage" is an "emission" also the effect on the biggest BC jursidiction of....uh....Tofino not having a sewage treatment is again a just trivial effect on global warming.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not fan of thermal coal, but your obsession with saying WHATBOUTCOALANDSEWAGE any time anyone tries to do any form of advancement against climate change is just ****ing stupid.
Your saying none of that coal goes to power plants?
No what I what I was saying is that JT could do something immediately on Coal from the USA and dumping raw sewage into the Ocean. Any idiot could realize that the only reason we ship this coal from the USA is because states like California, Oregon and Washington State refuse to as they realize how dirty this coal is. Also any idiot could realize that polluting our seas is just as bad and maybe worse than air

If you equate BC and Quebec dumping millions of gallons of raw sewage as trivial . Your right in the whole scheme of things it might be But you could say that about Alberta's energy emissions as well

Its to bad we do not have a conservative media to press JT on the climate issue . We know CBC is not going to do it.

Also my obsession is with doing the easiest solutions first that bring you little to know benefit. I am sure we can find those 500 port workers green jobs building solar panels
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11-02-2021 , 02:47 PM
My goodness you are one slippery little eel, aren't you? You said this:
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Originally Posted by lozen
No caps on emissions per province
I get it that you LOVE your two talking points. You tell them to me every couple posts. You haven't engaged with my previous commentary on them, so you don't need to repeat them again....ever. The part I am quoting is the new thing. Let's talk about that, because I don't think anyone believes when you say "emissions per province" you are refering to small BC communities like tofino not having sewage treatment plants.

So do you think Canada should have a per province cap on carbon emissions? Or are you just talking out of both sides of your mouth?
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11-02-2021 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
A conference were the one of biggest countries guilty of the highest emissions did not attend . Not sure if India was there.



I was talking about coal and sewage. The reason he will not cap these is power he wants to remain in power . BC and Quebec vote for him. Its the same reason he will not call bill 21 what it is racist

The man is a climate phony and the critics at this conference know it and deep down you do as well
Bill 21 is racist ?
You know white Muslim exist right ?

Religion is a choice , colour skin isn’t ….
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11-02-2021 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
My goodness you are one slippery little eel, aren't you? You said this:

I get it that you LOVE your two talking points. You tell them to me every couple posts. You haven't engaged with my previous commentary on them, so you don't need to repeat them again....ever. The part I am quoting is the new thing. Let's talk about that, because I don't think anyone believes when you say "emissions per province" you are refering to small BC communities like tofino not having sewage treatment plants.

So do you think Canada should have a per province cap on carbon emissions? Or are you just talking out of both sides of your mouth?
Your only talking point is carbon tax works

I would be fine if we restricted each provinces emissions on carbon or set targets for each province but we all know that is never going to happen

Of course you never answered the question about were that coal goes . Lets be honest you hate Alberta and Albertans
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11-02-2021 , 04:10 PM
btw lozen....

If Quebec is racist on bill 21 lol...
The entire Europe zone as well ?

https://www.business-standard.com/ar...1501341_1.html

EU top court made clear that the ban does not constitute discrimination if it is systematically applied to all beliefs, even if some religious precepts require believers to wear a certain type of dress, Euro News reported.


"One criterion to justify the ban may, for instance, be the "legitimate expectations of clients and users" for neutrality, especially in the field of education, where parents may wish their children are supervised by people whose religious beliefs are not visible."



"European employers can ban people from wearing any visible sign of their political, religious beliefs, including headscarves in order to present a neutral image European Union's top court ruled"


At least in Quebec its only in government sector where neutrality is needed to respect the perception of the application of the laws from the state, not being apply with bias from its agents...

So Europe is what ?
10 times more racist than Quebec i suppose since it goes way further than Bill 21.....?

The point is, they understand that a religion belief as no more weight than a political belief (or w.e other beliefs) because its all about ...beliefs....
The State laws do not bend vs beliefs....

But one thing i know for sure, religions are discriminatory vs women, gays, etc. as a fact !
but lets hide that under the rug .....

If you like to be the defender of discriminatory ideologies like religion, KKK, and all stuff like that, you have the right to do so.

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