What I said was that IF you believed the thing you said, THEN you must not know anything about indigenous issues. A you have now acknowledged that your statement was wrong that conditional statement no loge applies.

You must not have read my post. I'll quote what I said again.

Hilarious that after 100 years of there not being clean drinking water, the cons are attacking Trudeau for not fixing it in six.

Oh I would agree 100% unless you promised you would solve it in 6 years.

Hey there was a point when I thought hey if you want to live 1000 Kms up north maybe you do not get clean drinking water and waste treatment services till you explore were these communities are.

The problem lies in the overall federal contracting system as well. Lets say you have a community that is waiting on the federal government. They put it out to tender and 6 companies bid on it. The government gives it to the lowest bidder. This company goes in and than tries for multiple change orders and more money and does a crappy job. Well the next project comes up and guess who bids the lowest again that same contractor.
On projects of this scale the best way to award them is to toss out the low and high bid take the other 4 total them and divide by four. The contractor that comes closest to that number you award the job
As well companies that perform poorly you do not allow them to bid again

As well those communities have very little say in the tenders and jobs. They should be involved

Sounds like you have it all figured out. Seems strange though that given your extensive knowledge on how federal contracting works, you have such a harsh stance now on the project's results. So clarify for me on what the issue is; is it that the promise was made in the first place, or that it hasn't been successful yet?

I'd also point out that all problems are solved with money, so I'd be curious as to how much more in taxes you'd be okay in paying so that the FN communities can get the water that was promised?

I also have no idea where this piping hot take on federal contracting comes from. Did Trudeau change how the government procures contracts? Is the way you describe it even the way they do it? On its face it sounds really, really stupid. It seems like you should look at their operational capacity and track record and not just try to pick the one closest to the average. Shouldn't we be trying to minimize costs and if a company has the ability to do it for less than the average we should try to do that?

My problem is that you promised something and never delivered and now have no idea on when you will deliver.

I agree just throwing more and money at the situation may not always solve the issue.

There is a cost to not delivering also Billions

https://globalnews.ca/news/8074983/f...first-nations/

No, your problem is that the guy has a last name you don't care for.

Yeah imagine I do not like a politician that breaks a large majority of his promises and has no concern for the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan

Go Figure

Will see if he speaks up on bill 96 in Quebec

didn't he buy you ****ers the pipeline you wanted for christmas? Your bar for thinking trudeau doesn't care about something seems to tautological.

Yeah Mr Climate Change bought a pipeline some would call him a climate phony for that. Horrible decision

Plus he passed many bills that screw over Alberta's oil industry

Yet we keep making transfer payments to heat Quebecers pools

Name them. Name the specific bills and the specific details in those bills you think are bad. If that is your evidence for him allegedly not caring for the province he bought a pipeline to support, you are going to have to be VERY convincing. Because Alberta's oil industry hardly seems screwed right now.

Please stop that bs .
It ain’t true ….

That is not how it works .
Been demonstrated plenty of times .

It is not because Kenney says so that it is …
Still same garbage none sense being spew by guys like Kenney or Bernier on a lot of issues like this one …

That program goes per capita , so Quebec being the 2nd most populated will obv receive more but in the amount each citizen received , Quebec is far from being the one receiving the most, on the contrary …

Penalizing a province because it is more populated is nonsense .
Every Canadian deserve to be treated equally ffs …

Every CDN deserves to be treated equally Bill 91 & 96 ??

Tell me Quebec does not subsidize its power?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/pet...ollars-at-work

Reality is Albertans will vote on this in two weeks and it will mean nothing. We will be stuck subsidizing a province that doesn't want our dirty oil

Bill C48 the oil tanker ban yet had no issue increasing tanker traffic for US coal

Bill C69 makes new pipelines almost impossible

Also the Tech Mine went through all the environmental reviews and he refused to make a decision on it

Yes Alberta will be doing better with oil prices but not with a mismanaged premier

Quebec not wanting the oil pipeline but they will take all the trains and tankers burning fossil fuels to bring it in.

Meanwhile an oil train derailed and blew up half a city. Pipeline bad though.

Quebec is a special place.

what does it mean bill 91 and 96 ?
name a province that gives as much services in french, that Quebec gives in english.....

we have those laws because french wasnt not even permit to be spoken on the work place in the 1950s for your information....

fwiw in 2020...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ste...e-bc-1.5608067

"The Supreme Court of Canada has ordered the government of British Columbia to pay the province's sole French-language school board $6 million in damages for underfunding its school bus transportation system for a decade, and an additional $1.1 million for operations.

In a 7-2 decision released Friday, the nation's highest court said the provincial government's funding approach to the French-language school system violated section S. 23 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which guarantees education in one of Canada's two official languages.

spare me the cliche of quebec is bad toward the english when in actually they are not at all....while still this happens in 2020...

Quebec pay by itself everything , not a cent from federal budget....
that is the difference but then , harper gave a free loan of billions to NFD to compete Quebec in electricity that became the infamous Muskrat Falls projects being a huge money pit of over 13 billions, paid by us all...

oil been subsidize plenty btw as well.

so i dont know what you are trying to arrive at.

First off I can only imagine if Donald Trump or Jason Kenney tried to implement bill 91 the racism cries would be everywhere

As for bill 96 when you start to ban requiring english for a job you are discriminating against those that do not speak French
Here in Alberta you can go into any6 government office and speak French only.

Were a bilingual country and here in Alberta some jobs require you to speak French

Come no, it is vastly easier to navigate society as an anglophone in quebec than as a francophone in alberta. Sure there are a few governmnet jobs that require being bilingual but this isn't remotely the same. Practically speaking, English is required for most jobs in Alberta.

Not taking sides on the particulars here but just want to comment that all of the 'Environmental Arguments' are largely BS. This is a battle of Revenue share as always.

BC. Quebec, others, don't AB to make any more money from Oil and Gas without them first extracting their maximum cut. If BC and Quebec and Native Groups could extract a Churchill Falls like concession re AB Oil were they got the majority of the Revenue they would be pushing it like nobodies business. Despite the fact all of Canada benefits as AB benefits (transfer payments) they would cut off their nose to spite their face if it meant AB got the lions share.

Does anyone think that is not true?

Oh it is True both Quebec's and BC premiers are hypocrites

BC & Quebec have no issue polluting the Oceans dumping millions of gallons of raw sewage
BC has no problems shipping US coal to China and increasing that tanker traffic
Quebec had no issues approving massive projects with no federal environmental impact studies which will dramatically increase their carbon emissions

Just google all the existing and proposed Oil and Gas lines in BC that are being pushed by the BC gov't and taken right thru the 'so called' environmentally sensitive areas and Ports and the hypocrisy screams out.

It cannot only be 'environmentally sensitive' if it is 'your' oil and gas and not sensitive if it is ours.

But the honest argument of 'this is about WHO gets the bulk of the cash' is not useful for various gov'ts as it does not inspire the voters who are used as dupes in this. All too often whipped up by competing interests.

I mean, how many environmental activists against AB oil know that much of the push against it is paid for and pushed by Big US Oil interests. Just as much of the anti Shale stuff was pushed by Saudi's. They just don't want the competition driving their prices down.

And I am not saying there are not real issues behind AB oil or Shale, but rather the arguments being pushed are not honest ones. The environmentalists are all too often unwitting dupes to poor arguments.

For instance the best way to lower emissions and achieve those targets in AB is to allow Pipelines to replace the trucking of oil and to keep the revenue and profits in Canada where they can be re-invested instead of now flowing mostly to big US interests.

Activists are duped in to believing somehow they can stop AB oil and that will never happen. If the Canadian gov't has to subsidize every drop, it is still coming up. As long as the world has need for it, it will come up. And if you slow Canada filling it, then shale and other sources will do so. So you are not helping the environment (quite the opposite) and you are just enriching others. You can only slow it marginally by making them truck it all. But truck it all they will.

But like I said, 99% of this goes away and approvals fly swift if AB interests would submit to a Churchill Falls type deal where they give the lions share of revenue to the other Provinces. Suddenly they would all be signing from the same song sheet and the few true, ethical activists would have no real voice.

Obv. +1 .

Many English speaking could live their entire life without any problem in Quebec without speaking a word in french .
They have hospital services , schools , judicial services , etc .

It’s been like that for decades and still is…

No where for French is possible , beside 1 or 2 exception …

Comparing the precarity of French to English in North America is absurd .

Why would they need a bill 91 in Alberta ?
To protect English from what ?

It’s clear you have misconception on as to why those kind of French law been appearing in Quebec since the 1960 ..

Here a bit history and tell me if that was normal for over 100 years when you have a population of French around 90% yet French was not accepted …..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_French

« After Canadian Confederation in 1867, Quebec started to become industrialized and thus experienced increased contact between French and English speakers. Quebec business, especially with the rest of Canada and with the United States, was conducted in English. Also, communications to and within the Canadian federal government were conducted almost exclusively in English. This period included a sharp rise in the number of immigrants from the United Kingdom who spoke a variety of languages including English, Irish, and Scottish Gaelic. This was particularly noticeable in Montreal, which resembled a majority anglophone city in terms of its commercial life, but was predominantly francophone. As a result, Quebec French began to borrow from both Canadian and American English to fill accidental gaps in the lexical fields of government, law, manufacturing, business and trade. »

« Following World War II, Quebec began to receive large waves of non-French- and non-English-speaking immigrants (allophones) who would acquire French or English, but most commonly the latter. »

« In Ontario, the first French-language public secondary schools were built in the 1960s, but not without confrontations. West Nipissing, Penetanguishene and Windsor each had their own school crisis.

I mean it’s funny to think how the ROC complain about Quebec while doing far worst when the role are reverse . Just look at the last quote .
1960 while Canada suppose to have French as a one of the 2 official language and have massive problem for French in Ontario .
And that is just for a high school in French .

Fwiw , why Canadian are so bother by what Quebec is doing when people speaking in English in Quebec have every rights or liberty to do w.e they want in English …

The comparison are bluntly absurd and stupid .
If Quebec are racist imagine the rest of the ROC doing far worst ….

Bill 91 is the no burka, turbin bill at government jobs ??