Well it was nice to see Justin took a vacation on the first Truth & Reconciliation day .
Pretty Much tells you everything

I await the defense of the indefensible.

The guy thought/thinks he can run a G7 country based on nothing but his last name. Not sure why people are still surprised by this type of behavior.

A good Editorial on Justin's vacation

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...ation-day.html





Lets face it Justin has never cared about indigenous issues from the beginning. Im sure he will appeal the latest ruling and fight children in court. You think he has some smart advisors that would say how stupid are you skipping the first Truth & Reconciliation day. I would be shocked if he called anyone.
He had two invitations for Kamloops but was flying over it instead and flat out lied online about his day

I am sensing the two of you do not like Trudeau.

AS well as a large majority of Indigenous folks

As much as lozen's talking points on this are silly, I do think this is a fairly large mistake. Part of Reconciliation is actions and we've talked about some of those ITT, success and failures, but another part is symbolism. Part of it is being in the same room at the same time saying the same things in moments of import. I think it is a big step forward to have a national day for truth and reconcilliation, and support that the BC government made this an actual work holiday. Trudeau should be symbolically leading as the representative of the government on this day. Just like every PM does on remembrance day.

For instance at my university we had events throughout the week but the president of the university specifically was presiding over various events on campus on Sept 30th about truth and reconcilliation. It's not just a day off. It is a day to spend thinking and reflecting and sharing about truth and reconcilliation. Trudeau missed the mark in a pretty big way here.

My talking points are

• Justin as leader failed to attend any Truth & Reconciliation events which is disgraceful
• Justin has failed the indigenous people over and over

Name us a prime minister that did not ?

Really cant but he was the one that made specific promises and said he would be different. Yet he broke all the promises and continues to fight in the courts against Indigenous children

OK.

Fighting against indigenous children in courts is such a fantastic lozen* line. Zero context. Zero details. Zero attempt to intellectually grapple with the the actual case or larger policies. Just go right for the attack line.

*Of course lozen didn't come up with it, he is just regurgitating.

Skill testing question: who do you think made more progress on the suite of indigenous issues: Harper or Trudeau?

I thought Trudeau said he would be different than Harper. Your typical go to line Oh Harper was worse

My answer would be neither . Though Harper never promised anything

Trudeau hasn't done anything for Indigenous Issues All he has done is made promises


Let me add I always though JT was a good actor at being a politician but I never imagined him and his team could be that stupid to think that going on vacation and skipping the first Truth & Reconciliation day would be OK
Damn he could have stopped in Kamloops on the way with his family. How big must your ego be

Ok. You only demonstrate that you have absolutely zero knowledge on the substance of any of the issues. If you can't think of a single thing that has been done, then you simply aren't paying attention to this file. Which is exactly what I'm suggesting, that you treat it as nothing more than an issue to have context-less, detail-less, attacks against trudeau. It is fine to be critical of trudeau on this file - I am for instance - but when you simply use indigenous issues as a political wedge rhetorical device to attack your political enemies while having zero clue what the government is or is not doing on that file, it seems like you probably should have spent Sept 30th doing a bit of learning and a little less focusing on your hatred of trudeau.

Have zero knowledge OK your typical talking down to people as your smarter than us all

Lets see wasn't in 2015 or 2017 Justin promised to impose all the recommendations from
the Truth & Reconciliation report? Hoe many has he done
Did he not promise clean drinking water by a certain date ? Another failure on his part and some of the ones he has done are already in trouble

Heck if I did spend Sept 30 th as you say doing nothing than I guess I did the same thing Justin Did

You know nothing about myself and Indigenous education or issues. Though one thing I can say is when I make a promise I keep it

Canada could use the Yukon as an example of How to solve the problems we face with Indigenous people and it starts with settling all these land claims and lawsuits

Will see if JT appeals to the supreme court the current lawsuit. Will also see how he wiggles his way out of this crisis

Do you think the answer is zero? Because the real answer is that he has done a LOT of things from the TRC rcommendations (btw creating Sept 30th was one of them!! Thanks JT!!!). Again it is fine to criticize things he hasn't or things he has done poorly. But to pretend like he "hasn't done anything" is to live in a fantasy world of your own hatred for Trudeau.

I do not hate Trudeau. Funny how you use the Truth & recon day as the one thing he has done. Yet its the one thing he could not spend 60 minutes of his day to attend

Yeah Yeah I am sure we will hear " I am not going to apologize for getting big waves"


As for how many the number is 15 fully

Hey you keep believing in your fake hero and I will keep calling him out as a Climate phony, fake feminist and last week what we already knew he cares about as much about indigenous issues as Harper

Lets be honest my opinion means squat ill trust the leaders of the Indigenous people and what they say.

So do you think the answer is zero or not?

It was a simple question. We didn’t need a repeat tirade of your usual detail-less criticisms of Trudeau.

I answered your question

He has fully implemented 15 of the recommendations

Ah so you did. Indeed, and many further recommendations have substantial progress. So saying he “hasn’t done anything” is a really stupid thing to say, right?

No when you promise to do things and put dates on it and than do not achieve than you change your promise will work on it. Folks do not have much faith in you

There are many items that they have done nothing on .

Like I said me judging Trudeau on this portfolio really does not say much. Though when you have the AFN National Chief Roseann Archibald saying it that carries weight .

You get how these two statements are contradictory, right?

I certainly don't think he has done enough on TRC calls to action. But words matter. You can't say he hasn't done anything when obviously he has.

None of that addresses the question about it being a stupid thing to say he has done nothing while also believing he has fully implemented 15 of the recommendations.

This is an example of why it's hard to take you seriously on Trudeau, especially when you say things like "I do not hate Trudeau." I mean, I don't know if you actually have personal hatred for him, but you're definitely quite obsessed with how terrible he is, to the point that you're unable to clearly articulate much more than "Trudeau terrible" talking points.

I could see your point but some of you seem to give him credit for just trying to get things done.
When you make a promise in 2015 to be different and one of the items is Clean Drinking water by a said certain date and you do not achieve that due to your failure and mismanagement and your excuse is its hard. Than in 2021 your platform is try and get clean drinking water. I am sorry I have little respect for the job you have done and not going to give you credit for a 60 % completion rate.

The same goes for the Truth & Reconciliation . Trudeau made commitments in 2015 and we are to celebrate achieving 15 of 94 fully

Yes I was wrong when my statement said he did nothing it should have been He has done very little and seems to not be concerned with Indigenous Issues. That is not just my opinion but many prominent Indigenous members in Canada. I guess Uke knows more than them as well

I have little respect for comments like this . Like I know nothing about Indigenous issues. Uke has this mentality that I am better than you it shows in many of his posts. As for comments like this I say Fxxk you