I think the interview was good too. Much like the debate, I think O'Toole is coming off the best (completely separate from my analysis of his policies). He is clearly going to make a LOT of people like lozen, who swing around in the moderate camp somwhere like him.

I do think a lot of his answers were basically weak. I HATED the bit on vaccines where he was talking about getting to 90% vaccination rates without mandates and she kept pressing him on any mechanism to actually accomplish that and he came up completely empty. Hopes and dreams, it seems. Weak. And his answers on climate change were weak. And his explanation (or lack there of) on gun control flip flop was weak and kinda cringe. But for all that policy weakness, he is very able to say the right platitude about the situation and it covers up the policy weakness very well. You have to be quite in tune with the actual differences between things like the climate change plans to recognize the wool being pulled over your eyes.

I'm a secularist. I think religion is a net negative on society, and that our institutions should be broadly speaking secular. I don't support Bill 21, it isn't the mechanism for secularism that makes sense to me. However, I also somewhat respect a bit of cultural relativism here (which is not something I'm generally prone to do) and accept that Quebec has a bit of a different cultural take on secularism than I do. So I don't normally speak too much about Bill 21 tbh. Maybe that is a cop out, I don't know.

I agree with pretty much everything here but that is what politicians do. Its how you come across and he does come across well.


Sadly many people are scared to speak up about Quebec. If not one public dollar goes to anything catholic I may support bill 21. Though I doubt someone loses their job for having a tattoo of a cross or wearing a chain with a cross

I also think if Jason Kenney proposed this type of law there would be outrage

I seem to remember another politician who came off well and said the right platitudes on issues you cared about even if a policy analysis at the time revealed significant weaknesses in their position, even if everything they said in the platform got implemented (which never happens). Today you call that person a Climate Fraud.

ive never voted before, which party is against vaccine passports?

I know nothing about politics but ill give them a +1

PPC is the party for all the antivaxxer nutjobs in the room, you'll fit right in!

thanks bud


go PPC!

I could list all the promises he broke and thus voted Saturday conservative

Will he keep his promises I do not know but I do know the other guy has broken so many

It will be an interesting election. Will the PPC take away conservative votes ? Will the NDP and Cons split votes? How badly will Justin do? If he is not the minority leader will he resign? Or forced out?

Let me add As confident as I was voting for Trudeau in the 2015 election I feel the same way about O'Toole/ Though I have no questions about his character

After skimming through the conservative platform (a dizzying attempt to jump from his leadership appeals to the social conservative right before diving hard left to outflank trudeau in the general), I can promise you are going to be going HARD on the "broken promises" thing come a year from now. Or maybe not, maybe you will excuse them all way. But broken they nevertheless will be, and almost certainly more egregiously than the Liberals.

I hope you're right, that's if conservatives win.

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Quebec funds to my knowledge every education , even private ones (not 100% in funding but a lot , yeah even English one lol ….).

https://ecolespriveesquebec.ca/en/private-school/faq/
“ In Quebec, the majority of independent schools receive subsidies from the government for each student. These grants account for 60% of what is paid to the independent school per regular student, for educational services only. Subsidized independent schools operate according to a model that is similar to early childhood centres (CPE in Quebec).”

B
They created a law because the “raisonnable accommodation” was becoming too much and started to create more and problems .

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That is the point , just because he can’t , it shows he can’t put the value of the state in front of his beliefs .
As a represent of the law and being the one applying it , it clearly break the appearance of neutrality …

I would never accept being judge by a person like that .

Let’s say I’m a Palestinian being judge by a Orthodox Jews …
Good luck with that …

Btw look at how it goes with certain suprem court judge in the US and tell me non of them are bias with their religion……(hint -> abortion).
Imagine nominating a judge that can’t even put aside his religious symbol .
You telling me they would even be less bias ?
Please …
Being ready to lose his job for a religious symbol implies a lot of things .

But since you seem in favour of the bill, I won’t hassle you with the rest of questions I asked ….

Fwiw I think the misunderstanding of the ROC here is the unknown history of religion damages it did for a very long time in Quebec and how religion got expelled from a lot of government 50 years ago already .


In Quebec it’s just a long process of decades coming to term with the separation religion and states that started a long time ago .
That is probably why it seem perfectly normal to us and does not create false narrative of racism or intolerance .
I mean hell , that bill aiming towards our own religion as well…..
How that can be discriminatory?
No one escapes it .
It put everyone on the same footing , no exception .
And that is a law should work anyway .
Everyone equal in front of the law .

Let’s not forget it only applies to certain jobs in the government in authority of power to apply states law and governments policies or programs .

And everyone receiving government services (even in court ) , can wear w.e they want .

Again your at work for the state , being the state in a sense , not being there promoting or practicing religion ….

No party could ever break as many promises as Justin has in 6 years.

It isn't really true though. Take this nationalpost article of promises from 2015 through to the 2019 election. (Asking for 2019 -> 2021 is sort of fair, but also the pandemic, so 2015->2019 is a pretty good sample). About 50% met, 40% making progress, 10% broken over 300 something individual campaign promises. That's not some historical outlier by any shot. Particularly when the biggest things like the massive and brave carbon tax bill are among the things actually executed. If you really want the whole period, I like this graphical measure over all promises over all time efrom the two elections (and you can see the big spike in broke promises, particularly just about everything to do with fiscal stuff, from the 2019 platform due to the pandemic). And you can scroll through them to see all the hundreds and hundreds of things they did or partially did or didn't do.

Not sure why Erin Otoole wouldn't want to be interviewed by one of Canadians most successful authors with a huge following.

Same reason Justin Trudeau would not. Similar to being on Joe Rogan. He would challenge politicians on their BS answers.
Take calling an election in the midst of a pandemic. You could show Justin the clips were he said he wouldn't call an election in a pandemic. Than you could challenge the BS answer he is giving now.
As well you could push O'toole why he flip flopped on guns

I asked you to provide the exact quote last time you said this bit about calling an election in a pandemic. I provided a video last time of Singh six months askin Trudeau to commit to that statement and he wouldn't! Obviously now we are at 85% vaccinated, the country is opened up, an an election is far safer than most things people do daily in their lives, and of course you can vote by mail. Heck we've had multiple provincial elections already. There are plenty of reasons to not think we needed an election, but you are going to need to provide exact quotes if you are going to claim that with any seriousness.

Bc Peterson is exactly the kind of right wing clown otoole wants to avoid being lumped in with

Ya if I was in the CPC warroom I'm definitely advising he doesn't take the Peterson interview. He is trying to swing to the left to capture as many moderates as possible, the last thing you want to do is go for the optics of the guy who rose to fame for refusing to use the pronouns of trans people.

No he didn't refuse he just said it shouldn't be legislated

It was on the news again Last Night I do believe it was July and He Said I will not call an election in a pandemic. Were still in a pandemic

Can you post a link to him saying that please? I've googled it. I've found things like this: https://torontosun.com/news/national...uring-pandemic

Why is a parliamentary committee asking trudeau to promise not to call an election if he promised this?

But all this is just faux outrage anyways. It isn't like most conservative are advocating people don't do activities as risky as voting which will undoubtably be far safer than things canadians are regularly back to doing.

So many promises it leaves out
Clean Drinking water
Election reform
Transparency
Stand up for women
lower internet and cell phone bills
get all the afghans out
less corruption
veterans
Indigenous relations
truth & reconciliation
compensation for victims of adverse reactions to covid shots


the list could go on and on

I guess will find out next week sometime

Uke I am curious as a a professor do all your students know your political stances?

How on earth would my students know my political stances? I'm a math professor. There might be a few places here or there where my behaviour (such as giving a land acknowledgement on the first day of class) might signal somewhere on a political map, but any student would be mostly guessing.

As an example, the first homework in my advanced modelling class is about covid vaccinations. Students construct a mathematical model showing the curves for various different vaccination rates. That might make you guess I'm supportive of vaccines, but I don't say so, and the exercise is sort of apolitical in that they can construct whatever model they choose and it is just about the math and and it is just a good topical first topic to dive into for students.

No, those are on the list. Well, I checked the first two, both of which say they are broken These trackers keep track of every single platform promise (some of yours are just vague thoughts or something not in a platform). The point is, the vast majority of election promises are either fully or partially kept. Pre-covid, I'd rank this as slightly above expectations among democracies.

I think that is fantastic. I heard a quote on a news show talking about how the best teachers are the ones were their students have no clue on their political statue.