If lozen's false equivalency between gay conversion therapy and circumcision is not the product of him parroting a ridiculous take he saw somewhere, and is instead his own totally novel idea, that only makes it worse.

I can't find any proof of this: can you please link comments made by multiple standing MPs from both parties that support female genital mutilation?

Yeah the folks that do this only help Trudeaus campaign. He had his best moment responding to the folks that forced him to cancel the event. I am OK with the young man saying things like 6years of broken promises how can we trust you now? Even the folks that swear at him while holding kids Its just bad

Some very angry folks out there and if its over vaccines their just nuts . So much hate for JT will see how it effects him on election day

I never said female genital mutilation only just genital mutilation which includes circumcision

Explain to me how it makes it worse. So you are telling me the fact that some folks think they can drive the gay out of people is not as crazy as cutting the tip off a penis of a baby . Both are religious beliefs

https://www.reuters.com/business/can...rce=reddit.com


To bad we didn't have a PM that thought about monetary policy

Wow, you REALLY need this explained to you? Um.....ok. OF COURSE they are not anywhere remotely "as crazy"! The harm to a person from gay conversion therapy and from circumcision is many, many orders of magnitude different. For the absolutely overwhelming supermajority of the third of the men on the planet that are circumcised, everything is medicla fine. I personally didn't circumcise my son, as my understanding of the literature that the UTI/STI risk vs hemmorage risks are slightly on the don't circumcise camp as a medical issue, but either way it is extremely marginal risk in comparison to the harm from religious conversion therapy. It's fine if you want to be one of those anti-circumcision bros who dramaticizes it as some horrible human rights violation or whatever, but at least properly contextualize it and don't make a false equivalence to gay conversion therapy. That's sick.

By the way, while it is a religious practice for some (although not all religious practices are bad, of course!) in the US and originally in Canada although it has declined a lot it was largely public health beliefs that took it to being the predominant choice, not religious ones.

Well for starters you actually can "cut the tip off" but cannot drive the gay away. So that right there is a glaring difference!

Also both being religious beliefs doesn't make them equally batshit crazy. For example a Ferrari and Hyundai are both cars but that doesn't make them equal

This.

I don't think you can get much more atheist than me, and my wife is agnostic at most, but it was also a close health-related decision (not to circumcise) for us with our son.

are you implying that Trudeau has any bearing on monetary policy or conflicting government debts with Bank of Canada monetary policy ?

Btw , all around the world the economy getting weaker, why would that be specifically Trudeau fault ?

Oh man, I don't think that makes it any better an argument.... but still, please link the MPs that support male circumcision. It's ridiculous, but so is the false equivalency you're attempting to make.

Looks like Trudeau had done great things for the Alberta economy, thanks for sharing Shifty!!!

If they haven't started hammering "debt crisis" as the outstanding issue, then the PC party is dropping the ball. Instead of trying to emulate the Liberal and NDP planks, the PCs should be positioning themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility. Not because it can win them this election, but rather that they can point to their position in the upcoming years and say 'We told you so.'

I love how Shifty is trying to simultaneously quote GDP numbers of praise Kenney and trash Trudeau. Most normal recognize that politicians ability to influence GDP numbers are pretty ****ing limited (and lol at pierre trying to pin it on deficit spending, uh that works the opposite way around buddy, learn some econ 101). People who try to connect this all to telling narratives about their politics friends and enemies are mostly just empty partisan hacks.

Let’s not forget before COVID-19 , the biggest deficits amount were made under PC not liberals ……

Harper get a pass for 2008 GFC but Justin do not for covid ?

Its pretty scary when the conservative plan has 10 more years of deficits and Trudeaus plan is never balance the budget.

Global National did a great interview with Calgary's outgoing mayor and he nails a bunch of great points .

One really good point is there are lots of CDN's like Uke who believe let Albertans freeze in the cold but the reality is Canada can never balance a budget without a vibrant Alberta economy

https://globalnews.ca/video/8156606/...1-years-later/

Shifty on thinking Kenney is doing great is as much BS as Uke saying Trudeau is

Didnt Canada fair the best under that Financial collapse because of out strong banking regulations?

Big difference in the size of deficits and 2021 number will be just as scary

Wrong

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/economic...porter~2270187

Shifty is right about that We are performing the worst in the G7 on the economy and climate change

I wonder if either shifty or lozen actually watched the link. Notice how the analysts are talking about thing like supply chain issues in auto manufacturing and when BoC should taper quantitative easing etc and not anything supporting their ideological political worldviews?

The play books seems to be "if news is negative, blame Trudeau" with no further mental effort required.

Of course I watched it. Do any of your points make montrealcorps statement less wrong? Did other G7 countries not face similar issues?

Almost the same as telling young people there's a climate emergency and you need to vote liberal to save ya?

Oh that is SO much worse for you. You claim to have "watched" a video and didn't notice at all how the analysts said nothing remotely similar to your previous quoted tweet from Pierre about apparently the deficit spending weighing down the economy?

On climate change, as I've done numerous times in some detail ITT, it is important to talk about the actual details of the plans. Both the cons and liberals claim to have a plan to put a price on carbon to significantly reduce CO2 emissions. A priori either could be better. Sadly, one of those two parties is a sick and pathetic joke of a plan. Not that this should concern you, as you seem more enamored by the PPC conspiratarding.

I was talking presently , not between April to June in Q2 which I admit was very surprising bad.

All around the world for a couple weeks now , all bonds yields are falling regardless if it’s China , US , Germany , the big economies .

Will see Q3 reports if the economies are going great or not .
For what I read and watch , the economy around the world aren’t doing good .
Delta variant probably is not helping either .