The validity of climate change isn't the issue - it is the fact that by having "climate change is something the Liberals created to push an agenda" in your platform you ensure you aren't a credible party come election time (or debate time for that matter).

Doesn't say the liberals created the climate change issue.

Just lol. Bernier was a sad loser who instead of taking the loss on his chin whined and sniveled and made a fringe party that unsurprisingly embraces utter conspiracy theories, weirdly cannibalizing the very party he once wanted to run. Shocking that the "trump is better than trudeau" crowd ITT is pining over his loss and trying to play the "but but but let me quote the utter conspiracy theory where technically it isn't quite as bad as your guys' hyperbole made it out to be" card.

The policy debate about global warming is not grounded on science anymore. It has been hijacked by proponents of big government who are using crude propaganda techniques to impose their views. They publicly ridicule and harass anyone who expresses doubt. They make exaggerated claims to scare people. They even manipulate school children, getting them to pressure their parents and to demonstrate in the streets.

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There, I highlighted the part I'm speaking about. Look what I wrote before: it's not that climate change is a Liberal creation - it's that it's something being used to push an agenda - which is exactly what the PPE (and their supporters) believe.

You could have the best economic ideas for this country, but if your party doesn't lend support to certain social issues, you are doing nothing other than playing spoiler come election time.

I agree with you on the sore loser thing. He should have accepted the defeat and wait in the wings.

No one is saying Trump is better than Trudeau They are both evils on both ends of the spectrum. Snake Oil salesman that do not deliver. They pander to two different groups .

Still wouldn't call the PPC policy's "extreme" like I would the Communist Party, Nationalist Party or Marxist Party.

But here are some quotes from the left wing parties policy pages on climate change.

Green Party: https://www.greenparty.ca/en/our-vis...climate-crisis

NDP: https://www.ndp.ca/climate-action

Liberal Party: https://liberal.ca/our-plan/fighting...nging-climate/

That's not using fear mongering to push an agenda?

Another disastrous day for the Libs

1)Monsouf is looking forward to working with our Taliban "brothers". JT defends use of the language. Imagine how many people in their party vetted that written speech.
2)PSAC ending daily covid updates due to the election. JT evasive as to why provinces were somehow able to continue with covid updates in their election cycle.
3)Communist like tax on "excess profits" of banks and insurance co's.
4)Multi billion $ ship building contract awarded to China defended vigorously by JT

Yeah the Taliban Brother one struck me as WTF. Though JT is going to hand over thousands of folks to the Taliban to be killed.

Justin's reply to Afghanistan Well Covid updates in the middle of the fourth wave not good when you promised not to hold an election in the middle of a pandemic

ill tell you a secret.
When you reach the "golden ratio" of sigma 5 confidence in science for climate changes created by humans, its a freakn consensus by any reasonable scientist....

Only nut cases and conspiracy theorist believes the contrary anymore.
If you want to believe in a about 1 % scientist that contradict the golden ratio, be my guess .
But its funny that people not believing in climate changes cause by human think 1 percent scientist as huge value,
but when it comes to covid 19 and having 1% of dying from it, that 1 % value becomes meaningless....

wtf his wrong with these people, 1% is 1 percent, its value should not change based on feelings or beliefs !

That is not how science works !
freakn clueless...its math ffs.

if 40 years of data from economic showing trickle down economy do not work, what more you want ?
You just cant read economic charts....


The money being won at the upper chain of the food chains are not redistributed to wages or down the chain, they are redirected to guess what -> stock market bubbles...Or hiding in offshore account.

And after 40 years and multiple bail out ( thx tax payers btw...) there is not 1 giant bubble anymore, now it s 3 giant bubbles in the market !
It never happen before to have such gigantic bubbles and more than 1 at the same time. Never...
that is not trickle down economy working , that is mis allocation of capital because their is too much liquidity in the hands of a few.
Crazy right, too much liquidity in the system!

solution ? Bernier wants more tax cut ???
to do what ? create jobs.....?
jobs arent missing, workers are missing because no one wants to works for peanuts to enrich the top 1% that will just inflate even more bubbles into the stock markets to get bail out when they crash!

Corporations do not invest in the real economy anymore because it easier to make more profits in the stock market than to actually creates something and sell it.
Worst is, they do buyback shares with the excess of liquidity they have at all time high prices !!!!!
lol....
As if buying stocks at all time high should be a great investing strategy ( 2008 US or 1989 Japan is a clear example of whats coming).
they telling you is more important to push the stock market than to give wages and create something to hard working people..
Wtf is wrong with you....

The system is totally upside down but hey , gives more money to the rich with tax cuts....so the bottom 70% will pay even more to compensate.
The stock market is suppose to be a representation of the economy and obv, it is not the bottom 70% of people that are rich to be able pushing the stock markets at those level....
the entire world was shutdown and guess what ? the stcok market made all time high and you think it is normal ?
JFC...

They are ****ing climate change deniers! How anyone could be this moronic in 2021 is beyond me.


It isn't fear mongering when the consequences are real. It is a completely correct call to action to deal with an actual crisis.

Oh **** off.

Climate change is a reality the question is what do we do?

Since all our parties are a joke im writing in Jim Lahey. That drunk bastard would handle our country better than those clowns anyway.

- 1970 The new ice age!

- 1980 Acid rain!

- 1990 The ozone layer is gone!

- 2000 Global warming is melting the glaciers!

- 2010 Climate Change! In 10 years, we're all gonna die!

- 2020 CO2 emissions

- 2021 Wildfires and heatwaves <-- you are here

The same bullshit we've heard for the last 50 years, repackaged.

Is this new climate change denier the same guy that popped in a little while back as an anti-vax conspiracy theorist, or was that someone else? These guys all look the same.

The only point he does make is valid. How many times do we here folks say we only got 10 years left over the last 30 years

What Fossil Fuel would we say is the worst for our environment ? Coal, Oil, Natural Gas,

Certainly not denying it and the science with it.
(not aiming at you).
that would be a start....

it is freakn raining in greenland now you dope....(did last week) and yeah, check pictures, glaciers are melting
But hey even physical reality do not matter...

ozone layer right ?
1987 Montreal Protocol did work
im so glad in the 1980 people were less dumb.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/Ozone

"Scientists have already seen the first definitive proof of ozone recovery, observing a 20 percent decrease in ozone depletion during the winter months from 2005 to 2016. In 2019, abnormal weather patterns in the upper atmosphere over Antarctica dramatically limited ozone depletion, leading to the smallest hole since 1982. Models predict that the Antarctic ozone layer will mostly recover by 2040.

Just stop talking on thing you know nothing about.
like in the covid thread...
Today people arent ashame anymore to be prove they are stupid by talking...
Do me a favor do not ever take any vaccine, natural evolution will take care of the rest.

what are you talking?
all the models were aiming at around 2100

the efforts to be able to reverse the problems we do not have much time but the terrible consequences were always to be very bad around the end of the century...

and... I might be mistaken by a decade or so... I have heard that by 2050, some of the damage will be irreversible.

I always find it strange when climate change deniers look at acid rain and ozone layer as if those two are not massive successes of the environmental movement that we identified core problems and undertook significant regulations to make the problems much smaller. Like yes! Great job! We should do more of that, thanks for the reminder!

The people who ignored all alarms about climate change and did nothing over the last two decades, and then use that as a talking point against doing action now when the problem is worse and more entrenched is just stupid.

well since human didnt really do nothing about it and the situation being a bit worst, possible the time frame have been shorten since early 2000-2005.
i am not following anymore every climate changes details anymore because what is the point.
we have problems and they arent being address at...
But no one ever predict the end of the world in 2030 (like probably an idiot did for the ice age in 1970 ? but that probably came from a twitter source like werner love to produce and take 1 scientist and make it mainstrean, like obv he does with covid vaccine issues because he found 1 guy somewhere on youtube proclaiming himself scientist...)
maybe an idiot did but certainly not the scientific consensus.

+1

Al Gore did a movie that made many predictions that never materialized. Than you got AOC telling us the world will end in 10 years.


I love good ole Justin when asked if he shut down updates from Public Health on Covid sidestepped the question

Also Justin Promised 20,000 refugees from Afghanistan than said no wait 21,000. How many to date 2700

AOC is not a scientist .
What did gore documentary predict that did not happen ?
I remember I saw this doc and I don’t really recall what incredible false claims he made ?
It was more of a description of what was presently happening at that time with predictions far in the future .

Did he predict it will end up raining in greenland ?
Certainly not in 2021 .
Maybe he did some big claim that did not happens but raining in Greenland it pretty much a big phenomenon that probably would equal the ones that did not happened..