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08-24-2021 , 09:34 AM
Well, not everyone has sources like you and Lozen. They will have to make due with what they got.
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08-24-2021 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Are you planning on crediting Trudeau for action item after action item after action item he has done thus far o the opioid crisis? https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana.../overview.html

Or about the excellent ideas in Budget 2021?

Like sure, dealing with the opioid crisis is something all politicians should do, and all of them are putting the money where their mouths are on this one. It isn't a distinguishing feature. If you want to go into the minutia of one plan vs another plan sure, but I think all you have done is found out that O'Toole said some stuff about opioids are are hoping for a slam dunk. Sorry, you don't get one.
You do realize those are just proposed like many things Justin does

Jagmit nailed it Justin's good at promising things just terrible on actually delivering on those promises
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08-24-2021 , 11:07 AM
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08-24-2021 , 11:47 AM
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08-24-2021 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
You do realize those are just proposed like many things Justin does
Oh, you just didn't read it then. The first section discusses newer Budget 2021 promises, but the rest of the white paper contained a lot of information about the details of things that are done. Do you not remember the news cycle in 2018 like at all on opioids?

This is such a great example of your rampant partisanship. Huge amount of credit that O'Toole releases a plan of some form that addresses an issue every single party is addressing. Zero credit or even acknowledgment any progress has occurred from Trudeau, zero attempt to compare the O'Toole plan to the Liberal plan going forward. Zero details anywhere in any of your posts. Just partisanship. Is this going to be the way it is for you on every single issue until the election?
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08-24-2021 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
So Maxine does not get to participate in any debates yet the Bloc does baffles me.
Reality is if your not running candidates in any other region than Quebec you should not participate in a federal debate.
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08-24-2021 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So Maxine does not get to participate in any debates yet the Bloc does baffles me.
Reality is if your not running candidates in any other region than Quebec you should not participate in a federal debate.
I always love how you use "reality" to mean "my personal highly unorthodox opinion". Of course a party who gets a bunch of seats should be allowed in debates. Of course many parties with no seats and trivial polling support shouldn't be. There is a slight debate over exactly what the level of polling support should be and whether Maxime can get over that number, but thinking the bloc shouldn't be in is nuts.
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08-24-2021 , 01:34 PM
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08-24-2021 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I always love how you use "reality" to mean "my personal highly unorthodox opinion". Of course a party who gets a bunch of seats should be allowed in debates. Of course many parties with no seats and trivial polling support shouldn't be. There is a slight debate over exactly what the level of polling support should be and whether Maxime can get over that number, but thinking the bloc shouldn't be in is nuts.
Of course its my opinion only just as it is yours that Trudeau cares about the climate and is actually doing something about it.

This whole fricking board is about opinions
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08-24-2021 , 01:55 PM
oh calm down I know, I'm just chuckling at how you call your silly opinions "reality"
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08-24-2021 , 01:58 PM
So quite a lot to unpack in the dueling housing policies. It is a thorny issue because the more supports you create, the easier it is to get a house, and so prices keep going up. So there is a lot of spinning tires. Like sure you can put a two year moratorium on foreign buyers, which puts a bit of a crunch in two years time!

This was a smaller detail, but I'd be very happy to do away with blind bidding in housing, so many horror stories here.

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08-24-2021 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
So quite a lot to unpack in the dueling housing policies. It is a thorny issue because the more supports you create, the easier it is to get a house, and so prices keep going up. So there is a lot of spinning tires. Like sure you can put a two year moratorium on foreign buyers, which puts a bit of a crunch in two years time!

This was a smaller detail, but I'd be very happy to do away with blind bidding in housing, so many horror stories here.
As much as parties can talk about affordable housing this really is not a federal issue unless you are prepared to subsidize purchases.
As a builder I am building 4 Infills this year and the costs are what is driving up prices. Lumber up 400% and pretty much everything else up 10% and supply issues everywhere. Two of my builds ill be lucky to break even.

I think governments may be better off focusing on affordable rent or rental subsidies for lower incomes. Its not a right to own a home anymore
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08-24-2021 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
believing polls from political parties ?
lol...

ill bet you w.e you want, bernier with is PPC will get crush by bloc quebecois.
Not beat, crush.

Bernier is a huge clown in Quebec and been seen many time saying ignorant stupid thing.

i feel almost ashamed saying this but i think i would take trump before Bernier.

People complain about trudeau being weak and having no intellectual substance but when you come to realize Bernier almost became the PC chief by a super thin margin and you see how Jason Kenney is doing in Alberta....
the PC was incredibly bad and weak (to me trudeau is doing a better job than kenney) to permit someone like trudeau to win.

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08-24-2021 , 04:13 PM
Pfft: if the Conservatives had Bernier as their candidate, they'd be in better shape than they are now.
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08-24-2021 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BrookTrout
Pfft: if the Conservatives had Bernier as their candidate, they'd be in better shape than they are now.
come on....
Bernier is a certified idiot.
the number of mistakes he did in PC, it would of been far worst today being the leader and so, in a positions to make even more mistakes.
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08-24-2021 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
believing polls from political parties ?
lol...

ill bet you w.e you want, bernier with is PPC will get crush by bloc quebecois.
Not beat, crush.

Bernier is a huge clown in Quebec and been seen many time saying ignorant stupid thing.

i feel almost ashamed saying this but i think i would take trump before Bernier.

People complain about trudeau being weak and having no intellectual substance but when you come to realize Bernier almost became the PC chief by a super thin margin and you see how Jason Kenney is doing in Alberta....
the PC was incredibly bad and weak (to me trudeau is doing a better job than kenney) to permit someone like trudeau to win.
Who even does polls anymore with call display.

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(to me trudeau is doing a better job than kenney)
Their both Clowns
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08-24-2021 , 06:23 PM
I can’t disagree there .
But seeing how much damages Kenney could do based on Alberta , Justin would make less .

But I won’t start a debate on who’s got more clowns level in their bones.
Regardless the level of qualified politicians for the last 2 decades might be one the weakest from my memories by far .
For good reason
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08-25-2021 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
come on....
Bernier is a certified idiot.
the number of mistakes he did in PC, it would of been far worst today being the leader and so, in a positions to make even more mistakes.
You're not the only one who's made this claim - that he's gaffe-prone and an embarrassment: but what exactly did he do? I've been googling and nothing jumps out at me - help me out here.
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08-25-2021 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BrookTrout
You're not the only one who's made this claim - that he's gaffe-prone and an embarrassment: but what exactly did he do? I've been googling and nothing jumps out at me - help me out here.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/maxime...ister-1.298239

Atleast he accepted responsibility, unlike most politicians would do. He's by far the most experienced candidate runnings both politically and in the private sector.
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08-25-2021 , 01:07 AM
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You're not the only one who's made this claim - that he's gaffe-prone and an embarrassment: but what exactly did he do? I've been googling and nothing jumps out at me - help me out here.
His got a lot of conspiracy views and trickle down economy concept being a success ( with everything that comes with it …) in his mind .
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08-25-2021 , 01:15 AM
Yeah, he does espouse alot of **** on the campaign trail now - but I assumed (apologies for not posting it before) that we all agreed that if Bernier was the candidate for the PC party, he wouldn't see the need to pander to fringe views on vaccination.

As for trickle-down economy, even the most conservative of Canadian parties would balk at the pure government largess towards corporations that happens south of the border: when a Canadian politician says we need a trickle down economy, I assume he means stop overtaxing businesses and stop going after the top earners with punitive taxes.
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08-25-2021 , 04:34 AM
Pretty much , but he go in those at extremes without any shroud of doubts regardless of evidences for decades ….
And that is a no go to me for having someone making big decisions for everyone on false beliefs since it is backed By no shred of scientific evidence while it’s opposite view is , regardless if it’s health or economic sectors.

Can’t have a guy like that running a country .
It’s no better than to have a priest following the bible for futur political orientations ….
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08-25-2021 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BrookTrout
As for trickle-down economy, even the most conservative of Canadian parties would balk at the pure government largess towards corporations that happens south of the border: when a Canadian politician says we need a trickle down economy, I assume he means stop overtaxing businesses and stop going after the top earners with punitive taxes.
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Cut personal income taxes, corporate taxes, and the personal capital gains tax after the deficit has been eliminated, over the course of several budgets, as the fiscal room is found to allow it.
His platform is not nearly as extreme as it's made out to be. I highly doubt people like Montrealcorp have even looked at it, but according to him it goes against decades of science.

https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform

Curious what would be the most extreme policy in the platform.
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08-25-2021 , 10:09 AM
Based on their sanitized version of their views that they present on their website, I can see why people would view the PPE as extreme and their platform as a collection of racist/populist dog whistles. Just one (non xenophobic) example:
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There is however no scientific consensus on the theory that CO2 produced by human activity is causing dangerous global warming today or will in the future, and that the world is facing environmental catastrophes unless these emissions are drastically reduced. Many renowned scientists continue to challenge this theory.

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If you're a voter who believes that environmental protections should play a major consideration when determining a party's platform, you wouldn't support the PPE.
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08-25-2021 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BrookTrout
Based on their sanitized version of their views that they present on their website, I can see why people would view the PPE as extreme and their platform as a collection of racist/populist dog whistles. Just one (non xenophobic) example:
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There is however no scientific consensus on the theory that CO2 produced by human activity is causing dangerous global warming today or will in the future, and that the world is facing environmental catastrophes unless these emissions are drastically reduced. Many renowned scientists continue to challenge this theory.

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If you're a voter who believes that environmental protections should play a major consideration when determining a party's platform, you wouldn't support the PPE.
There are scientists that challenge these theories. Though there are thousands more that state climate change is a major problem. The reality is neither the Liberals, Conservatives and Bloc can say they have a real climate strategy.

I still think if the Conservatives had nominated Maxine he could have beaten Justin . Though once he tried to start his own party they destroyed him.

I am not a big fan of polls but man Justin not looking good if you believe in polls.
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