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08-21-2021 , 12:33 PM

#3576

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You yourself know that childcare isn't what is best for young kids, so why advocate for it other than to buy votes for Trudeau?

I don't know this. I think there are multiple ways to raise children. In my family, my wife has chosen to stay at home with our kids, something we are extremely fortunate to be able to afford to do. But that doesn't mean it is always the "best" option or the only viable option. This isn't middle class white america in the 1950s.

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08-21-2021 , 02:13 PM

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Maybe. Maybe not. Is it obvious that Canada should be doing tactical missions that the Americans aren't doing, zipping around Kabul? Is "risk-adverse" right or wrong? I have no ****ing idea. Do you have detailed knowledge of Canadian vs French vs American operational capabilities, military liabilities, etc on the ground of a collapsing city? I don't.

My objection to you isn't that I have a clear eyed vision of what any country should or should not do, but because I object to the disgusting partisanship you tried to turn it into that Trudeau is giving them death sentences.

My point was O'Toole should be using this in his campaign ads. 12 years in the Airforce gives him the right to have an opinion on this

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08-21-2021 , 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lozen

Do you realize what a few percentage points does to debt especially mortgages. To many folks live paycheck to paycheck as it is.

What gets me is you can promise lower cost housing but you can not reduce costs.
I thin a better strategy is subsidized rents for lower income individuals. I never knew it was someone's right to own a home. Some financial experts say renting can be a better financial option

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Hiking up interest rates a ton might have a few other consequences than cooling off home prices.

Right but that is my point.
Houses prices are high because of the low interest rates (cheap money), not because they are worth that, its a bubble.

increasing houses supply in the hope of reducing house prices to support an house bubble is nonsense.
its US 2005-2008...

unless like i said, government aim massive inflation to pay down debts through inflation in every sector of society.
But if that is the plan, fine but they should say so so that people can prepare...

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08-21-2021 , 03:39 PM

#3579

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I guess we can just be very glad lozen is not managing the conservative campaign. Even if it might help trudeau secure a majority, I don't think anyone want to see party leaders try to desperately turn global tragedies into hyper partisan attacks accusing other leaders of giving out death sentences. e

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08-21-2021 , 05:58 PM

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Unlike you whom think Trudeau is doing something about climate change

Reality is Trudeau may be leaving many folks that aided our CDN forces out to die. His priority is the campaign not keeping CDN's safe from Covid or handling a massive issue like Afghanistan

Oh the days when Trudeau said I will not call an election during the Covid Crisis.

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08-22-2021 , 10:34 PM

#3581

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Originally Posted by uke_master

I don't know this. I think there are multiple ways to raise children. In my family, my wife has chosen to stay at home with our kids, something we are extremely fortunate to be able to afford to do. But that doesn't mean it is always the "best" option or the only viable option. This isn't middle class white america in the 1950s.

That's my point. I want more people to be fortunate enough or atleast have the option and be able to afford it, with better jobs, lower cost of living and lower taxes. You want high taxes, high energy costs and "free" daycare, because it's not 1950?

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08-22-2021 , 11:25 PM

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The opportunity cost of a woman taking off the first few years for each kid is hundreds of thousands of dollars. You think you can just magically wave your conservative tax savings wand and squeeze that kind of money out? For many families, the 1950s model where women stayed home and raised their kids while their husbands worked is both just not economically viable in 2021, but also not normative.

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08-22-2021 , 11:30 PM

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Maybe I’m wrong but seem to me , high taxes do help a lot of peoples by reducing the cost of living for those that needs it the most , since they already pay not much tax already …..

reducing tax might help the upper middle class and obv the top earners but it certainly will not help the bottom 30% (?) .
It’s a wage problem for them , not tax problems .

I mean do you really believe around 40% of the bottom population pays enough tax to cover their entire benefits from government?

So who are u aiming at when you want lower tax ?

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08-23-2021 , 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

The problem is costs just keep climbing for all the free stuff we get
Everyone wants affordable housing but when you had lumber prices increase 400% and everything else you need to build a house go up 10% that drives up prices
As for health care as we advance in neo natal care costs go up and add in the opioid crisis and obesity and our free health care costs keep climbing

Add in Fuel and groceries I really have no clue how some families do it

Sadly on the election trail we are getting all these promises that deep down we know very few will be delivered on

I liked O'tooles opioid addiction plan while Justin is getting pounded on Afghanistan

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08-23-2021 , 01:13 PM

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However, we just got the breaking news that indeed Canadian Special Forces have been working outside the kabul airport to escort canadians and afghans to the flights out Afghanistan. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/spe...abul-1.6150067

Will lozen give Trudeau credit now that he has apparently gotten what he wanted? Or will the goal post immediately shift?

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08-23-2021 , 01:33 PM

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The fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban has resulted din a lot of armchair wargaming by partisans looking for any desperate way to attack Trudeau. I was pretty upfront that I don't really have enough expertise to know what kind of military operations Canada should or should not be doing:

However, we just got the breaking news that indeed Canadian Special Forces have been working outside the kabul airport to escort canadians and afghans to the flights out Afghanistan. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/spe...abul-1.6150067

Will lozen give Trudeau credit now that he has apparently gotten what he wanted? Or will the goal post immediately shift?

To be honest I just saw that as well and was going to post Good News Canada has special forces outside the wires the exact same link

Britain, France and Canada are now making Biden look bad

Good Job Justin

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08-23-2021 , 03:28 PM

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Uke no credit to O'Toole for a very solid Opioid addiction Program and Funding

Uke any Idea if Justin will be releasing a platform or just running on his good looks and broken promises?

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08-23-2021 , 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by uke_master

The opportunity cost of a woman taking off the first few years for each kid is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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Originally Posted by uke_master

You think you can just magically wave your conservative tax savings wand and squeeze that kind of money out? For many families, the 1950s model where women stayed home and raised their kids while their husbands worked is both just not economically viable in 2021, but also not normative.

Alberta leads Canada in percentage of 1 parent staying home, wonder if conservative tax savings has anything to do with that. It can be economically viable if families really want to, it's also becoming a lot more common and normative the past few years.

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08-23-2021 , 04:15 PM

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Again, when did I say it has to be a women? Is it opportunity cost or tax revenue? People sacrafice the present for the future for less important things all the time, like going in 6 figure debt for a degree. Having healthy, happy, intelligent kids that you have a good relationship with is the most important thing a parent can do.

Alberta leads Canada in percentage of 1 parent staying home, wonder if conservative tax savings has anything to do with that. It can be economically viable if families really want to, it's also becoming a lot more common and normative the past few years.

I agree I know a bunch of friends that have done this. Yes they make sacrifices in the way of brand new fancy cars or a huge home. One even home schools and does an incredible job. They all seem very happy. 2 of 3 are conservative and the other NDP.

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08-23-2021 , 04:52 PM

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Uke no credit to O'Toole for a very solid Opioid addiction Program and Funding

Are you planning on crediting Trudeau for action item after action item after action item he has done thus far o the opioid crisis? https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana.../overview.html

Or about the excellent ideas in Budget 2021?

Like sure, dealing with the opioid crisis is something all politicians should do, and all of them are putting the money where their mouths are on this one. It isn't a distinguishing feature. If you want to go into the minutia of one plan vs another plan sure, but I think all you have done is found out that O'Toole said some stuff about opioids are are hoping for a slam dunk. Sorry, you don't get one.

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08-23-2021 , 04:58 PM

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having healthy, happy, intelligent kids that you have a good relationship with is the most important thing a parent can do.

Ys, yes, we all care about the kids. But of course this is entirely possible to do with quality, affordable, early childhood education, an option which might be extremely attractive to people without the luxury of having a "parent" (read "typically women") disrupting their (read "typically her") career for years on end.

Since you are so pro-natalist supporting stay-at-home-parent (read: "typically stay at home mom"), would you support government subsidizing a living wage to stay-at-home parents?

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08-23-2021 , 05:42 PM

#3592

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Originally Posted by Shifty86

Again , who’s got the highest income in Canada ?
Alberta …..
Tax has nothing to do with it except maybe a very slim range of wages .
( like those stuck near the bracket of % changes in tax ).

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08-23-2021 , 06:02 PM

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BC taking a huge leap forward over non-quebec provinces and instituting a vaccine passport for a large range of discretionary activities. Fantastic news.

Sorry, if you are a ****ing anti-vaxxer, you don't get to go drink beers with your friends at the bar. Sucks to be you.

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08-23-2021 , 06:21 PM

#3594

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It ain’t because you’re against force vaccination you are anti vaccination …
Don’t be binary like the right wing extremist or the woke movement…

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08-23-2021 , 06:27 PM

#3595

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Originally Posted by uke_master

Not sure if trolling or the next Stalin.

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08-23-2021 , 06:54 PM

#3596

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well you seem like a delight

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08-23-2021 , 10:46 PM

#3597

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Originally Posted by uke_master

For majority of people it's a choice they make, not a luxury.

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Since you are so pro-natalist supporting stay-at-home-parent (read: "typically stay at home mom"), would you support government subsidizing a living wage to stay-at-home parents?

It is typically a women, I'm not sure why this upsets you so much? It's kind of misogynistic of you.

I'd support a daycare tax to make it more expensive to convince people not to use them. Like you with carbon tax and fossil fuels.

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08-24-2021 , 08:13 AM

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You should write the PC campaign with your day care tax idea to encourage more women to stay at home to watch the kids. That way they can also have your scotch ready when you come home from work. The PC campaign can tie all of your ideas into a commercial that supports increased usage of fossil fuels for that extra punch.

All the best.

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08-24-2021 , 09:13 AM

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Nice to see the liberals use US style politics and manipulate a video than put it on twitter. Of course Justin defends the actions even though twitter labels it a manipulated video.

Justin's going to hire 7500 doctors and nurses. Same promise as in 2019 were he did nothing. I thought the province handles health care? Also do you not require lots and lots of education to become a nurse or doctor?