That is pretty crazy lozen.

What is says to me, and let me say this first, which is I do not think you are at all racist nor fascist, but I do think that because the things Trump would do in those areas do not harm you, you are not fussed by the fact that Trump would try to harm others and the nation in both those regards if in power.

I am not a Trudeau fan, not even a little bit but Trump poses a unique threat unless of course you are exempt from being negatively impacted by the threats he poses.

I said Trump was disgusting but ill engage with you

How about you list those things that made him disgusting and let me counter if Justin had done similar things

If I had to list the things I would give Trump some credit for
Covid vaccine
Some criminal justice reform
Keystone
Arming the Ukraines
Blocking the Nordstrom pipeline
Federal Animal Cruelty Bill
As much as many may not like the picks Supreme Court Judges

His attack on democracy will be what he is judged on and should be

Shouldn't tax payers be angry as he should have never bought it. Its as stupid as Kenney investing in Keystone

You know when your list includes the animal cruelty bill as if trump even knows what that is or had any role in making it happen that you are just spitting as much BS as the master himself.

Actually it was his daughter in law Lara Trump that spear headed this and Trump is credited with it.

OK you tell me what Trudeau has accomplished in his how many years in office.

Gonna be a short list

He didn’t create a civil war between conservatives and liberals .
That is a pretty big start …..

Seriously if you can’t see the massive differences between Trump and trudeau , probably no amount of other information you get will change anything anyway !

Fwiw, Facts do not have a good record of changing conservatives views , so why even bother today really ?

Trump been there 4 years already , if you don’t already know all the problems he causes …

What’s your point ?
Anyone here thinks oil isn’t needed in the world still ?
We’re in 2021 not 2050…

Oil production are still lower than 2019 level with a much higher prices .
Don’t you think it’s normal they ask increase production to lower prices …

Told you , Canada is in a good place with his $ value because no one yet steal oil market shares from Canada .
Once Russia and Saudi Arabia increases production will see how Canada perform ….

He has begun the war in my opinion definitely like Trump.

Though I do agree with the fact that it is very difficult to change the extreme right or left voters. They will vote for whatever idiot you put up as corrupt as they me be or even if they fail to deliver on their promises. The only hope you have is to peel away the moderates.

You may call Trump a sexual assaulter well Trudeau is as well
You could call Trump a racist . You could say that about Trudeau as well with all the black face incidents
You could say Trump never delivered on his campaign promises well Trudeau has not either
You could say Trump is corrupt and his family benefitted from his office well you can say that about Trudeau as well


No one yet has given me a reason to vote Trudeau or what he has accomplished in his how many years

Let me add when they both ran they both sounded different but they both turned out the same

Your equating 5-10% of mistake to 90% mistake as being the same …..

Aladin isn’t freakn black …
Calling trudeau racist is laughable .

Just the context of bill 21, the India trip , etc . Everything to includes minority to get votes .
Is more woke than racist .

Trudeau sexual assault ?
….. please .

Trudeau might be the biggest pussy of a prime minister this country ever got. .
To put him in extrem camp like for trump is nonsense .

Trump was brutally racist and xenophobic causing massive spikes in white supremacy and violence against POC.

He ran the 2016 election against the Brown Menace known as Mexican's and his wall.

He ran the 2018 midterms hyping up fear of the Brown Menace known as immigrants approaching the border.

He ran the 2020 election hyping up fears of the Brown Menace known as Antifa.

2022 he is trying to drive the Republicans to run on the Brown Menace known as Critical Race Theory.

Every single election his major plank is fear POC, they are a menace.

Yes Trudeau wore black face back when lots of people made the clumsy mistake of thinking that was an allowable funny and in todays ooboo world that does not fly but it is hardly racist. Ignorant maybe but only in hindsight.

Trump also did his best to destroy the Western Alliances (Nato, Nafta, Paris Accords, etc) which was massively dangerous in a time of Chinese escalation.

Trump also made clear that almost every area of US foreign relations was for sale. For the cheap low price of a few millions dollars to Ivanka or a Billion to Jared, you can get favourable deals in China or get Trump to declare Qatar an enemy. Ukraine will be cut off and fed to Russia if they do not support his election lies (I see you try to credit him with arming Ukraine despite him being forced to do that).

Trump also was busy trying to dismantle every Federal Agency that provided protections to the citizens or country putting lobbyists or the like who had called for the dismantling of the agencies in charge of those very agencies.

Holy **** dude, seriously??? I don't even know what to say.

+1

That it's hypocritical to shut down a near complete pipeline and attempt to shut down domestic production while asking OPEC to increase production while importing more oil from Russia, especially after they hacked the last election.

Now you are just making things up. Alberta just set a record for all time oil production.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tion-1.6137423

I grant you the first point .

The second point I was talking worldwide…..

Who cares about oil production from Alberta in the ocean of oil in the world .
It is what 3-4% of oil production worldwide ,shrug.
And when Saudi+ Russia opens the valves, it will be interesting .
Like I said , thx to Russia and Saudi being so generous to us for now ….

oil isn’t eternal that is the main point and those crazy politicians in Alberta should think about transitioning now into other economic sectors instead of investing billions for futur oil projects …

Your denying Trudeau sexually assaulted a reporter? Oh he did it in his 20's so it doesn't count

I never said Trudeau was a racist but society has used the standard of those who do black face must go or be cancelled and are racist. Though he is the first to paint his whole body black and prance around as a monkey. If O'Toole did that in his youth I am sure everyone would use the racist term.

I do not think he is racist

Only thing I disagree with is Nato and Ukraine. Trump tried to force Nato countries to pay their fair share. I do believe that is another promise JT broke

As for Ukraine forced or not all Obama did was sent blankets

Trump is bad I just see the two as being similar as to how far they have damaged their respective countries

Though I have asked many times tell me Justin's accomplishments and why he deserves a majority and lets forget Trump. I concur Trump was evil

Looks like we are having an election on Sept 20th.

Given that there are actual right wing albertans out there that believe trump of all people is better than trudeau, this is going to get nasty. Thank goodness I don't believe the rest of the country agrees.

Calling an election no one wants in the beginning of a fourth wave. What a leader.

Your right about the nasty I see all the false ads about Erin O'toole in Alberta already

I wonder if that talking point will work to change minds outside of the "trump-is-better-than-trudeau" extreme far right fringe. I sort of expect it to fall fairly flat. Every single person who wants a vaccine has had one, the election will be less interactive than going to a grocery store, is anyone really going to believe the whining and sniveling about pandemic risk in Alberta, a place that is eliminating most of testing, masking, and isolation requirements?

in other news, the universities of ottawa, waterloo and toronto all just introduced vaccine mandates. This is a bit of a sea change as this is common in the big US schools, but in Canada nobody was doing it. And the way Canadian universities go, if UofT does something the dominos start to fall pretty quickly. Really hoping we can introduce it at my university out in BC.

Polling is usually done in schools and there have been some doctors questioning if this is wise. I have seen mixed opinions on how long Covid can exist on surfaces. Kids are not vaccinated.
As for Alberta eliminating most of the testing, masking and isolation requirements. Many Albertan's do not agree with Dr Hinshaw. Lets remember Quebec is not mandating masks in Classrooms as well.

I would be shocked if JT gets a majority though O'Toole has no chance

I agree with the policy as well and would say and no religious exemptions as well

I'm not saying there isn't any risk, but I think it is fair to say that it is substantially less risky than tonnes of things we completely accept every day. Businesses are largely back up and open across Canada, restrictions have been lifted on all sorts of things, and we are pretty close to "back to normal". So if you want to prevent an election due to pandemic risks, ought you not want to be closing a tonne more of the Canadian economy down as well?

And it is worth noting this is different depending on where you are on the political spectrum. The left is going to be worried more about this than the right. A far right person who is so deluded politically they think Trump is better than Trudeau just isn't the type of voter to be likely giving many shits about marginal pandemic risks unless it is just an empty talking point.

Canada will donate 10 million j&j doses. Just in time for the snap election

You make stuff up I am not far right I would say I lean to the left. My point is if I had to choose between Trudeau or Trump I am not sure were I would vote. Lets face reality this isn't a realistic situation just a hypothetical. I think both have had an impact on destroying their countries. You forget the fact that I voted for Trudeau the first time he ran and have voted Rachel Notley the last two provincial elections. I will be voting for O'Toole . I think JT has a chance at a few seats here in Alberta as well

I still challenge you to list Justin's accomplishments in the 5-1/2 years in office?

You say this, but then you also said this:
This is just pure insanity. You don't "lean left" and believe this.