Lolcanada mixed messaging on almost everything from the beginning, so why would vaccines be any different

https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/nac...ance-1.5413081

I am proud to be playing my small part in our government's science experiment. I hope I don't get one of those lame superpowers.

I was thinking same thing will we ever see anymore AZ vaccines

I remember when a few of us were considering waiting for the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine and labeled selfish and possibly responsible for more deaths
yet that is what our government is advising with the J&J??? WTF



Global National calling the Military Sexual Assaults a cover up by Trudeau now.

https://globalnews.ca/video/7831362/...ing-cancelled/

Ya I said from the very start of the first vaccine being brought to market that citizens were being used as guinea pigs, in real time.

I do not say that to be reactionary. I am not even saying that is wrong. It is just reality.

Big Pharma and the CDC say 'no short cuts were taken, things were just done in parallel' but that is simply not true. But I understand why they feel they have to say that otherwise many more people would be too frightened to take the vaccines.

Gov'ts and the CDC etc, simply made the CHOICE and BET that the 'still' unknown risks of the vaccines were less than the known risks of Coronavirus. And in terms of weighting 'risk' I do not disagree.

There is a reason why prior vaccines would typically go through years of trials before being approved and it is not solely the lack of a 'Trump' pushing. It is because one of the best 'discovery' factors of trails and testing is 'Time'. You cannot short circuit time. And time, in some cases will reveal some things that a lack of time did not.

So if 'time' is a factor is an issue, instead of seeing adverse events in small test populations, as part of 'trials' we are going to see those adverse events play out in a majority of the population.

'Time' would allow them to test, mixing vaccines and determine if it 'better', 'worse' or 'neutral'. 'Time' would have isolated out the Allergy risk which we saw play out in real time instead. "Time' exposes a lot.

But again, with a very real deadly risk (the virus) active I understand and agree with the gamble chosen. If someone is shooting at me with a gun I am going to grab whatever I can in the hopes it can stop the bullet. I am not going to wait until it is tested and proven.

I just wish society was mature enough that gov't and the CDC could give us the full truth, Winston Churchill style, and still get the compliance they needed.

No, one of the biggest reasons why it moved so much faster was because of the huge prevalence of covid right now. In a normal vaccine trial the main reason it takes time is because you can't deliberately expose your trial participants to a deadly disease, so it takes years and years to ascertain that a certain percentage of them will be exposed to the pathogen naturally. But with covid the likelihood is that there will be plenty of exposure in a random group of people, so it makes it easier to study.

Radio so no link, but BC's Bonnie Henry said yesterday that firstly they do expect the federal government to procure enough AZ for second doses within the 16 week window, but that mix and match is being watched carefully due to this being studied in europe. So the combined message was yes, you will get a second dose, but we are waiting a little bit to see whether that proves better to be AZ or mRNA which is totally fine by me.

100% agree I think we would have more compliance and vaccinations.

Alberta says its putting in more restrictions today. Chances are they will have zero impact

Kenney Shut down parliament and the consensus he has gone into hiding Notley had a good take on it

You're a good canadian uke. Patient, obedient and lapping up everything the gov tells you. I don't doubt I'll get a 2nd dose. But can't help but feel the entire population is part of some double blinded study. I will do my part for science!

Well Kenny lost my vote. It's not that I'm anti-lockdown or whatever. It's that we got almost the exact same speech a year ago. This has to be one of the most mismanaged events ever, and any politician that has a part of it deserves to be unemployed and find work elsewhere.

Canadians are diggin vaccine passports

https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/can...deau-1.5413736

I think you might have the wrong link there.

I dunno man .
Dropping your guy because of 1 speech you didn’t like?

I’m beginning to understand why trump was so popular for the right .
Punch line seem more important than actual policy .....

Thanks I can't find the original I meant to post, but here is something related

https://www.680news.com/2021/05/04/c...ine-passports/

Small minority in favour, and if the question asked was in relation to travel, that's not surprising. I think if the question was about them being used more broadly, domestically, the numbers might be quite different.

Kenney deserves to lose your vote for

• Investing 1.8 nillion in a pipeline that any idiot knew would be cancelled when Biden won
• New School Curiculum
• Is overall handling of Alberta's economy slashing corporate taxes lower

The pandemic is tough balancing politics with shut downs. Part of me thinks you can shut it down all you want but unless your prepared to enforce the rules there will always be a percentage that will ignore them.
Reality is Notley will probably win the next election but she can not make the tough decisions that need to be made as well.

I am surprised the UCP have not seen the sinking ship and ditched the captain

If the handling of Covid is the reason to get rid of him Trudeau should be gone as well

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• Investing 1.8 nillion in a pipeline that any idiot knew would be cancelled when Biden won