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04-19-2021 , 08:22 PM
BC announced they are targeting high risk areas for AZ, for everyone 40+.

Also, they expect to have offered vaccine to 60% of BC population by the end of May. They're getting much stricter on travel restrictions here (no non-essential travel outside of your own local region, enforced by random roadblocks similar to drunk driving enforcement) until the May long weekend, and they're working with the travel industry to have everyone not take bookings (and cancel existing ones) for anyone outside their region, for the same time period. All their messaging is around clamping down until the May long weekend, lining up with the 60% vaccination goal.

No other new restrictions, though. IE no stay at home, work from home, or closing retail orders. Main orders remain no in-restaurant dining (patios still OK), asking people to work from home where possible, no visiting inside, and limiting outside visits to a circle of 10 or less (but discouraging even that if not needed).
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04-20-2021 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
BC announced they are targeting high risk areas for AZ, for everyone 40+.

Also, they expect to have offered vaccine to 60% of BC population by the end of May. They're getting much stricter on travel restrictions here (no non-essential travel outside of your own local region, enforced by random roadblocks similar to drunk driving enforcement) until the May long weekend, and they're working with the travel industry to have everyone not take bookings (and cancel existing ones) for anyone outside their region, for the same time period. All their messaging is around clamping down until the May long weekend, lining up with the 60% vaccination goal.

No other new restrictions, though. IE no stay at home, work from home, or closing retail orders. Main orders remain no in-restaurant dining (patios still OK), asking people to work from home where possible, no visiting inside, and limiting outside visits to a circle of 10 or less (but discouraging even that if not needed).
Some of the experts are calling for that strategy federally with all vaccines not dispensing them on a per capita basis. Its the right thing to do but no way Liberals do that as its political dynamite

Got to give it to the liberals that budget was huge and they know they have the NDP's not voting against anything
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04-20-2021 , 10:51 AM
I'm supportive of most of the spending items, and agree this IS the time to invest in some of the big ticket things like childcare, but what frustrates me is the capitulation to the conservatives on the corporate tax rate. Deficits ballooned in part because Harper massively slashed the corporate tax rate. Trump them followed suit which sort of retroactively justified the corporate tax cuts despite being objectively terrible. Now Biden is going to increase the american corporate tax rates so that issue of competitive disadvantage goes away and Trudeau should raise them right back up. But no, the payfors in the budget are all just tinkering at the edges. Good tinkering, for the most part, but tinkering nonetheless.

And while there is some green energy spending, it should be 10x.
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04-20-2021 , 12:08 PM
The world needs a collective agreement on what corporate tax rates should be. That way nations don't run to the bottom all the time.
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04-20-2021 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
The world needs a collective agreement on what corporate tax rates should be. That way nations don't run to the bottom all the time.
This is just lol.
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04-20-2021 , 12:43 PM
https://globalnews.ca/news/7773469/c...avel-advisory/

This is kinda funny and sad compared to the way people/media viewed the US a few months ago.
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04-20-2021 , 12:54 PM
What's funny about it? The US lists 80% of countries on Do Not Travel and the other 20% as discouraged. It seems you think this is some special criticism of Canada. And Canadians should also not travel to the US, it is still getting 50-80 thousand cases a day despite massive vaccination numbers from its vaccine nationalism that lets it keep all its vaccines completely to themselves.
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04-20-2021 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
https://globalnews.ca/news/7773469/c...avel-advisory/

This is kinda funny and sad compared to the way people/media viewed the US a few months ago.
Well, not too many months ago the elected head of the US was re-tweeting a doctor with a history of blaming diseases on demon sperm.

The change in leadership, messaging and results might have something to do with the shift in perception of the US.
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04-20-2021 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
What's funny about it? The US lists 80% of countries on Do Not Travel and the other 20% as discouraged. It seems you think this is some special criticism of Canada. And Canadians should also not travel to the US, it is still getting 50-80 thousand cases a day despite massive vaccination numbers from its vaccine nationalism that lets it keep all its vaccines completely to themselves.
Do you think we would be doing the opposite if we had vaccine production? I find it funny that the left bashed Trump for his America first policy yet Biden is doing the same thing and was even going to hold refugee limits to 15,000

Some of the left leaning states with the most extreme lockdowns have done the worst.
USA had a couple good days 50,000 cases and deaths lower as well. Huge mistake suspending the J&J vaccine
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04-20-2021 , 02:36 PM
I don't know about "would" but definitely "should". Vaccine nationalism, which the US has the most extreme case of but which Canada is hardly immune* to), is honestly a pretty disgusting inditement about the power dynamics of the so called first world. I would have tried to push much harder in things like suspending patent laws, government taking over manufacturing to be able to support pfizer having 10x the manufacturing capacities even if it isn't cost-productive, etc etc. Instead it was largely left to the companies to maximize profits, with border restrictions allowing all the vaccine to stay in the US.

As for refugees, I've been a critic under Obama, absolutely under Trump, and in the initial stages of Biden too. The one person I will give actual credit here to is Trudeau. I thought it was extremely brave, and appropriate, that his first major act coming into office in 2015 was the resettlement of 25000 refugees from the syrian crisis. That was exactly the kind of global leadership I want Canada to do, and even years later it while not being without challenges, was generally a big success. https://theconversation.com/syrian-r...welcome-126312.

*hahaha
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04-20-2021 , 03:19 PM
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As for refugees, I've been a critic under Obama, absolutely under Trump, and in the initial stages of Biden too. The one person I will give actual credit here to is Trudeau. I thought it was extremely brave, and appropriate, that his first major act coming into office in 2015 was the resettlement of 25000 refugees from the syrian crisis. That was exactly the kind of global leadership I want Canada to do, and even years later it while not being without challenges, was generally a big success. https://theconversation.com/syrian-r...welcome-126312.
Yes I agree and felt great about my vote for him after that it was all downhill for me
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04-20-2021 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
This is just lol.
And yet, that very well might happen soon. What is your issue with it?

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Originally Posted by Shifty86
https://globalnews.ca/news/7773469/c...avel-advisory/

This is kinda funny and sad compared to the way people/media viewed the US a few months ago.
It doesn't seem either funny or sad; in fact, it hardly seems noteworthy. A few months ago, the US was viewed as it should have been. Now, much of the world is in the midst of another surge/wave. What of it?

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Originally Posted by lozen
Huge mistake suspending the J&J vaccine
Dr. Lozen weighs in again, picking and choosing what health expert advice should be listened to.
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04-20-2021 , 08:51 PM
25% of canadians have received their first dose. Also my favorite, the hotel quarantine, set to resume until at least may 21st with an eye on doing more regarding travel.
https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/tru...more-1.5395376


Again, sharing a huge border with the states allowing hundreds of truckers in daily seems like a huge leak.

Truck drivers now need to use an app which collects their info.

Truckers and covid
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5910888



Dougie ford has been mia since his hugely unpopular increased police powers and playground closures which were reversed the next day amid huge blowback from everywhere. He is so unpopular he is said to finally be considering paid sick leave which has been requested repeatedly for the better part of the year

Last edited by nutella virus; 04-20-2021 at 09:00 PM.
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04-20-2021 , 08:55 PM
And we're up to 30% of eligible (16+) Canadians.

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04-20-2021 , 09:03 PM
Nice, the pharmacies here are jammed since they reduced the age to 40. I believe 20 across the province will now be 24/7
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04-21-2021 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Dougie ford has been mia since his hugely unpopular increased police powers and playground closures which were reversed the next day amid huge blowback from everywhere. He is so unpopular he is said to finally be considering paid sick leave which has been requested repeatedly for the better part of the year
I've never seen more white middle class people screaching at the great injustices of the world than the 12 hours they were not allowed to put their brats in the swing. Like THAT was the straw that finally broke the camels back for you?
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04-21-2021 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Nice, the pharmacies here are jammed since they reduced the age to 40. I believe 20 across the province will now be 24/7
It now sounds like we will totally run out of AZ unless we can get the US to release us some more!
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04-21-2021 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I've never seen more white middle class people screaching at the great injustices of the world than the 12 hours they were not allowed to put their brats in the swing. Like THAT was the straw that finally broke the camels back for you?
Well, perhaps the schools closing again (likely for the rest of the school year) had an impact as well, because - if you actually had kids (you certainly post like someone who does not have any or abhors them) you would realize the open/closed school situation can be very disruptive in many ways.

Tossing in weird military state rules may very well have been the final straw, but it was hardly the only one, and buck a beer dude, while usually getting out of the way of the medical community, has made some pretty weak choices recently.
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04-21-2021 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
25% of canadians have received their first dose. Also my favorite, the hotel quarantine, set to resume until at least may 21st with an eye on doing more regarding travel.
https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/tru...more-1.5395376


Again, sharing a huge border with the states allowing hundreds of truckers in daily seems like a huge leak.

Truck drivers now need to use an app which collects their info.

Truckers and covid
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5910888



Dougie ford has been mia since his hugely unpopular increased police powers and playground closures which were reversed the next day amid huge blowback from everywhere. He is so unpopular he is said to finally be considering paid sick leave which has been requested repeatedly for the better part of the year
Manitoba is partnering with North Dakota to get all its truckers vaccinated which other provinces should attempt to Model.

Alberta had 35,000 book AZ with age reduction which is a good thing
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04-21-2021 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Manitoba is partnering with North Dakota to get all its truckers vaccinated which other provinces should attempt to Model.



Alberta had 35,000 book AZ with age reduction which is a good thing
Ya AZ is opening up to my demographic. Lots of ppl getting the jab now
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04-21-2021 , 12:44 PM
Been following a mathematician from UofC who has properly modeled pretty much everything with respect to the pandemic. She has posted a #ZeroCovid path for Canada which makes a lot of sense. Cross posted in the covid thread:


https://zerocovidcanada.org/take-action

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Measures for Canada to Achieve Zero Covid

Adopt an explicit goal of COVID elimination and clearly communicate it to Canadians.

Implement international and interprovincial travel restrictions by mandating supervised quarantine for all travellers. Provide priority vaccination and rapid tests for commercial truck drivers and essential workers who travel regularly between provinces and countries. Create out-of-home supported isolation hotels for incoming travelers to ensure they do not bring new cases into the community.

Order a strict, enforced, and financially supported lockdown immediately. The federal government needs to continue to provide strong financial support for businesses and people including paid sick/isolation leave. Close all non-essential businesses during the lockdown. Restaurants and bars should be open for take-out only.

In-school transmission of Covid shows that schools are currently not safe for children. In-person learning should transition to online learning immediately. Small in-person classes should be provided for essential workers and for children who would experience significant developmental harm from not being at school.

Fund an aggressive Test/Trace/Isolate capacity to prevent chains of transmissions.

Provide clear guidance for Infection Prevention and Control (IPC) for Public Health and employers to follow airborne precautions to protect against Covid. Provide N95 respirators to health care workers, staff and residents in care homes, patients in hospitals, teachers in schools, and other frontline workers. Provide the general public with N95 respirators, free of charge. Develop a fund to assist employers and community building owners to improve air filtration and ventilation.
Kill the virus, save the world.
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04-21-2021 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Been following a mathematician from UofC who has properly modeled pretty much everything with respect to the pandemic. She has posted a #ZeroCovid path for Canada which makes a lot of sense. Cross posted in the covid thread:


https://zerocovidcanada.org/take-action



Kill the virus, save the world.
Yes I get that but not sure how true this is. When you have two flights a day landing from India a Covid Hotspot I question what were doing.


Sadly the above will never be done as each province is going to do their own thing

Lets just hope the modeling is wrong
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04-21-2021 , 01:08 PM
Yeah, they 100% need to cut off travel from India. Why that hasn't been done yet is beyond me. I'm sure everyone coming in has tested negative and needs to isolate for 14 days, but some won't and once that bug is here it won't go away.
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04-21-2021 , 01:39 PM
Negative tests are cheaply bought. As for why the flights aren’t cancelled, would you piss off a major producer of vaccines at this time? I hope I’m being cynical, but as you said: a valid reason for allowing flights from India is unfathomable.
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04-21-2021 , 01:42 PM
What about canadian citizens or permanent residents arriving from india....is that ok in your new world order
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