And economist say the opposite of you…

lol the video …

So now your calling the PBO a liar ?

Name them please

I remember back in the day when all the economist said the opposite of me that Bitcoin was worthless.

Exactly !
That is why I laugh at the video lozen posted .

It’s a video with no context that last 15sec, cut short , no idea what time frame he was speaking of and like you said , taking into account future economics results as proof that carbon taxes is in the end costing people money .

The fed with 100s of phd can’t predict 6 month in advance absolutely nothing about the economy but the PBO can lol .

Get over it lozen ….. tax carbon by itself in the vast majority of cases gives money back or the cost is nil to consumers .


But here a secret for you lozen , yes every taxes is possibly a negative about future economics growth because u reduce the money in the economy but it isn’t a certainty !

Hell the BoC and all the central bank in the world raised interest rates at like double the rates people though was impossible to do without a recession !
And here we are today still waiting !!!
And I promise you , a raise if 500 basis point in interest rates should clearly slow more the economy then the equivalent of the gaz tax in Alberta !!!
And it didn’t ….
So please with the almighty tax carbon will reduce the economy growth from a out of context video from the PBO lol .

Btw here is a thought lozen !
Let’s say after 5 years , tax carbon forced some company to innovate and because of it they find an amazing discovery about helping reduce emission ?
Oops no more problem in economic growth -> PBO wrong !
Tax carbon was beneficial and we can export the technology worldwide making tons of money ….

I guess your prayers been answered ?
Sorry it’s in French tho ….

All your narrative gets debunked.
They even admit that the tax carbon is the best and cheapest way to fight emissions .
It gives huge amount of flexibility for everyone to choose from through that taxe .

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...omie-plaidoyer

All around the country they all sign in favor of the carbon tax and they decide to do that letter since the majority of what we hear isn’t based on reality .
Ouch to you lozen ….

It says they agree with the government following a policy to reduce emission cheaply and the tax carbon those exactly that .
It’s practically unanimously from the economists that tax carbon is the best way to fight emission !
Right there !
Read it !

What do you know ,
I’m surprise …..
They say tax carbon it’s the cheapest way, compare to all other alternatives , to reduce emissions .
And it’s based on common sense , if prices go up demands goes down !
My goodness who knew !
The law of demand and supply works for carbon tax too …..
Unbelievable!

Tax carbon seem Not be inflationary much because it already exist and the inflation rates in countries that have no carbon tax is similar with those countries that have carbon tax !
Another loss my good friend to you !

Ho yes most familly will receive more money , I repeat more money , I repeat they will receive more money -> then they pay lol……
Right here backing by 165 economist around Canada !
Is that good enough for you ???????


They all agree , if u don’t use the carbon tax , every other alternative will be more costly , more costly , more costly !!!!
U get that lozen ???

Again carbon tax will be the least costly and wtf did I tell you over many pages ?????
Promote innovation to be better !!!!


Ok u wanted economist u got a freakn huge load of them from all over the country ffs .
Your polievre just lie to you like a freakn trumpist !
Wake up !!!!
Please we want the lozen from 2018-19 coming back to reality, to us ….

Many of those companies are investing in the technology themselves.




Sorry the corruption of Justin Trudeau lost you the Lozen of 2017-18

Here is the full video not just the clip

There is this line that LNG is some panacea that scoffs when the Liberals point out the business case isn’t always there. But this Alberta Econ prof runs some numbers that the business case actually really might not be there: https://x.com/andrew_leach/status/17...96Ytk2nEU_KokQ

Yet we have Germany, Japan and Greece asking Canada for LNG ?

You could be right the costs and red tape imposed by the Liberals may make it impossible.

Maybe. That is certainly Poiliebre's line. But just because he says something, doesn't make actual economists wrong.

U need to build sheep , ports, etc .
U have already massive competition from the U.S. .
Lng prices moves all over .
Take years to build .
Cost many billions of investment at 5% interest rates ?

But yes its Trudeau fault like always .

Well at least u seem to deny the exactitude of your false premise finally ….
Btw if only it was only about Justin we would wish to see the 2019 lozen , unfortunately it embraced every topic maga likes !
Certainly ain’t just Trudeau fault ….

Ps: before saying Justin Trudeau is corrupted -> did he got condemn in any court of laws ?
Isn’t that why you defend trump teeth and nails ?
Didn’t get condemn criminally yet ?
So why the double standard ?

What do sheep have to do with it ?

Well that is not how our system works as well when you block the RCMP from investigating you its tough to lay criminal charges

3 ethics violations and a massive lawsuit settlement for what he did show a long line of corruption.

Defend Trump tooth and nails I have said he is guilty in my opinion on two of the charges and should not be allowed to run for President. Though ill take him any day over Biden

typo
ship that cost easily 200 millions to build .


what lawsuit settlement ?
so corrupt liberal is not ok but corrupt conservative it is ok.
i got it now, thx.

Lol, nothing like "running the numbers" on a business case when the price of something is at a 2 year low. Like 20 LNG projects applied for approval under the Liberals. Maybe we should let the private sector and subject matter experts decide if there is a business case, not governments officials.

Admiral Mark Norman who Trudeau villified and defamed

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/0629-ed-editorial

I am not sure how you can have conservative corruption when they are not in power when they are I hope we both call it out

lmao at lozen trying to dredge up a 5 year old story about Norman's actions who the crowd judge said were inappropriate, just not criminal. Anything to try and get mad at Trudeau it seems.

200+ Canadian economics with economics PhDs support the carbon tax and blast many of the idiotic talking points from the conservatives: https://sites.google.com/view/open-l...carbon-pricing. Remember, carbon pricing used to be the more conservative, market-based approach to dealing with carbon change, the current batch of politcos are all just making this stuff up: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star...f09eee62e.html

The fact that Uke will not admit that we could get to Net Zero tomorrow and it will have no effect on reducing forest fires or saving white Christmases . The reality is 1000 economists can say they support the carbon tax and the reality it just cost CDN's more and will do nothing in the overall climate situation .

Well at least Justin has a plan for renters that is more laughable than his climate plan

Axe the tax and axe Trudeau

Montreal asked me what civil action. I guess you support destroying a military person and their career based on false allegations

The reality is your a fan of Trudeau and I think he is the most disgusting human being to lead a country. The sad reality is I feel sorry for the mess Pierre will inherit .

Neither one of our opinions will change though the reality is Ill call out Pierre when if he is PM

Uke can't admit that basic truth because it dismantles everything else.

Tbh from what I read he is actually more right than you are on the carbon tax effects on Canadian society (yes I know my opinion is irrelevant as I am not Canadian).

But point is ALL efforts to reduce emissions are objectively useless for Canadians EVEN if you believe climate change to be a great threat to Canadian society (and if you do, you are wrong, deeply so).

But tbh the carbon tax from what I read is just a normal messed up tax like many others are, not special, ok let's get rid of it but the main course is to explicitly stop all attempts at reducing emissions as absolute folly

This is a weird post. I’ve noted that Canada has a small but disproportionate portion of global emissions many times and argued that we have a proportional moral responsibility to do our part. Nobody is “not admitting” that Canada can’t do it alone - obviously not. But we do have a responsibility to do our part. You’ve even previously agreed with me on that!

I know you won't answer, yet the idea is that "moral responsibility" can be disagreed upon, and if you do, there is nothing left.

you are literally saying Canadians should sacrifice themselves for non Canadians for decades *even if it's objectively true that doing so won't improve the quality of life of Canadians*.

that's akin to claim there is a moral responsibility to worldwide charity, AND trying to enforce that moral position with laws, with state violence, against people who disagree.

they just say **** YOU, I give to the causes I care about, when I want to the amount I want to, and it's outrageous to even think the state should be used to violently force everyone to donate to foreigners you want to help.

imho it should be actually fully illegal to use the state to help someone who is not a citizen, but that's just my MORAL position.