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01-13-2022 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Remember when Uke said to expect more natural disasters because of climate change.


https://michaelshellenberger.substac...-have-declined
I'm sure that will be great comfort to my wife's family in the Philippines that just got hit with a super typhoon in an area that never got more then tropical storms or category ones before. Or to all Filipinos in general where the highest death toll from typhoons was in 1888 and the next 5 highest were in the last 20 years.
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01-13-2022 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol OF COURSE you are a shellenberger fan. Not that this piece is damaging in the slighest. It takes a while, but he finally gets around to stating the completely obvious point near the end:

Sure, better infrastructure and technologies make disasters better. But that isn't evidence against climate change increasing the severity of climate events.
After Haiyan/Yolanda the Philippines changed evacuation notices to orders. You can voluntarily leave or get handcuffed and taken away. Over 6300 died in Haiyan in 2013, around 400 died last month in Rai/Odette.
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01-14-2022 , 10:39 AM
Of course Climate change is real we do not need storms in the Philippines to tell us that. Just need to look at our own provinces of BC & Alberta to see that.
Many of us just do not agree on how we need to deal with it or if we can change it.
As we can see with Science its always evolving and changing when it comes to nature.
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01-14-2022 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Well, to be fair he did not go looking for an extreme alt-right anti environment derp as a source like you did to validate your beliefs, so there is that. Be sure to buy his books and subscribe to his various social media platforms. His latest work is titled "San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities," and that clearly shows that he is a middle of the road kind of guy that fairly looks at data without any agenda! Did you see how he changed the name of that lefty city to have Sicko as part of it! Heh, derps.

All the best.
I typically ignore your posts because you think you are a clever troll but in reality you're an idiot. Progressive policies around drug use has ruined cities, San Francisco being the biggest one. Even the mayor now agrees.


https://michaelshellenberger.substac...mayor-promises
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01-14-2022 , 02:03 PM
Oh geese, more shellenberger! I’d have thought you’d have given up after your last embarrassing share of his blog
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01-14-2022 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol OF COURSE you are a shellenberger fan. Not that this piece is damaging in the slighest. It takes a while, but he finally gets around to stating the completely obvious point near the end:
Of course I am, why wouldn't someone be unless they were a zealot? He's done important work including lobbying to keep nuclear plants open.

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Originally Posted by uke_master
Sure, better infrastructure and technologies make disasters better.
Thanks fossil fuels!

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Originally Posted by uke_master
But that isn't evidence against climate change increasing the severity of climate events.

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Today’s graph is based on data kept by EM-DAT in Belgium, which is widely viewed as an authoritative source for data on global disasters. The data show that from 2000 to 2021, the number of global weather and climate disasters declined by about 10%, which is very good news and completely contrary to conventional wisdom. The period since 2000 is viewed as the most reliable for data reliability, but it is safe to say that even since 2000, coverage has improved. So the 10% decline is possibly an underestimate. The trends reported here are consistent with independent, peer-reviewed research (e.g., this and this). Of course, don’t use data on disasters to say anything about changes in weather or climate — data on specific weather and climate variables are always more appropriate for tracking changes in climate.
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01-14-2022 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ILikeBeer
I'm sure that will be great comfort to my wife's family in the Philippines that just got hit with a super typhoon in an area that never got more then tropical storms or category ones before. Or to all Filipinos in general where the highest death toll from typhoons was in 1888 and the next 5 highest were in the last 20 years.
Sorry to hear about your wife's family.But I am not sure why you are directing anger towards me? I champion the use of fossil fuels and say we should be using way more! It's people like Uke and his ilk that want to restrict the use of fossil fuels which obviously hurts poor countries like the Philippines.
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01-14-2022 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Oh geese, more shellenberger! I’d have thought you’d have given up after your last embarrassing share of his blog
How does businessinsider work for you? Do you have an argument to what he said or just your typical attempts to bash his character?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...-2021-12%3famp

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Similar debates are taking place across the country in liberal cities where the murder of George Floyd led to a surge of progressive activism that included calls to rethink the way cities deal with crime. Some cities where there were calls to defund the police, , have moved in recent months to bolster police budgets.

Last edited by Shifty86; 01-14-2022 at 02:26 PM.
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01-14-2022 , 02:44 PM
You have requoted him which seems to imply you haven't yet figured out how the quote doesn't help your position. As he (eventually) gets around to saying, the main reason "disasters" may have slightly declined is due to improvements in infrastructure and technology. We will likely need to keep making big improvements here as climate change accelerates. But this doesn't say anything about the severity of climate events. He even tells you not to make leaps about this!

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Of course, don’t use data on disasters to say anything about changes in weather or climate — data on specific weather and climate variables are always more appropriate for tracking changes in climate.
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01-14-2022 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You have requoted him which seems to imply you haven't yet figured out how the quote doesn't help your position. As he (eventually) gets around to saying, the main reason "disasters" may have slightly declined is due to improvements in infrastructure and technology. We will likely need to keep making big improvements here as climate change accelerates. But this doesn't say anything about the severity of climate events. He even tells you not to make leaps about this!
I like an answer like this. Instead of us calling one another idiots are stupid.

Reality is if you look at some of the recent disasters here at home yes they can be attributed to climate change but as well poor decision making. You look at the flooding in BC everyone knew for over a decade that improvements had to be made and the province dumped it on the municipalities that could not afford it.
So nothing is done disaster hits and the province & feds are spending billions on relief that could have been spent on said infrastructure

In Ft McMurray all the damage from the fires could have been averted for proper fire barriers and cutting trees
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01-19-2022 , 01:48 PM
So the scandals of the week here in Canada

Jagmeet's wife gets a free chair

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jag...urse-1.6319704

I just do not see her doing anything wrong

Alberta Justice Minister calls chief of police

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-...nney-1.5743798

I think we can agree any politician that tries to do something like this and interfere in the justice system should resign or be removed
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01-21-2022 , 01:28 AM
Buddies in Bad Times Theatre's board resigns, citing need to prioritize ‘anti-oppressive frameworks’

https://www.thestar.com/entertainmen...rameworks.html

The board of a queer theater retiring shouldn't really matter to anyone, nor does it merit discussion. I just wanted to comment "What a bunch of drama queens".
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01-21-2022 , 05:50 PM
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada...inds-1.5748898

People just need to wait for the carbon tax rebates.
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01-21-2022 , 07:29 PM
Biggest issues were in Alberta and Saskatchewan according to your link. I guess you should blame the political parties in charge of those places with the biggest problems. Always fun how your posts never convey the message that is in your head when you post them.

All the best.
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01-23-2022 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Biggest issues were in Alberta and Saskatchewan according to your link. I guess you should blame the political parties in charge of those places with the biggest problems. Always fun how your posts never convey the message that is in your head when you post them.

All the best.
I typically ignore your posts because you think you are a clever troll but in reality you're an idiot.

The fact that 49% of people in Alberta think they are worse off than last year is what you think the biggest problem/issue from the study is pretty bizarre.

It's not that?

-Four-in-five Canadians (82%) say that the increase in cost of living has outpaced any income growth they have seen in their household.

-At least one-quarter in all provinces believe the next year will be worse for their bank accounts, but negativity is at its highest in Saskatchewan and Newfoundland, where two-in-five believe they will be worse off financially one year from now.

-For those who are Struggling, most say the second year of the pandemic has made things worse for them financially. Four-in-five (80%) say their household finances are worse off than they were a year ago

-This comes as three-in-five Canadians (57%) say it has been difficult to feed their household recently. This represents a substantial increase in the number of Canadians saying this in recent years, and as recently as October 2021

-Underscoring the pressure Canadians are facing are the data based around household income level. This phenomenon spares no group, regardless of their income level, though those with less income face the most serious challenges, as their limited earnings are being stretched further:
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01-24-2022 , 07:02 AM
It’s about everywhere in the world like that .
What can we (Canadians) do if no one else can do anything about in the world ?
You think they do nothing because they don’t care about it ?
What you suggesting ?
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01-24-2022 , 07:46 AM
Pretty sure he is suggesting that Liberals are bad, because that is what every one of his posts suggests, even though most times he makes no points that are logical to his goal.
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01-24-2022 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
It’s about everywhere in the world like that .
What can we (Canadians) do if no one else can do anything about in the world ?
You think they do nothing because they don’t care about it ?
What you suggesting ?
As much as you are correct here putting a vaccine mandate on truckers crossing the border when we are in the middle of a supply shortage is nuts.

Here is what has changed since we have the new Omicron variant
  • If your double vaccinated and 6 months has passed you have zero protection from catching it
  • Boosters at two weeks offer 70% dropping quickly as time passes
  • Store shelves are becoming barer
  • Cloth Masks do not work N95 & K97 provide some protection

I think the federal governments resources could be better utilized getting test kits and better masks distributed and telling the president of Canada Post that banning employees from wearing a N95 masks ends
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01-24-2022 , 03:09 PM
damnit, Alberta once again the worst in Canada. Remember when I showed a poll showing highest vaccine hesitancy in Alberta long ago and Shifty got super super mad and has just been wrong ever since?

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Alberta is lagging behind all other Canadian provinces and territories when it comes to getting children aged five to 11 vaccinated against COVID-19, publicly available data shows.

Accessibility is a roadblock, and so is vaccine hesitancy among parents and guardians.
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01-24-2022 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
damnit, Alberta once again the worst in Canada. Remember when I showed a poll showing highest vaccine hesitancy in Alberta long ago and Shifty got super super mad and has just been wrong ever since?
I looked online and it says Fully Vaccinated in Canada is 5% and one dose is 51% Maybe I am looking at the wrong stats

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...tion-coverage/

You do realize many parents have looked at the overall risk and have made a decision not to do it. There is a huge difference in the outcomes of a adult getting Covid than a child

A child in that age range the flu can be just as or more severe than Covid from some studies and the CDC stats. It also seems when we hear on the news about the odd child dying from Covid they have a few other risk factors
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01-24-2022 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I looked online and it says Fully Vaccinated in Canada is 5% and one dose is 51% Maybe I am looking at the wrong stats
Yes almost no kids are double vaxxed as it hasn't been available to 5-11 for long enough. The point is that Alberta is the worst province for single dose. And even that hasn't been out for that long so we expect rates to increase, particularly with the return to school.

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You do realize many parents have looked at the overall risk and have made a decision not to do it. There is a huge difference in the outcomes of a adult getting Covid than a child
Any parent (except a few fringe cases with medical exemptions) who looks at the "overall risk" and concludes that not vaccinating their kids is the best decision is a ****ing moron. Sadly there are more of those in Alberta than anywhere else. Shocker.
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01-24-2022 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
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Any parent (except a few fringe cases with medical exemptions) who looks at the "overall risk" and concludes that not vaccinating their kids is the best decision is a ****ing moron. Sadly there are more of those in Alberta than anywhere else. Shocker.
I don't think that is accurate to say and I think Chez would point out the UK health officials (and others worldwide) still have not moved to vaccinated all kids who are not at risk.

I am curious and open to new data if that has changed.

I also read that young people (I think it was teens) who got vaccinated shed the protections very rapidly and by month 3 or 4 they have no more protections than an unvax'd kid (edit for an article on that). So unless you plan to hit young people with a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th per year when they are at almost no risk from the virus to begin with that would be a tough sell IMO.

Add to that they show that kids are not the vector of spread in any community setting including schools, meaning kids vax'd or not you should not expect the adults who get it to be any safer, and the case really does become more questionable.
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01-24-2022 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Yes almost no kids are double vaxxed as it hasn't been available to 5-11 for long enough. The point is that Alberta is the worst province for single dose. And even that hasn't been out for that long so we expect rates to increase, particularly with the return to school.

Any parent (except a few fringe cases with medical exemptions) who looks at the "overall risk" and concludes that not vaccinating their kids is the best decision is a ****ing moron. Sadly there are more of those in Alberta than anywhere else. Shocker.
The only ****ing morons are the folks that voted for Justin 3 times
Imagine if you had some testing or proper masks. oops Justin screwed that up as well.
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01-24-2022 , 09:25 PM
I could be mistaken, but it appears that you may not like Trudeau.
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01-25-2022 , 12:32 AM
I'd suggest a drinking game where we take a shot every time Lozen drops a non-sequitur about how bad Trudeau is, but even with how frequently Lozen does that, he doesn't post enough for us to get more than a bit of a buzz. Maybe if we added Biden and Harris, we'd be getting somewhere.

But if Lozen wasn't such a leftie, then we'd be drunk all the time!
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