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01-27-2021 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I assume that Trump told a lot more little lies than other presidents. I assume that they all tell big lies.
Yup. All NBA players miss shots and turn the ball over so I always bring that up to draw shallow false equivalences between Lebron and the worst players in the league. I'm about as helpful in NBA discussions as you are in political ones.

But honestly, having to "assume" Trump lies more than other politicians like Biden or Bernie Sanders just makes it seem like you are unable to think for yourself and analyze basic data.
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01-27-2021 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Trump lied the most but Biden's off to a good start
List his lies so far then.
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01-27-2021 , 01:57 PM
John Kerry is killing it.
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01-27-2021 , 02:03 PM
As is McCarthy.
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01-27-2021 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
List his lies so far then.
Told the Georgia voters you will get a $2000 check right away. Now its a $1400 check and who knows when

On dealing with Covid I have a plan. The plan is nothing we can do the next 3 months does not sound like a plan
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01-27-2021 , 03:22 PM
The people who lied were the Republicans who supported stimmy when Trump asked for it and now don’t want to give Joe the dub.
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01-27-2021 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Told the Georgia voters you will get a $2000 check right away. Now its a $1400 check and who knows when

On dealing with Covid I have a plan. The plan is nothing we can do the next 3 months does not sound like a plan
The first one was a bit optimistic of Biden to promise considering Sinema and Manchin were never reliable votes.

Second one, you didn't pay attention at all to what was communicated.

1) He said two months. Not three. So now you're the one lying if we want to be nitty. Secondly, he never promised to get rid of covid in x-amount of time. He said he would listen to scientists and form a plan.
2) His administration is doing something about getting vaccines out (100m in 100 days). Mask mandates for travel pushed. Halting travel from certain countries.

You should perhaps pay attention to the press conferences instead of where ever you got that from.
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01-27-2021 , 03:53 PM
I think actual disturbing bits of the Biden presidency so far has been the protectionist stuff (at least the framing) and the China stuff during Psaki's press conference Monday didn't sound diplomatic.
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01-27-2021 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT
Psaki specifically called out China for stealing our IP and having unfair trade practices. That kind of stuff probably isn't the best way to introduce yourself to Winnie.
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01-27-2021 , 04:52 PM
How will Joe Biden come back from this

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01-27-2021 , 05:15 PM
Is that trump's desk next to the podium?
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01-27-2021 , 06:24 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...source=twitter

An interesting Op-ed in WaPo, that mirrors debate that has been ongoing on this forum for quite a while. Liberalism & Progressivism & Trumpism.
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01-27-2021 , 07:58 PM
Can't get around that paywall with my usual methods. Can someone summary quote the relevant points?
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01-27-2021 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Told the Georgia voters you will get a $2000 check right away. Now its a $1400 check and who knows when

On dealing with Covid I have a plan. The plan is nothing we can do the next 3 months does not sound like a plan
You realize they were campaigning on the $2000 checks, and congress was only able to pass $600 checks in the package agreed upon just before Christmas, right? And the $1400 is to make up for the fact that even the best negotiator in the world who also wanted 2k checks couldn't get it done?

Imagine if republicans cared about providing relief for working Americans instead of inciting insurrections.
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01-27-2021 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Can't get around that paywall with my usual methods. Can someone summary quote the relevant points?
  • trump is racist.
  • biden is working to undo all the random and obvious racist things trump has done.
  • e.g. the racist 1776 commission report has been removed from the whitehouse.gov site and the commission dissolved via executive order. https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/ar...t-1619-project

Spoiler:
p.s. also trump is racist
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01-27-2021 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
You realize they were campaigning on the $2000 checks, and congress was only able to pass $600 checks in the package agreed upon just before Christmas, right? And the $1400 is to make up for the fact that even the best negotiator in the world who also wanted 2k checks couldn't get it done?

Imagine if republicans cared about providing relief for working Americans instead of inciting insurrections.
No they told the voters of Georgia your getting $2000 checks if we get the senate. It was a lie
They never said
  • Its going to be $1400 because your already getting $600
  • They never said If the GOP votes for us
  • They never said you may have to wait months and were willing to negotiate

I still say Biden should have Mancy vote on a bill that only has $2000 checks and than send it to the Senate

Oh Yeah Trump is Evil
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01-27-2021 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No they told the voters of Georgia your getting $2000 checks if we get the senate. It was a lie
They never said
  • Its going to be $1400 because your already getting $600
  • They never said If the GOP votes for us
  • They never said you may have to wait months and were willing to negotiate

I still say Biden should have Mancy vote on a bill that only has $2000 checks and than send it to the Senate

Oh Yeah Trump is Evil

They haven’t even gotten the $600 yet. This isn’t the original first stimulus that was $1200 max.

The goal was to get $2k checks in the covid relief bill passed before Xmas. That didn’t happen so they are making good on their promise of $2k total stimulus checks to those who need it. You seem hung up on the fact it’s coming in 2 checks at different times as if that somehow is a lie or a broken promise.

If this is your best complaint / “lie” example then President Joe Biden
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01-27-2021 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
You realize they were campaigning on the $2000 checks, and congress was only able to pass $600 checks in the package agreed upon just before Christmas, right? And the $1400 is to make up for the fact that even the best negotiator in the world who also wanted 2k checks couldn't get it done?

Imagine if republicans cared about providing relief for working Americans instead of inciting insurrections.
they said 2k checks over and over. never once said 1400 checks. never once saw the number 1400.

they could pick any damn number they want. 2k is pathetic and 1400 is even worse.

regardless they wont do **** and not just bc of the Repubs.
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01-27-2021 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
They haven’t even gotten the $600 yet. This isn’t the original first stimulus that was $1200 max.

The goal was to get $2k checks in the covid relief bill passed before Xmas. That didn’t happen so they are making good on their promise of $2k total stimulus checks to those who need it. You seem hung up on the fact it’s coming in 2 checks at different times as if that somehow is a lie or a broken promise.

If this is your best complaint / “lie” example then President Joe Biden
they posted pictures of 2000 dollar checks after the 600 had already been given out.

oh and now they want to means test it.

they are liars and frauds and will do anything to avoid giving people anything beneficial. and it will cost them dearly in 2022. cant wait to watch Beau Biden forced to testify in front of a Repub Congress.
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01-28-2021 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
they posted pictures of 2000 dollar checks after the 600 had already been given out.


they will do anything to avoid giving people anything beneficial.
Pics of this?

Also lol to the second point. Yeah the dems who want higher minimum wages, better healthcare, and higher stimulus checks are the ones who will do anything to avoid giving people anything beneficial. President Joe Biden

Republicans sat around for 9 months doing nothing but downplaying the pandemic. Then another 2 months of claiming election fraud and at the last second getting $600 checks out the door. Gee thanks guys, it shows you really care...
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01-28-2021 , 12:42 AM
For Bobo, more NYT brainworms:



They are completely diseased, pushing this "but why can't you work with Congress" **** when Mitch McConnell is minority leader and we have the entire Obama presidency to know how that works (and many of his EOs are just undoing Trump EOs anyway)
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01-28-2021 , 12:44 AM
Knowing the last NYT opinion editor was a misogynistic scumbag makes so much sense.
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01-28-2021 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
For Bobo
You can just post them without addressing them to me; I already got my answer and thanked you for it.

But yes, I understand where you're coming from on this.

This message in particular could resonate with me - but not now. Ideally, more would happen through legislation and not EOs. 7 days in, though, and when Biden is, as you say, mostly undoing Trump EOs? Too soon. WAY too soon.
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01-28-2021 , 01:49 AM
Yeah, not trying to beat you over the head with them, just thought it was interesting how much ammo on this subject I've come across just in the short time since we started discussing it.
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